alphabeta Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Asura as referred in this game implies a demigod, at worst a fallen angel (as mentioned in the post above me). Whereas in the Hindu scheme of things they are pretty much evil etc. e.g. Raavan is termed as an Asura was supposed to be a learned Brahmin and one of the most revered priests of Vishnu. Raavan was a great devotee of Shiva, not Vishnu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgeek Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Raavan was a great devotee of Shiva, not Vishnu. oops... yes. I blame it on a busy office day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgeek Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 this ??... must be some stereotype video game thing ... just like how greek mythological creatures are used in various games ... and yea even in the trailer you can see the main character getting 3 faces and 6 arms in his Super Saiyan transformation thing... Happens in all Sci-Fi/Fantasy entertainment genre's Stargate (steeped in Egyptian Myth, Matrix et al In another 5-10 years or so, you will see Indian myths coming into the mainstream. I was talking to a large Japanese manga publisher who was seeking to make an entry into India. During his presentation he whipped out manga on Indian myths, Ramayan, Mahabharat. Legend of Hanuman. The works. All done in Japanese. Just a matter of time when the folks in JP get into the game purchasing and then it gets into the development cycle. MadGeek wins this thread. What did I win? In the market for Fallout3 GoTY <nudge> <nudge> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgeek Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 +1 All I wanted to say is that many Japanese games including Final Fantasy has had these creatures called Asura with 3 faces and six arms, which is not exactly Indian. No need to go into eastern mythology and stuff.. Interesting story on the faces... Ravan is said to have 10 faces because he is said to be a learned scholar in the 4 Vedas and 6 Upanishads. Evil (mentioned by someone above) is also an interesting idea. Relatively modern, Satan for e.g. is said to be a fallen angel and so are most villains of religious myth. If you consider the mirror position of Ahuras and Daevas in Zoarastrianism, it implies that it was probably an local political dispute that went to far (Hindu's defined as being east of the Sindhu as named by Persians etc.). However, evil is a rather extreme position, doesn't seem compatible. But who am I to pontificate. Bring it on. We will play it and plat it (well someone definitely will). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulovski Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 ^^ Lucifer is a fallen angel - as immortalized in Paradise Lost. That is a very romantic notion of hell, which is not exactly an opposite of heaven, but an exile for angels who went against the creator. They would finally end up as the jailers of sinners from earth. The good guys would inherit the earth. Heaven still remains the abode of gods. Satan is usually more evil and in charge of a punishing hell, not being a fallen angel but more of an anti-god. Sinners go there to be punished and the good guys go to hell. There's a thin line between the two pictures of hell - versions depend on the viewer being a romantic or not. That's my theory anyways. Going OT - the best story about Lucifer and his fall is by Neil Gaiman in a short story - not in the Sandman comics, but a short story in the anthology Smokes and Mirrors. The narration is very film noir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My weight is 102 kgs Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I like the description of Hell and Heaven in Dante's Divine Comedy as being mirror images of others.... And Lucifier (The Fallen One) being frozen in his own tears...Althogh I didn't play the game of the same theme ..But the books are epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My weight is 102 kgs Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Although the Divine Comedy doesn't tell about the Fall of Lucifer but most religious books have an avid description of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My weight is 102 kgs Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Although the Divine Comedy doesn't tell about the Fall of Lucifer but most religious books have an vivid description of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulovski Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Wasn't Divine Comedy written before Paradise Lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My weight is 102 kgs Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Wasn't Divine Comedy written before Paradise Lost? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Saw the game thread only today. The trailer was a bit too much like some DBZ trailer. Too much shouting and too few proper action sequence views. Me needz moar gameplay! indeed it is. Asura = devil in hindi/sanskrit. i am kinda surprised that no one else posted about it Like they were saying, the term is indeed of Sanskrit origin, but not exactly Indian origin. ^^ Hindi What languages do you speak? Apart from English and Arabic that is... (All I know is "Naam" "La" "Assalaam Alaikum" and "Shukran" ) Asura is also in Japanese, and it is a bit different from the Indian one. The "Asura" from the game's name is definitely from the Buddhist one. So the Indian mythology is much less relevant here. Like Noctis and Madgeek say, it is Buddhist here. Demi-gods in the Buddhist canon, written in Pali, are "asuras" too. They are members of the 2nd rung, never elevated to a godly status, forever in an uphill struggle against the Gods. Not quite outright evil either. But then it is indirectly Indian cos Buddhism originated here with Gauthama Buddha first being a Kshatriya before he gained enlightenment and preached his own religion. Coming back to the actual game, hope it doesn't turn out to be crap like DBZ or something. The concept seems nice. And what's with everyone in it looking like the Thing from Fantastic Four? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted September 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 And what's with everyone in it looking like the Thing from Fantastic Four? LOL!! ... yea it looks like everyones made of rock lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 heavy mythologial stuff here naisse @ madgeek During his presentation he whipped out manga on Indian myths, Ramayan, Mahabharat. Legend of Hanuman. The works. All done in Japanese. Just a matter of time when the folks in JP get into the game purchasing and then it gets into the development cycle. oh how much do i want this to happen. do it japan !! a properly done mahabharata anime (and later GN and game) would own all. also you seem a nice learned person about indian (and world) mythology madgeek. awesome !! we should have a nice discussion about it sometime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgeek Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 heavy mythologial stuff here naisse @ madgeek oh how much do i want this to happen. do it japan !! a properly done mahabharata anime (and later GN and game) would own all. also you seem a nice learned person about indian (and world) mythology madgeek. awesome !! we should have a nice discussion about it sometime Danke. I wouldn't say learned. Just well read. (often referred to as a know it all). The Manga is already out. and If I remember correctly, Ramayana anime has already been done by some Japanese studio nearly a decade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Enough Mythelogical discussion, time for the Combat Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHWTLsjCE5A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Well I think its quite decent. We didn't have a decent beat'em up since long time. Too many hack and slash and shooter titles in TPS genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Pranay Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nice Video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 That video is hysterical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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