sameuun Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 heheheheeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Valentino Rossi46 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 LoL no Bro I don't have any of the said degrees to my name, nor do I hold any relative importance for such degrees. I am a practical Idiot of sorts who likes to ask 'why this' and 'why that' a lot, and like to listen to other idiots like me. Dude... but I think you are giving so much stress to your brain....So thinking too much is 'injurious to health'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wise words !!! I better give it some rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner4life Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 @Saint - Really admire the way you think about topics like Politics, media & religion. You really are an interesting chap to have a discussion on these topics but forums like these don't seem to be the right place for such discussions. I also liked your interpretation of 'Mahadev', though I don't agree with everything you say because the thing you are talking about is a spiritual path with every individual has to take if he wants to, it is more of a personal thing & that's what religion should always have been but religion nowadays is nothing like that & it is more of a big level cult rather than a pathway to attain greater knowledge about yourself & your surroundings. But anyways it was nice reading your comments on it & even what you have said in the past on this thread about Anna Hazare campaign etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Defence budget to shrink: Antony http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Defence-budget-to-shrink-Antony/articleshow/18374919.cms here in Asia all countries are increasing their defence budget ....here these fools are reducing now...inspite of talking about how china is rapidly boosting its military and infrastrtucture in the border areas...slow modernisation of the army,navy airforce ...is gonna cost us big time some day...but who cares.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 India recently became the 5th only country in the world to have completed it's nuclear triad, the only 4 countries of having achieved this phenomenon are US, Russia, France & China, But where we beat China in this sphere is in the fact that our's is an indigeneously built nuclear triad whereas chinese is still dependant on support from the other 3 countries. China's 2 platforms for it's underwater nuclear capable missile has had a lot of problems while testing, with one of their missiles exploding on them before breaching the surface, whereas India conducted it's 14th succefull launch a week ago, China is also facing a lot of problems marrrying their missile with the platform, whereas India's nuclear powered Submarine INS Arihant is already doing short trials already, add to it the advantage of having built almost all of it indigeneously, there is no stopping R&D in future in this field as we are not going to be dependant on anyone for our research. It is a very big deal, and we might not beat countries like China in quantity, but having been able to built a short range nuclear capable underwater missile indigeneously is a big boost in security of this country. When Antony says defence budget is going to shrink, this should be read into as shrinkage of importing defence equipments like aircrafts etc until growth is back on track, this statement comes because of the compulsions imposed by the lowering growth of the country which was today projected to stay around 5% by CSO for the coming financial year (lowest in a decade), due to the drama that has been going on both inside and outside the parliament (constant adjournments and meaningless obstruction in working of the parliament), let alone anything else, an executive decision like FDI was pushed into a vote which ate away at over10 days working of the house, who is to be blamed for that ? with growth declining it is natural that priorities will shift until economy gets back on track !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 India recently became the 5th only country in the world to have completed it's nuclear triad, the only 4 countries of having achieved this phenomenon are US, Russia, France & China, But where we beat China in this sphere is in the fact that our's is an indigeneously built nuclear triad whereas chinese is still dependant on support from the other 3 countries. China's 2 platforms for it's underwater nuclear capable missile has had a lot of problems while testing, with one of their missiles exploding on them before breaching the surface, whereas India conducted it's 14th succefull launch a week ago, China is also facing a lot of problems marrrying their missile with the platform, whereas India's nuclear powered Submarine INS Arihant is already doing short trials already, add to it the advantage of having built almost all of it indigeneously, there is no stopping R&D in future in this field as we are not going to be dependant on anyone for our research. It is a very big deal, and we might not beat countries like China in quantity, but having been able to built a short range nuclear capable underwater missile indigeneously is a big boost in security of this country. When Antony says defence budget is going to shrink, this should be read into as shrinkage of importing defence equipments like aircrafts etc until growth is back on track, this statement comes because of the compulsions imposed by the lowering growth of the country which was today projected to stay around 5% by CSO for the coming financial year (lowest in a decade), due to the drama that has been going on both inside and outside the parliament (constant adjournments and meaningless obstruction in working of the parliament), let alone anything else, an executive decision like FDI was pushed into a vote which ate away at over10 days working of the house, who is to be blamed for that ? with growth declining it is natural that priorities will shift until economy gets back on track !!! Nuclear deterrent is last option..atleast as far as India's "no First use policy is concerened".While i know why economic growth concerns are reasons behind this...one cannot overlook the facts that things are way behind for india in other areas. All three -Army,Navy and Airforce are massively understaff right now and with more than 60% outdated conventional weapons and that too not meeting the requirements....things in asia is not to be taken lightly also. China is modernising it army like anything...not only cia reports say that...australia intelligence,japanese intelligence and british intelligence have confirmed that china is trying to catch up to America really fast and they are going aggressive also .Recently India's concern is raised further with