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ok iv gotta order my new pc sometime this week .... latest friday-saturday.... and this is the config i think im gonna go for ....
need suggestions on whether there is anything better i can add to it ....

intel quad core processor ,intel mobo
4gb ddr2 ram
1tb hdd (500x2)
19" lcd display
sata dvd writer
nvidia gfx card (need suggestions)
blueray player/hd-dvd player (if its cost effective)
will use my old mx518 mouse , razer mousepad , and the usual logitech wireless keyboard....

also i need to know .... is there anything extra i need to buy if i wanna conenct my onkyo hts to the pc ??


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any suggestions welcome ....

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Edited by HundredProofSam, 20 November 2013 - 07:52 PM.

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Go for a Quad core Q6600, they're as cheaper than the E6850 procs and faster.
Genuine intel mobos are sweet. Rock solid stability. If you want to overclock, Gigabyte and Asus are quite good. Ditto with Abit.
For a 19" monitor i highly recommend a 19" Samsung 920NW. It's a sweet monitor, wide screen and is fully HDCP compatible. Avoid Viewsonic like the plague, tech2's run a story on how f**ked up the RMA service is and how monitors are dying like Indian batsmen on a grassy wicket.
You can get Corsair RAM for cheap if you scrounge around.
Lite-on DVD writers are godlike.
Stick with Seagate HDDs, the warranty is good and service is stellar. Plus the HDD performance is sweet.

To be honest, i wouldn't bother with a blu-ray/HD-DVD drive at this point of time. Its still too early to tell who will win. Besides DVD is still king in this country.

As for a video card, if you can swing an 8800GTS 320MB or 8800GTS 640MB that would be the icing on the cake. Either would do with a 19" widescreen as the max res. is 1440x900.

i can speak for the brands i've suggested as i've just helped my girlfriend and aunt build new systems over the past month.

If you need a name of a good seller, let me know, i can hook you up with the details via PM.

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^^ gimme some details on the seller .... and the lite-on drive is sata rite??
cuz i was thinking on getting the pioneer sata one (cuz its reccomended to burn games :D )
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Quad cores are not good for gaming, atleast right now. Most games don't make proper use of additional 2 cores. E6850 is the ultimate for games, unless you want to do video decoding, Photoshop etc more than gaming. Also, 8800GTS is good card but I would say go for GTX, its more expensive but much ahead of GTS in performance. Btw both cards cost 25/30k+ in India. Why don't you tell your uncle to send it from US. E6850/8800GTX is the killer combo for games and should get you through safely for another couple of years, atleast until 45nm becomes mainstream.
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^^ i was planning on saving on the gfx card ....

and the above config i was getting in bout 60-70k ....and if i add a 25k card its off-limits for me
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E6850 is the best bet for now rather than the quad core. Get a 8800GTS minimum for any serious gaming. Make sure the 19 inch LCD is wide screen and leave the HD-DVD/Blu Ray drive for now. You can always add it later if you want.
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^^ Told ya. If you are limited on budget, then 8600GTS is your best bet, costs about 12/13k, 8800GTS is about 22k I think.

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^ thts a huge price difference .... i think il go for tht ver the later more exp one .... (and pc gaming isnt tht big an issue for mew as i decided last year to totally stop pc gaming as the exp were too high in keeping on upgrading the gfx card .... hence il rely on my consoles for gaming .... im just impatient thts why all i want is a super fast pc ....

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^ thts a huge price difference .... i think il go for tht ver the later more exp one ....


Add another 10k extra for GTX and God knows how much for Ultra. Welcome to PC gaming :D

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Here you go

E6750-8k (Overclock to E6850 speed easy. Even more if you want)
XFX 650i Ultra/Abit IP35-E-5-6k
2x1GB Corsair Value RAM-4k (4GB if you are going for Vista)
XFX 8800GTS 320 MB-17-18k
DellE198WFP-11-12k? (Not sure about availability)
or
Viewsonic VG1930WM-10.5k
Sony AWG170S-1.5k
2 X 500GB Wester Digital SATA2-11k

Should be around 65k I think

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@ CC my heart lies with pc gaming .... spent god noz how much on it .... but have decided to stop .... hence the gfx card doesnt matter .... mainly i play cs on the pc .... and nowadays rarely .... and tht runs on max settings on a geforce 5200 also .... so i dont really care bout the gfx card.... "D

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Here you go

E6750-8k (Overclock to E6850 speed easy. Even more if you want)
XFX 650i Ultra/Abit IP35-E-5-6k
2x1GB Corsair Value RAM-4k (4GB if you are going for Vista)
XFX 8800GTS 320 MB-17-18k
DellE198WFP-11-12k? (Not sure about availability)
or
Viewsonic VG1930WM-10.5k
Sony AWG170S-1.5k
2 X 500GB Wester Digital SATA2-11k

Should be around 65k I think


Great, thanks for the heads up. Looks like prices have changed a lot in a month's time.

