vignesh90 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 We dont need anymore signings for the future. Im sick of being fed the same horse-crap about the future. We already have Ryo Miyachi for the future, as a winger. Ill be more than happy if he can return right now or whenever he returns. Hes shown he'll be straight into the first team squad. Song is doing a good job, not a great one. I thought he was brilliant till myself and other teams noticed how weak his movement is and how slow he becomes versus sides that can get a good passing tempo going. You are right about Song. But I think its just matter of time before he lifts his game up and performs better than his own current standards. BTW, What do you think about Cesc? Will he be leaving for sure? You earlier mentioned, you're a part of certain Football Forums. What would that be? I'm looking to join good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Chelsea seriously bid for David Villa last week... £27m... Rejected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Villa's buy-out clause stands at a ridiculous £178m and that there was no point in any further negotiation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngerSmash Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 178 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 178 mil? Gulp. And lets not forget that he is not even the focal of the team. Sheer madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man In The Box Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 It basically means that he is not for sale ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad2689 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 De Gea undergoing medical at Manchester right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 It basically means that he is not for sale ! Correction it means they don't want him going to teams they don't want him going to. Jack the price up and let some bigger fish try and take him. He's aging and probably won't be of much use to their style of play soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 De Gea undergoing medical at Manchester right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vignesh90 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 A buy-out clause by definition is the minimum amount that must be paid to break a player’s contract. And its an agreement signed with the player, so it basically means that is the amount a player has to pay to buy out of his contract. But in most cases, since the club is interested in acquiring the services of the player, they end up paying it. I don't think it means anything else. Correction it means they don't want him going to teams they don't want him going to. Jack the price up and let some bigger fish try and take him. He's aging and probably won't be of much use to their style of play soon. It does not mean anything like that. Even if a club matches that fee, they can still reject the bid if they don't want to sell him. That is how it works, its got nothing to do with big or small fishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armaan Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 :wOOtjumpy: :wOOtjumpy: :wOOtjumpy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winny29 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 De Gea undergoing medical at Manchester right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) It does not mean anything like that. Even if a club matches that fee, they can still reject the bid if they don't want to sell him. That is how it works, its got nothing to do with big or small fishes. Are you telling me that if someone offered 45+ for D.Villa that the contract would still matter? Either he would have to have an incredibly stupid agent or the club doesn't see an off-loading opportunity to revisit the contract and let him go thereby gaining funds for new acquisitions. Edited June 27, 2011 by Mel81x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vignesh90 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Are you telling me that if someone offered 45+ for D.Villa that the contract would still matter? Either he would have to have an incredibly stupid agent or the club doesn't see an off-loading opportunity to revisit the contract and let him go thereby gaining funds for new acquisitions. No. The club has every right to over look that clause and consider it void if they want to. So if they want to sell him, he can be sold at any price they seem is fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 That's really all I was alluding to. If it wasn't clear then I apologize for the same. Every club does this and buy-out clauses probably become more pertinent when you just can't do with a player to the point where his exclusion from the team breaks down the style of play or the approach a club is working towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vignesh90 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 That's really all I was alluding to. If it wasn't clear then I apologize for the same. Every club does this and buy-out clauses probably become more pertinent when you just can't do with a player to the point where his exclusion from the team breaks down the style of play or the approach a club is working towards. David Villa, sort of puts Barca in a spot like that. He is a part of the deadly trio - Himself, Messi and Pedro. And Come on you don't sell a player who scored 18 goals out of 30 and odd games he played for you in a season. He just fits in perfectly in the squad. If there is any truth to Chelsea's bid, I would just call it audacious. I don't see Villa leaving at any cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) A buy-out clause by definition is the minimum amount that must be paid to break a player’s contract. And its an agreement signed with the player, so it basically means that is the amount a player has to pay to buy out of his contract. But in most cases, since the club is interested in acquiring the services of the player, they end up paying it. I don't think it means anything else. Wrong... A buy-out clause by definition is exactly what yu wrote... But, a club still has the option to sell a player at an amount that suits both the parties... And in most cases thats how the deal is done... These 'ridiculous' buy-out clauses are signed so that the parent club has a leverage while negotiations... Just like mel said, if club is willing to pay 45+million for a 29 yr old Villa, the deal will be done.. No questions asked! Edit: a player never buys himself out of a contract... The club who wants his signature does... It does not mean anything like that. Even if a club matches that fee, they can still reject the bid if they don't want to sell him. That is how it works, its got nothing to do with big or small fishes. Very wrong... If the value of the buy-out clause is matched then there's nothing much a club can do... Legally, the player has been bought out of his contract... Now, its upto the player whether he wants to sign a contract with that club who has approached him... If not, he can reject!! But the club has no say in it.. For a 1:1 example, Phil Jones to ManU!! 16.5m buy-out clause triggered by ManU.. Blackburn couldn't do sh*t even though Liverpool were willing to pay ~22m because Jones wanted to move to OT and not Anfield!! Edited June 27, 2011 by Madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 If there is any truth to Chelsea's bid, I would just call it audacious. I don't see Villa leaving at any cost. There was nothing audacious about it... It simply means Barca value him way more than that... Supposing Chelsea double the amount tomo, Villa will be a blue day after... Every player has a price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vignesh90 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Wrong... A buy-out clause by definition is exactly what yu wrote... But, a club still has the option to sell a player at an amount that suits both the parties... And in most cases thats how the deal is done... These 'ridiculous' buy-out clauses are signed so that the parent club has a leverage while negotiations... Just like mel said, if club is willing to pay 45+million for a 29 yr old Villa, the deal will be done.. No questions asked! Edit: a player never buys himself out of a contract... The club who wants his signature does... A player never DOES. But he CAN. I agree with everything else you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vignesh90 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Every player has a price... Typical Chelsea attitude. Sometimes, football isn't about money. Its about commitment, honoring your contract etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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