mixke Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 XPS , HDMI , yes ... using it right now as i type Did you buy it in 2010? XPS should have it in its headphone jack. Can you please check? Really need to know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) She offered me 5% corporate discount for Dell XPS 15 i5 for 6 cell battery version. Can you please share on what basis corporate discount was offered? EDIT - Anyone got any idea about current price of Dell's 3-yr warranty (normal/complete cover)? And if I can bargain a bit on overall cost It turns out that I might have to buy a laptop when I'm least interested in buying one. Damn! Edited January 20, 2011 by mixke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunallkw Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Did you buy it in 2010? XPS should have it in its headphone jack. Can you please check? Really need to know this. got it in 2008 , but really not sure what exactly you are looking for. If it's HDMI yes it's there , you can pass audio aswell through it. If it's an analog 5.1 out you ask , no it's not there , just two ports for headphone out and one line in. If it's a Toslink out you ask , no laptop has that , buy a creative usb sound card for that. Edited January 20, 2011 by kunallkw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) got it in 2008 , but really not sure what exactly you are looking for. Alright, I'll Google it for you and will update. If it's HDMI yes it's there , you can pass audio aswell through it. If it's an analog 5.1 out you ask , no it's not there , just two ports for headphone out and one line in. If it's a Toslink out you ask , no laptop has that , buy a creative usb sound card for that. Headphone out is used for it if I'm not wrong. And it is used for sending digital 5.1 (passthrough) - same thing for which you're recommending Creative's USB Sound card (I need only for passthrough purpose). Difference being coaxial cable might be used in place of Toslink. MBP has it! And XPS should also have it IMO. Edited January 20, 2011 by mixke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWC Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Can you please share on what basis corporate discount was offered? EDIT - Anyone got any idea about current price of Dell's 3-yr warranty (normal/complete cover)? And if I can bargain a bit on overall cost It turns out that I might have to buy a laptop when I'm least interested in buying one. Damn! The 3 yr complete cover depends on the laptop .. anything from 8k onwards... Of course you can bargain.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunallkw Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Alright, I'll Google it for you and will update. Headphone out is used for it if I'm not wrong. And it is used for sending digital 5.1 (passthrough) - same thing for which you're recommending Creative's USB Sound card (I need only for passthrough purpose). Difference being coaxial cable might be used in place of Toslink. laptops with coaxial out is some news , post a link please how can 2 headphone outs sending the same signal be used for 5.1 ? if the sarcasm wasn't clear for an analog 5.1 3.5mm output, 3 ports are required while the XPS has only 2 . Do you google work first buddy MBP has it! And XPS should also have it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) laptops with coaxial out is some news , post a link please how can 2 headphone outs sending the same signal be used for 5.1 ? if the sarcasm wasn't clear for an analog 5.1 3.5mm output, 3 ports are required while the XPS has only 2 . Do you google work first buddy Okay it could be possible that I'm not very clear. But are you saying one cannot passthrough digital 5.1 signal from laptop through S/PDIF? Then sorry but you're wrong. I've had done enough work on digital 5.1 thing. It's just that either I'm not able to convey myself properly, which I feel is the case, or this is something completely new to you. Anyways, let me find some links. Then maybe someone with XPS can check The 3 yr complete cover depends on the laptop .. anything from 8k onwards... Of course you can bargain.. Thanks Edited January 21, 2011 by mixke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunallkw Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Okay it could be possible that I'm not very clear. But are you saying one cannot passthrough digital 5.1 signal from laptop through S/PDIF? Than sorry but you're wrong. I've had done enough work on digital 5.1 thing. It's just that either I'm not able to convey myself properly, which I feel is the case, or this is something completely new to you. Anyways, let me find some links. Then maybe someone with XPS can check Thanks take your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhar Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Can you please share on what basis corporate discount was offered? Corporate discount is given to employees of any company, just give them a scan copy of company employee card- ID Card issued by the company. And you are set. Give the ID card of some one known, preferably of the person on whose name the Invoice is to be made. DELL doesnt verify the identity of the person. Current Students of IIT , NIIT are also eligible for 5 % discount. Give them the copy of ID Card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Corporate discount is given to employees of any company, just give them a scan copy of company employee card- ID Card issued by the company. And you are set. Give the ID card of some one known, preferably of the person on whose name the Invoice is to be made. DELL doesnt verify the identity of the person. Current Students of IIT , NIIT are also eligible for 5 % discount. Give them the copy of ID Card. Thanks! Useful information. I could give them copy of my ID card and save some money. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 laptops with coaxial out is some news , post a link please how can 2 headphone outs sending the same signal be used for 5.1 ? if the sarcasm wasn't clear for an analog 5.1 3.5mm output, 3 ports are required while the XPS has only 2 . Do you google work first buddy take your time Only if you could have checked sound properties when I mentioned or tried a little to understand, you could have helped Anyways, yours is of 2008. Even if yours has it, don't know if the ones available now have it or not. And don't know why you laughed when I said MBP has it and XPS should have it IMO. I talked about only the concerned feature. Some links, hope it helps someone - http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/archive/b/windowsvista/archive/2008/03/04/using-s-pdif-to-send-audio-from-your-pc.aspx http://www.hifivision.com/surround-amplifiers-receivers/8200-surround-sound-setup-laptop.html#post155779 http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards-computer-audio/662806-3-5mm-spdif-output.html (Page 3 has some info) http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1033508956&postcount=12 http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/78442/431261.aspx#431261 http://forums.astrogaming.com/showpost.php?p=21517&postcount=16 http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=1557&seq=1&format=1#largeimage http://forum.notebookreview.com/6987857-post848.html http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/532969-xps-15-spdif-out-5-1-computer-speakers.html