0ptimus Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Lol, no wonder why football never works out in India. Its going to take a long time and i dont think we have proper football coaches at youth level ... still remember my school days where our football coach was there when the PT class started to give the ball and came back to collect the ball at the end ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ptimus Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 How do you guys manage to watch it? Its so painfully slow to watch. just imagine you are watching/playing fooball where the system hangs often ... you will get used to it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooZoo Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 So true. Euro Qualifiers seem more interesting than Come on India, Lets slow footbaaaaaaallllll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ptimus Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I think in a few decades we can qualify for the world cup ... europeans are generally more athletic than us ... and their weather is suited for it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Its going to take a long time and i dont think we have proper football coaches at youth level ... still remember my school days where our football coach was there when the PT class started to give the ball and came back to collect the ball at the end ... I ment at hazards comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 ISL football quality is terrible. And Indians just pass it to opposite team. Their crosses are horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I do hate ISL but i enjoy I-league more not beccause of the hatred, just feel like i'm watching football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Its not that terrible,its mediocre mostly. But its a start,people are coming out to watch games,this may be the start of a new era. And stop being the pessimists,if you were expecting a La Liga or EPL ,in first ISL season,that was just blind expectations. I say this is a good start and more importantly motivation for young kids to get in to football,earn a decent living,in time we ll have a good national team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I do hate ISL but i enjoy I-league more not beccause of the hatred, just feel like i'm watching football. i LEAGUE isa failure on all levels, sponsorship,player development,salaries,it has failed on most accounts. We have to look past it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I won't say i-league is a total failure but NFL was and if you are talking about Pailian Arrows F.C then its was AIFF's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I agree with Razpor. Hopefully it will improve football in India. Goa vs Chennai match was fun though. DAT FREEKICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I agree with Razpor. Hopefully it will improve football in India. Goa vs Chennai match was fun though. DAT FREEKICK So, i-league should be dissolved and ISL should continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I-League is just the brand name for the top division of football. Maybe the brand is a failure and it will need rebranding in the future. If you're talking about replacing the entire league sytem with ISL then that is impossible. What will you do about the thousands of clubs in our league system? Indian football will just die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 ^ we are languishing at 158 in fifa rankings,getting beaten by bangladesh and maldives and afghanistan ,left and right on daily basis,football is already dead,its just waiting a cremation,ISL can bring much needed cash. Which can be used to nurture grassroot football,i am not saying ISL should replace I league . May be they both can co exist,but i dont see how it is sustainable,especially if we want to produce good quality clubs in a league system.Either I league needs to rebranded or ISL needs to be merged with the very best of the clubs from the i league,ofcourse all this is still years away and heavily depends on how ISL does in years to come.Its going to be a very long process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 All those small clubs in the lower divisions are what make football acessible to everyone. Small clubs are where most kids take their first steps in football. By replacing everything with ISL I assume you mean to get rid of them too? Imagine a kid who wants to play football. With no local club to play for, what exactly can he do? He could maybe ask for trials at an ISL club but the chances of him getting accepted are very slim. The ISL works with the top-down approach. Has this approach ever worked in the history of Indian governance? This approach won't help much at the grassroots. 8 teams will start 8 academies in the big cities and try to find good players from there. What about aspiring footballers in smaller cities and towns, say Beed or Aurangabad? The quality of football in the ISL is not very different from the i-League. After all it's the same people who play in the i-League with a couple of former stars way past their prime. People are watching it because of all the hype and the marketing. People would watch the i-League too if it had all the hype and marketing. And just raising the short-term hype among the people isn't going to do anything to improve football in reality. Public support has to last the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Your whole post is based on the assumption that i want ISL to stay a 8 team single division league.Where did i say that?? In any case its pretty much clear that I league has not helped football in india much at all,is there even an argument here??? Because if there is i don't think its worth arguing,as results are for everyone to see. We need something new,Isl might not be the solution,but it is an attention grabber,which is what foot ball needs today .With time ,infrastructure,coaches and finances,football might get somewhere in india.It ll take decades,Isl might add a little fuel to the process and if successful whats wrong in trying something new.?? The ISL works with the top-down approach. Has this approach ever worked in the history of Indian governance? as for this ,i think it seems to be working pretty well for now,with modi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Your whole post is based on the assumption that i want ISL to stay a 8 team single division league.Where did i say that?? Well that's what I assumed because thats what the ISL is. I guess you want to say "merge" and not "replace" i think it seems to be working pretty well for now,with modi. Nothing will work unless you ensure people's participation in everything. Someone sitting in Dilli won't know much about what the needs of every individual village and town are. Even the Collector is unlikely to know all this. They can't sit there and pass 1000 crore projects without knowing what the people need. The top-down approach was what we strictly followed in our highly centralised socialism from 1947 to 1991. We all know how it ended. Didn't Modi recently ask the MPs to adopt a village and oversee their development? He knows the need of development at the bottom by ensuring the people's participation, because that is the only way for sustainable development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Well that's what I assumed because thats what the ISL is. I guess you want to say "merge" and not "replace" yep Nothing will work unless you ensure people's participation in everything. Someone sitting in Dilli won't know much about what the needs of every individual village and town are. Even the Collector is unlikely to know all this. They can't sit there and pass 1000 crore projects without knowing what the people need. The top-down approach was what we strictly followed in our highly centralised socialism from 1947 to 1991. We all know how it ended. Didn't Modi recently ask the MPs to adopt a village and oversee their development? He knows the need of development at the bottom by ensuring the people's participation, because that is the only way for sustainable development. i am not going to argue against bottom up approach,as i myself believe thats the way to go too,but at the moment widespread corruption is making it difficult to be applied on ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 i am not going to argue against bottom up approach,as i myself believe thats the way to go too,but at the moment widespread corruption is making it difficult to be applied on ground. The ones at the top will obviously have a lot more power, so they can punish any corrupt people at the bottom. What they shouldn't be doing is interfering in everything. It's not like there's no corruption in the top-down approach. In the bottom-up it's a lot of people stealing a few lakhs each, as compared to one people stealing hundreds of crores at the top. The end result of either kind of corruption is the same though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajprdp Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Wenger knows http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20141010/-i-m-sure-indian-league-will-take-off- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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