Engineer Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 We feared that this day would come... And now it's here. The day, when GTA modding was declared illegal. GTA modding had long and glorious history. Since GTA III, people have created lots of different mods: from simple texture replacements to impressive full conversions. And the modding always was a "gray zone" -- a battlefield between lawyers and PR... For almost ten years of OpenIV development, we had tried to play as nice as possible and even more: Strictly following of Civil Code of Russia (only reverse engineering for interoperability). Only clean-room reverse engineering. No distribution of original data and code. And absolutely no messing with Online... On June 5th, 2017, we had received an official Cease-and-Desist letter. It clearly says, that with OpenIV we "allow third parties to defeat security features of its software and modify that software in violation Take-Two's rights". Yes, this letter is illiterate both technically and grammatically (really, they don't even bothered with proof-reading the text). Yes, we can go to court and yet again prove that modding is fair use and our actions are legal. Yes, we could. But we decided not to. Going to court will take at least few months of our time and huge amount of efforts, and, at best, we'll get absolutely nothing. Spending time just to restore status quo is really unproductive, and all the money in the world can't compensate the loss of time. So, we decided to agree with their claims and we're stopping distribution of OpenIV. It was a hard decision, but when any modding activity has been declared illegal, we can't see any possibilities to continue this process, unless top management of Take-Two company makes an official statement about modding, which can be used in court. With many thanks for all modding community for all your fantastic creations, OpenIV team. So long, and thanks for all the fish. Source: Gtaforums,PCMasterRace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 No problem at all. Will continue to support Rockstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Already posted in games section in the GTA V topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Engineer wants everyone to boycott Rockstar which is next to impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Why such hate for bethesda , though? :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Playstationdude said: Why such hate for bethesda , though? :| Because he doesn't get regional pricing from Bethesda. And also their recent Creation Club which he doesn't understand but gotta jump the hate train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Lol. Best solution is to boycott the games then. Bethesda ain't gonna care about hateful tags on an indian forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 look at me, i tag random topics with Bethesda hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 16 hours ago, Joe Cool said: And also their recent Creation Club which he doesn't understand but gotta jump the hate train. The Creation Club is bull sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vip3r Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Why does company like Rockstar not receive the same bad rep companies like an EA or a UBI gets? Makes no sense that such blatant anti consumer practice is passed on without even an official statement or period that the mods interfered with the online part. Rockstar ain't no two bit developer they have considerable leverage with take 2. There bums need to be made more accountable. Infact EA had been more consumer friendly off late and UBI had been the company that has pioneered innovation with stuff like siege and for Honor. Say what you want about the execution but the intent to break away was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Rockstar released an official mods policy. Anyone posted it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Big Boss said: Rockstar released an official mods policy. Anyone posted it here? Sort of. Here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 http://www.pcgamer.com/gta-modding-tool-openiv-receives-an-update-signaling-development-will-continue/ And this is why Rockstar doesn't get bad rep. They used the leverage they have over Take Two. Rockstar Games believes in reasonable fan creativity, and, in particular, wants creators to showcase their passion for our games. After discussions with Take-Two, Take-Two has agreed that it generally will not take legal action against third-party projects involving Rockstar's PC games that are single-player, non-commercial, and respect the intellectual property (IP) rights of third parties. This does not apply to (i) multiplayer or online services; (ii) tools, files, libraries, or functions that could be used to impact multiplayer or online services, or (iii) use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywz87k/rockstar-games-talks-publisher-into-leaving-grand-theft-auto-v-modders-alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vip3r Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Big Boss said: http://www.pcgamer.com/gta-modding-tool-openiv-receives-an-update-signaling-development-will-continue/ And this is why Rockstar doesn't get bad rep. They used the leverage they have over Take Two. Rockstar Games believes in reasonable fan creativity, and, in particular, wants creators to showcase their passion for our games. After discussions with Take-Two, Take-Two has agreed that it generally will not take legal action against third-party projects involving Rockstar's PC games that are single-player, non-commercial, and respect the intellectual property (IP) rights of third parties. This does not apply to (i) multiplayer or online services; (ii) tools, files, libraries, or functions that could be used to impact multiplayer or online services, or (iii) use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywz87k/rockstar-games-talks-publisher-into-leaving-grand-theft-auto-v-modders-alone I also believe the internet trolls needs to be acknowledged for their stellar contribution that forced everyone's hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Yeah those negative reviews on Steam were useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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