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Here you go

E6750-8k (Overclock to E6850 speed easy. Even more if you want)
XFX 650i Ultra/Abit IP35-E-5-6k
2x1GB Corsair Value RAM-4k (4GB if you are going for Vista)
XFX 8800GTS 320 MB-17-18k
DellE198WFP-11-12k? (Not sure about availability)
or
Viewsonic VG1930WM-10.5k
Sony AWG170S-1.5k
2 X 500GB Wester Digital SATA2-11k

Should be around 65k I think



thnxz buddy.... cud u post price of a sata pioneer dvd writer?

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Pretty sure it's around the same range.

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Go for a 22" Screen rather than 19" . LG has these sweet new panels which have 5000:1 contrast ratio and 4ms response time i think. They look pretty sexy. If you are still planning to go with a 19" screen, then get a Samsung. I am currently using a 19" Samsung monitor which is amazing. Performance is brilliant, response time is pretty fast too. Its HDCP Compliant and has DVI too.

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Go for a 22" Screen rather than 19" . LG has these sweet new panels which have 5000:1 contrast ratio and 4ms response time i think. They look pretty sexy. If you are still planning to go with a 19" screen, then get a Samsung. I am currently using a 19" Samsung monitor which is amazing. Performance is brilliant, response time is pretty fast too. Its HDCP Compliant and has DVI too.



im not going for the 22" for the simple reason tht my pc is gonna be right next to my tv which is anyways 40" and its not necessary and will be a bit too much .... (was gonna go for a 17" lcd but the diff in price between 17 and 19 is like 1-1.5k

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I'll tell you what I've done on the graphics card front. In May this year, I assembled a Core2Duo based PC with a SLi capable motherboard (Asus) and bought a 8600GTS for approx 9K from Malaysia. (This was the top of the line MSI 8600GTS Overclock edition that came with Company of Heroes free :jumpy: ). I am now planning to buy another MSi 8600 GTS in December and SLi my rig. The performance would be quite staggering without the blow to my bank balance that the 8800 series would have been, plus I get to stagger the expenditure thanks to SLi.

Oh and if you want to connect the sound output to a HT receiver, then you should use the optical out port on the sound card. Most new MoBos have high quality onboard sound processors so they should have an optical out somewhere below the PS/2 ports.

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^^intresting .... but i dont care bout gfx card .... im happy with a mediocre one .... atm thts one of my last priorities ....
biggest issue for me will be to find the pioneer sata drive i want here in india .... :D

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Yes you would get the Pioneer drive. i'd suggest against the E6850/E6750 as if you're someone who upgrades 3 to 4 years, quad core is more beneficial.

But if you have to make a choice between an asskicking processor and a better video card, i'd go with a better video card....so if you've to make a trade off between getting a core 2 duo and an 8800GTS or a quad core and an 8600GTS, i'd go with the c2d+8800gts any day.

i've no idea about the availability of LG monitors, i hear the quality is just about okay. Dell is sweet but availability is a bitch. Avoid Viewsonic for now.

And 320MB on the 8800GTS should be enough as your max res. on a widescreen 19" is 1440x900.

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^^ i upgrade every 1yr and a half or so ... but this time il be upgrading after 2-2.5 yrs minimum ....

so i think il go for the 8600 with the quad core and 4gb ram

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Let us know how it goes. Btw what version of CS do you play that runs maxed on an FX5200:S? 1.3 Beta?

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im currently using a 6200 but had a 5200 in the past .... i play cs 1.6 ....

btw im just on those sites getting est prices ... but the pioneer drive aint there model no . 212....

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with the feedback from you'll iv come up with this rig.... temme wat ul think bout it ....

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 -
Specs: 2.4GHz, 8MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, iAMT2, LaGrande, 65nm
Rs. 10k

mobo - 8k (wich model??)