chinese getting gwadar port in pakistan...they already have built superb infastructure at India side of border....India's infastructure connecting to border area with china is so bad that during winter India can only supply its army through air....while china will be able to support both via air and land....not only that the chinese air force has gone massive modernation with acquiring new stealth planes(though indegionusly built) technology is equivalent to America's f-117 stealth planes...which is still a big achievement..and india is still not able to complete its Intermediate Flight Trainer...R&D is in so sad state here that its funny...DRDO reports had said some time back...about 700 scientist had left DRDO within 5-10 years....China's R&D is much ahead of us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Well nuclear capability is mostly a deterrent and with India going ahead of China in developing it's triad, it does give India an edge for the time being, on a whole China is definitely way ahead of us, especially when Air Force is concerned, they have built up a range of indigineously built fighter planes, and India cannot match China in that regard, but WW2 made it clear that modern wars will be won by those who are strong under and above water, but once the economy gets back on track i am sure defence will gets its due share as well. In present day scenario this was a step that was required if CAD has to be controlled which has breached the levels of those in 1991, the import of defence equipment was the first of many casualities that were needed to keep the economy alive, any more dip in CAD would have serious implications for India in the future and even the reduced defence budget will become unviable if growth is compromised any further. It is a huge breather and an important strategic step that was the need of the hour, China cannot afford to derail it's economy and go into a war like situation, and Pakistan is already well engaged on it's western side. A good decision keeping in mind the holistic view of the country and neighbours and world situation as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 the tenth of money spent on defence and war by all countries last yr can be used to eradicate all of world's poverty. if clue less idiots who are jingoist in nature either by inherent stupidity or wear it as a facade have their say we would have half our gdp in building up war equipment while kids are left dying due to malnutrition. also, most defense contracts are offset contracts (read about it) wherein the seller agrees in principle to buy stuff from the buying country worth a certain percentage of the defence equipment sold. this buy-back of sort could be raw material or intermediate goods produced by the buyer country. its one way to keep balance of trade. the defence expenditure contraction could be because of some new such offset contracts drawn. more over, what we need is to spend money not just on buying finished goods but also to get firangi companies to have joint ventures with domestic defence making firms so that expertise can be transferred for future independence and cost effeciency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The GOAT Valentino Rossi46 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 the tenth of money spent on defence and war by all countries last yr can be used to eradicate all of world's poverty. if clue less idiots who are jingoist in nature either by inherent stupidity or wear it as a facade have their say we would have half our gdp in building up war equipment while kids are left dying due to malnutrition. also, most defense contracts are offset contracts (read about it) wherein the seller agrees in principle to buy stuff from the buying country worth a certain percentage of the defence equipment sold. this buy-back of sort could be raw material or intermediate goods produced by the buyer country. its one way to keep balance of trade. the defence expenditure contraction could be because of some new such offset contracts drawn. more over, what we need is to spend money not just on buying finished goods but also to get firangi companies to have joint ventures with domestic defence making firms so that expertise can be transferred for future independence and cost effeciency This made me lulz. Instead of asking government, how many TENTHS money you spend on poor people mate. What is your contribution to eradicate world's poverty? Don't take it serious mate, I am not here to start any flaming talk but just expressing my opinion. Like Saint said, the cuts are just to make the economy back on Track. But the funding for defence is one of the necessary thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 do you have any passing knowledge about public policy and development economics ? i am not asking government to just air drop the money filled in brown straw sacs with a $ sign on it ala hannah barbera cartoons. the money could be used for development projects. infrastructure building, RnD funds for pressing needs like alternative fuel, high yield and climate change resistant seeds, electricity generation, better wages for police- armchair intellectuals and internet slacktivists are quick to jump on the police for any mishandeling while conveniently forgetting that wages of a constable arecthe same as an unskilled worker in cities; better healthcare and associated awarness.. etc etc. these measures arent a transfer payment but legitimate investments that due to their long gestation period, only the state can take. not any individual. face it, there is a big lobby of weapons manufacturing and it wont allow the world to harmonise. the more we get paranoid and fearful, the more profit is there for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 It is easy to say that defence money can be used for better infrastructure,eradicating poverty ...blah blah blah....real world scenario is different.It is easy to point these economic benefits from cutting defence budget but you still cannot avoid it.... Tibet had no proper military defence and look what happen...chinese just walked in. Recently China confirmed its plan to make a dam on Brahmaputra river...afters years of continuosly denying it....people looking into rosy pictures may take some time and look at consequence if china diverts the water...millions of indians & bangladeshis will be effected....it not only helps in transport,irrigation it also helps keep flooding in check and its ecological benefits for wildlife and all is also massive..... What will you defend your basic things like water with if the situation arises .......alternative fuel ,climate change resistant seeds?