As I said earlier, it's normal 3.5mm jack having ability to passthrough signal when enabled. A particular cable is required for this. You will have to go through discussions to see what people are talking about. Sadly, there is no one thread which will give you all the possible information. So now if anyone with Inspiron/XPS could check if they have Digital Output for sound (not HDMI), it would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunallkw Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 i think you should google for Michael Dell's email address too , maybe he can help you with this , on another note did you bother going through the links your self ? and you claim to be a know it all about audio . Suit yourself buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfrag Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) laptops with coaxial out is some news , post a link please how can 2 headphone outs sending the same signal be used for 5.1 ? if the sarcasm wasn't clear for an analog 5.1 3.5mm output, 3 ports are required while the XPS has only 2 . Do you google work first buddy i think you should google for Michael Dell's email address too , maybe he can help you with this , on another note did you bother going through the links your self ? and you claim to be a know it all about audio . Suit yourself buddy If you don't know what he is talking about, don't presume he is talking crap. He's actually right, but not able to convey himself properly, and you're just being an a**hole. Nearly all laptops come with either 3 audio line out's, one for mic, one for headphone, and one digital SPDIF out. Like the ASUS one I have currently. OR They come with 2 ports, like the current Dell XPS laptops, one headphone out ALSO WITH SPDIF line out support, and one for mic. And many times, you can pass 5.1 or 7.1 audio, depending on the laptop digitally, through SPDIF. Many speaker systems also can receive 5.1 or 7.1 audio digitally through one cable at a time, instead of analog method using various cables. See that picture above? It's taken from the XPS 15 tech specs, where it's clearly written : headphone out with SPDIF support. http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15/pd?oc=dndogx4&model_id=xps-15&~ck= @mixke : Most laptops should have what you are asking for, just look through specs, it's almost always mentioned. But usually it's coax SPDIF, using the 3.5mm port, not TOSLINK, cause TOSLINK requires a different port design which would be inconvenient for laptop makers, since it isn't popularly used. Good hunting! Oh wait, actually the current XPS 15 looks like it has 3 ports. One separate for SPDIF. Either way, many laptops' headphone out also supports digital out, mostly SPDIF coax. Not TOSLINK, cause TOSLINK requires a different kind of port. Edited January 20, 2011 by Superfrag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Kani ★ Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 am I the only one with Acer here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 @Superfrag - Thanks dude! GLAD someone knows and understood. I checked the specs on Dell's site (India), but the sales guy I talked with said it's not available (I doubt it). And I was not able to reach Technical support team. Specs read "Audio jacks (headphone with SPDIF support (2), 1 Mic-in)". i think you should google for Michael Dell's email address too , maybe he can help you with this , on another note did you bother going through the links your self ? and you claim to be a know it all about audio . Suit yourself buddy Dude, you don't know a thing in the first place and you're not helping in any way by posting useless crap. Others are helping which I really appreciate. Heck, you even went ahead with sarcasm when you don't know a thing. If you can't help, don't post sh!t please As for "know it all" about audio, I never claimed it. Period. But yes, I have done enough work/searching (for myself) on Dolby Digital Live setup which I could get with devices that I have. am I the only one with Acer here ? Nopes, my friend has one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunallkw Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) apparently it does work with a mini toslink to toslink converter , but not all laptops have that and certainly not the old ones with HDMI because when a laptop in olden times had both HDMI and SPDIF , the SPDIF did not get recognised and only HDMI could be used for Digital audio. Having said that you'll any ways require a receiver to decode the digital signals , so why not just use a single HDMI cable to do it all in the first place. (my initial point) edit : the new laptops seem to be using the same analog port to pass digital signals , nice ! wow another revelation the mic port once jacked in can be treated as rear speaker out and the 3 ports becomes a 6 channel direct. i bet the manuals don't have sh*t about this feature. Edited January 21, 2011 by kunallkw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixke Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 apparently it does work with a mini toslink to toslink converter , but not all laptops have that and certainly not the old ones with HDMI because when a laptop in olden times had both HDMI and SPDIF , the SPDIF did not get recognised and only HDMI could be used for Digital audio. Now we are talking As per my understanding (through several forums where people were discussing these issues), you need to enable it from sound properties (or update/remove certain driver etc) and use proper cable. Otherwise, HDMI would be used. I'm not sure but I guess your XPS should have also have it. It's not a new thing. In sound properties, if you can see two digital output options then I guess you have it. I don't have it my Studio 15 and so I only see Digital Output (HDMI). The links which I posted earlier should give some idea about this, or just play around with laptop and test. Having said that you'll any ways require a receiver to decode the digital signals , so why not just use a single HDMI cable to do it all in the first place. (my initial point) Right! a receiver/amp is required for decoding 5.1 digital signal. S/PDIF will act as passthrough. And this is what I intend to use it for Using HDMI is neat way. Sadly, I cannot use it. I'll send the signal to amp which will process it, and send it wireless to headphones (I want to use only headphones in this setup). Reason for all the hassle, sound quality is awesomely awesome! edit : the new laptops seem to be using the same analog port to pass digital signals , nice ! wow another revelation the mic port once jacked in can be treated as rear speaker out and the 3 ports becomes a 6 channel direct. i bet the manuals don't have sh*t about this feature. Thanks, didn't know. For now, cannot think of any way to use it for me. Manuals ko chod yaar, even support guys here in India generally don't know much. Discussion forums help a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunallkw Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) here is what it looks like but , i don't think my xps (old) has that feature via 3.5mm ... although it says left panel jack so i might aswell check later. Edited January 21, 2011 by kunallkw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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