Noctis Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 the amount of frustration here is colossal It sure is. Even if Tata's routing sucks, I don't see why the lag should be worse than what I got with US players while playing DoA4 on the xbl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 It sure is. Even if Tata's routing sucks, I don't see why the lag should be worse than what I got with US players while playing DoA4 on the xbl. it really depends on your ... well Luck still unable to figure out a pattern for the damn random behavior, except that I will NEVER connect with Mel that stays affirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion991 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 can you please elaborate > There is a specific port for different activities. Like streaming videos, online gaming and so on. Port Forwarding basically ensures the right data is sent to the right port. Connections like Airtel usually provide a dynamic IP, which means it keeps on changing. This also means every time the IP changes, the ports also change. Similarly the ps3 also has different ports assigned to different things. So if you don't configure them properly, gaming data will end up being sent from a port not assigned for gaming data. Sorry if this is all confusing. But all you have to do is open up all the ports on your ps3. The process is called DMZ (DeMilitarized Zone). Heres the guide I used: And a more in-depth one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-c24SKRTfQ But be careful while doing this. I messed up my connection and had to get new DNS servers from Airtel. Lemme know if you need any help. I just might create a step-by-step tutorial cuz some other people I know wanna do it too. and your game is really well suited for Ken, really aggressive, though do not jump in so much, you will eat a lot of anti air against good players although I am not much of a player myself, still I would anti air you with Balrog whole day if there was no lag Yeah I know. Some of the jump-ins are involuntary <.< I have a long way to go. Need more practice. And an Arcade Stick. it really depends on your ... well Luck still unable to figure out a pattern for the damn random behavior, except that I will NEVER connect with Mel that stays affirm It just depends on your and your opponents network connection. Before opening up my ports, I could never ever connect with you. I always got the 'Unable to join' message. But not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I don't think the problem with us is port forwarding. Unless you are getting NAT 3 then your ports are fine. And for DNS you can use google or open dns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I don't think the problem with us is port forwarding. Unless you are getting NAT 3 then your ports are fine. And for DNS you can use google or open dns. exactly my thoughts Before opening up my ports, I could never ever connect with you. I always got the 'Unable to join' message. But not anymore. thanks for the enlightening information (I have been an IT Developer for 6 years BTW ) although I think the DMZ is fine with my PS3, I would still check to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilryu111 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 need help u guys.wen i type my IP address in the address bar it just shows a blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Routing is very important...Atleast afaik in this game if you get a ping of anything above 150ms its Unplayable/wont be any bars on the connection.... but in other games it would still be playable.... I get around 120-110ms with the Japanese players (All of them irrespective of connection proly coz well its fukin JAPAN!) and i get orange... With Singapore players i get around 60-50ms with people having good connections (yellow or green bar) with other SG players its more than 100 or even 150 i get either orange or no bar with them(Again what Connection you have is important) In India i get good connection with Avkash/Laxlight/Orion and even Mel(atleast the last time i fought him) ..and i always get yellow sometimes green...Theres a guy in chennai who uses BSNL and i get 0 bar.... Opening ports/DMZ all probably help with joining games..but once you join them the connection is still the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Also woudnt FPS matter when it comes to lag??..... I mean 150ms might be ok on 30FPS games but 60FPS games would be affected a lot more.... Edit : This is the input lag found in various games...when played offline this is the lag between when you actually press the button the action is performed on screen... Halo 3 100ms-150ms Mirror's Edge 133ms Street Fighter IV 67ms Ridge Racer 7 - 66.7ms PS3 XMB - 50ms • Most 60 Frames Per Second (FPS) games have a 66.67ms latency - Ridge Racer 7, for example. • 30 FPS games have a minimum potential lag of 100ms, but many exceed this. Again to summarize here, a 67ms input delay is typically the best input delay a game running at 60 FPS achieves. But when frame rates drop below this, the input latency can get worse. So it looks like Capcom did a very good job of getting optimizing controller input latency for Street Fighter 4 Now when you look at this the input lag in Halo and ME might seem horrid ,But its not...theses games run at 30fps compare that to games that runs at 60fps like SF4 ...so i guess internet lag of 150ms affects 60fps games alot more than a 30fps game...which is why Shooters might seem better given the same amount of internet lag... I am not sure about DOA4 ,perhaps that game is 30fps too??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 need help u guys.wen i type my IP address in the address bar it just shows a blank can you please elaborate as to what the problem exactly is and the machine which you are facing the problem on Street Fighter IV 67ms 67 ms lag is unbelievable one frame for 60 fps is like 16.7 ms, so it is like 4 frames of pure lag -- will make it very difficult to hit a one frame links but now I know how YOU hit them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Well outside of my secret method ... Links arent a problem humans need around 180ms(Around 15F ?) to react to something and that too only if its something your expecting.... We normally just Muscle memory links so no matter what the conditions are even if the lag is 10000ms as long as the lag is uniform you will still get the link... But anyway you cant notice lag which is around 5f or even in the case of Halo 3 although it varies upto 160ms its still not noticeable... Its a known fact that the xbox version has around 5f of input lag while the ps3 version has close to 7f (This itself should be more than enough to make XBL the better choice) .... We get around 10f of lag(12f in the ps3s case) in a green bar connection...its somewhat ok here but you will start missing certain anti-airs that require strict timing (Like Guys C.MP ) its active only for 2f so with lag it would be hard...this lag is definitely noticeable but adaptable....not recommended for high level play.... Now when you go to yellow bar or above the game changes...certain moves which could be reacted to in an offline game become extremely hard to react to... Now in a 30fps game for a green bar connection the lag is gonna be 5f ...unlike the 10f which 60fps game would have...so the game is playable almost upto 300ms and for a 60fps game ud need 150ms to play the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Here is a perfect example about what i was talking about human reaction time @2:54 ... Fei long has no health and Dudley tried to chip him with EX MGB(15f startup)....dudley did a random EX MGB and Fei was able to react to it with DP @3:49 ... Same situation... but over here Dudley did a LP MGB (same thing but doesnt go full screen) to bait... Fei took the bait and did a DP... It takes around 15f to react to something ONLY if you are expecting it...if anything else happens you are bound to react to that the same way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 reaching home in about half an hour, anybody up for games ? and Shado, I think sidMp316 plays really good, what do you think ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 He pwned you with hakan eh ? .... Yea hes good , but he relies on a lot of unsafe tricks (Hakan slide ..etc) and lacks footsies.. Am going to my friends place for an offline session... We might troll for a while online though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxlight Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Its a known fact that the xbox version has around 5f of input lag while the ps3 version has close to 7f (This itself should be more than enough to make XBL the better choice) .... the ps3 version runs 7frames slower than the 360 version. if it had friggin 7 frames of input lag i wont be playing it lol. anyways the ae version is 10 frames slower than the 360 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 How do you test your ping for console games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilryu111 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 How do you test your ping for console games? see this oni akumas ultra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeMyrL1CYDU&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxlight Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 see this oni akumas ultra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeMyrL1CYDU&feature=related EFFING LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 see this oni akumas ultra ok, seeing it, but Im still not able to find the ping. -__- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 OMFG... ROFL !!!! @noctis .. This isnt the ping for SSF4 am just saying the ping i get in games in general... since the number would still be the same right?...IIRC I used GGPO...and the results are very similar to SSF4.. Edit : I still cant stop ROFLing that sh*t is just tooooo hilarious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxlight Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 lmao thats the funniest shii ive seen on a message board hahahahaaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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