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 After keeping India guessing about its overall designs on the waters of the Brahmaputra river, Beijing has now officially acknowledged its plans to build a series of dams on the middle reaches before the river enters Indian territory. China’s recently released energy development plan for 2011-15 speaks of constructing three more dams on this river at Dagu, Jiacha and Jiexu, in addition to the one already underway at Zangmu. Though Beijing maintains that these are hydropower projects that will not have any negative impact on downstream flows, this assurance has little credibility. The fear is that the damming of the Brahmaputra at strategic locations is part of a grandiose Chinese plan: to divert the waters of the Brahmaputra to its vast parched tracts in the north-east – including the sprawling Gobi desert – and also to the dying Yellow River, which remains dry for most part of the year. Should that happen – which seems quite likely, considering that China has the required resources, manpower and technical capability to do so – it will spell disaster for part of the eastern region of India that relies critically on the waters of the Brahmaputra. Worse still, these dams and the manipulation of natural water flows in a biodiversity-rich and earthquake- and landslide-prone area will have grave geological and environmental implications. The Brahmaputra originates near the Manasarovar lake in Tibet. It then flows eastwards, takes a spectacular U-turn to head towards Arunachal Pradesh, Assam and parts of West Bengal, and finally enters Bangladesh. The river accounts for nearly 30 per cent of India’s total water resources and about 40 per cent of the country’s hydroelectric potential. It is true that the bulk of the river’s total water stock is contributed by its tributaries located in India; but the estimated 71.4 billion cubic metres of water that it brings is indispensable for Arunachal Pradesh and Assam, where large parts would otherwise turn arid and semi-arid. The most shocking aspect of the Brahmaputra water issue is New Delhi’s lackadaisical handling. Though the evidence of the Chinese construction activity on the river has been building up, the government somehow chose to take it lightly. India’s reaction even now has been surprisingly mild; it has merely sought a fresh assurance from China that the interests of downstream states would not be harmed. The worry now is that the proposed hydel projects will further strengthen China’s “established user rights” over the waters of the Brahmaputra, especially since India has been far too slow when it comes to developing projects on its side of the river — New Delhi has been quick to hold up projects at the first sign of objections from non-governmental organisations. The problem also is that while India has signed water-sharing treaties with other neighbouring countries, there is no such pact with China. All that exists is an expert-level mechanism for sharing water data — which does not function properly, either. It is, therefore, in India’s own interest to press China for a comprehensive water-sharing treaty and also speed up the water-harnessing projects on its side of the border to establish its user rights over it. Otherwise, the availability of water in three other rivers originating from Tibet – the Mahakali, the Gandaki and the Kosi – might also come under threat. http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/three-more-dams-113020600059_1.html The intelligent people here take some time to read this....if you can spare some.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 China demands territorial concessions to bring it closer to India's sensitive Siliguri Corridor New Delhi: A tense game is being played out on Bhutan's border with China where Beijing is demanding territorial concessions that could bring it closer to India's sensitive Siliguri Corridor. Visiting Bhutanese Prime Minister Jigme Thinley is expected to brief Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday. Thinley will be discussing more than gross national happiness when he meets Manmohan. Sources told CNN-IBN that Bhutan is under mounting pressure from Beijing to settle a territorial issue on its terms. China rejects the present border with Bhutan - it says the border should actually run about eight kilometre deep inside Bhutan, curving all the way down to the Dolam plateau which is the India-China-Bhutan tri-junction. The claim reflects its insecurity over the Chumbi valley in Tibet. All troop and vehicle movements can be monitored by Indian troops stationed in Sikkim and all Chinese posts and logistic hubs are within range of Indian artillery. Video Photo Gallery CNN-IBN China's motivations are clearly driven by the need to shield its troop movements from Indian observation and also give strategic depth to the Chumbi valley. China is already reported to have laid some motorable tracks into its claim area in Bhutan. It has also claimed some areas in northern Bhutan. It is pushing Bhutan to establish diplomatic relations and wants to negotiate a trade agreement at the earliest. For India, any Chinese inroad into Bhutan heightens the risk to the Siliguri Corridor - the narrow highway bordering Bhutan which links up with the north eastern states. With Indian backing, Bhutan has been able to hold off the Chinese advances but as democracy takes hold in the dragon kingdom, India may have to contend with diverse players some of whom may see advantage in playing the China card. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/china-demands-territorial-concessions-to-bring-it-closer-to-indias-sensitive-siliguri-corridor/371529-3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroNeo Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 BMW Designs A 42-Wheel, 19-Engine Car To Fulfill One Child’s Fantasy http://jalopnik.com/5982018/bmw-designs-a-42+wheeled-19+engined-car-for-one-four+year-old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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playstation Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Funny Headline but still a shame for this country....everywhere now they calling Delhi as rape capital of the world......I know some ladies who cancelled their trip to delhi just because of this...there is something really wrong with society as a whole in this country... Save our girls, says China to India after rapehttp://www.indianexpress.com/news/save-our-girls-says-china-to-india-after-rape/1071502/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan Seth Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I agree. Due to the acts of some inhumans, the whole capital's name is being brought down to sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Tbh Delhi has consistently ranked as one of the worst places for women. The anger was already there. This just triggered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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