MSI GeForce NX8600GTS-OC -
Specs: 256MB GDDR3, 700MHz/2.1GHz, 128-Bit, DX10, OpenGL v2,
DVI/HDTV/TV-Out, HDCP, SLi Ready
Rs.12k

Kingston ValueRAM 1GB PC2-5300 –
Size: 1GB DDR2 667MHz
Latency: 5-5-5-18 (CAS,tRCD,tRP,tRAS)
Function: Unbuffered
Operating Voltage: 1.8v
Warranty: Lifetime
Rs.8k (for 4gb)

Seagate Barracuda ST3750640AS-RK 750GB -
Specs: 750GB, 7,200rpm, 16MB Buffer, SATA 300MBps Interface
Rs.13k

ntec “EarthWatts” EA380W -
Specs:
+3.3V: 20AAntec “EarthWatts” EA380W
+5V: 20A
+12V1: 17A
+12V2: 17A
-12V: 0.8A
+5VSB: 2.5A
20/24Pin ATX12v
Rs.3.9k

Antec Nine Hundred - “Gaming Chassis” -
Drive Bays:
External 3 x 5.25″; Internal 6 x 3.5″ for HDD, or
External 6 x 5.25″; Internal 3x 3.5″ for HDD, or
External 9 x 5.25″
- 1 top 200mm TriCool fan with 3-speed switch control
- 1 rear 120mm TriCool fan with 3-speed switch control
- 2 front 120mm special black TriCool blue LED fans with 3-speed switch control to cool HDDs
- 1 side (optional) 120mm fan to cool graphic cards
- 1 middle (optional) 120mm fan to cool CPU or graphic cards
Front USB 2.0 x 2, FireWire and Audio In/Out Ports
With PSU: No
ATX
Rs.7.8k

Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 CMSS
Specs: 5.1ch, CMSS 3D, EAX HD Audio, 96kHz/16-Bit
Connectors: Line Level Out (Front/Rear/Center/Subwoofer),
Line-in / Mic-in
Aux-In
Rs.1,050/-

samsung/viewsonic monitor
10k

pioneer 212 - sata dvd writer
3k max

total 75k approx....


P.S - +1 h3lios :D

Edited by arjun, 10 October 2007 - 01:51 AM.


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You'd have to scout around a few stores to check if they can arrange a piece for you. That's what i had to do for my Pioneer DVR-108A. Ended up getting an OEM piece.

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worst case scenario i cud order one online .... but i wanna avoid doing tht .... but on the other hand i myte have to as i want tht burner at any cost ....

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Sweet rig...i like. Now only if i had your proc+mobo+ram and my video card *sigh*.

Well dreaming aside, it looks to be a solid machine, the motherboard i'd suggest is the Intel DG33FB .

i was quoted a price of 10.5K on the HDD though and i think you may be able to get an XFX 8600GTS for a shade cheaper. Love the choice of casing. Got an Antec Super LanBoy at the moment. Antec makes godlike stuff. You may want to get a higher spec'd power supply unit though. Perhaps something in the 420-450W range.

If you don't mind me asking, why are you after that specific dvd writer model alone?

Edited by h3lios, 10 October 2007 - 03:55 AM.

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Crysis specs released

Read here : http://www.IndianVid...p...ost&p=26109

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mobo - 8k (wich model??)


I would recommend a motherboard based on the nVidia nForce 680i SLi or 650i SLi. Best performance and feature set for C2D processors. There are several choices available from ASUS, MSI and XFX.

Antec “EarthWatts” EA380W -
Specs:
+3.3V: 20AAntec “EarthWatts” EA380W
+5V: 20A
+12V1: 17A
+12V2: 17A
-12V: 0.8A
+5VSB: 2.5A
20/24Pin ATX12v
Rs.3.9k


I wouldn't recommend such a low specced PSU. Go for a 800W or higher PSU which will allow you to connect a second graphics card, additional HDDs and optical drives, without straining the power supply to the MoBo.


Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 CMSS
Specs: 5.1ch, CMSS 3D, EAX HD Audio, 96kHz/16-Bit
Connectors: Line Level Out (Front/Rear/Center/Subwoofer),
Line-in / Mic-in
Aux-In
Rs.1,050/-


At the minimum, you should go for the Creative Audigy 4 ZX, but preferably one of the Creative X-Fi sound cards. The chips on these babies process Directsound in hardware, taking the load of your CPU. The Audigy 4 ZX should run you approx 2-2.5K.

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thnxz for input making changes....

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Sweet rig...i like. Now only if i had your proc+mobo+ram and my video card *sigh*.

Well dreaming aside, it looks to be a solid machine, the motherboard i'd suggest is the Intel DG33FB .

i was quoted a price of 10.5K on the HDD though and i think you may be able to get an XFX 8600GTS for a shade cheaper. Love the choice of casing. Got an Antec Super LanBoy at the moment. Antec makes godlike stuff. You may want to get a higher spec'd power supply unit though. Perhaps something in the 420-450W range.

If you don't mind me asking, why are you after that specific dvd writer model alone?



these are rough prices i got of tht priceguru.com site .... and the prices are out dated as the last update on tht site was in august .... so these prices are upper limits ....

i want tht model dvd writer so tht i can successfully burn games .... :)




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