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[Stevie G fan]

for how much can i get a liquid cooled cabinet.

[~--YeSH--~]

for how much can i get a liquid cooled cabinet.

so ur building an extreme pc and will overclock morethan 30%....?? I guess u wont atleast from the prev configs u put around....

just stop jumping over every newthing u find ..... u seem more ridiculous than i am...

[AtheK]

^^

Srevie, please keep your questions to the PC ask the expert thread, if no one answers there there is a good possibilty no one will answer here too.

Lets understand why this thread is there.

@yesh -- ya dude got held up, why don't you go ahead and put a config here lets see what you come up with.

[~--YeSH--~]

The least expensive gaming pc u can ever build... ( rite now) @ around 25k

Processor:: Intel E7400 2.8 GHz 3mb cache Rs 5675
Motherboard:: Asus P5KPL AM IN microATX G31 Rs 2265
Ram:: 2gb ddr2 800MHz Rs 1200
PSU:: corsair 450w vx450 Rs 4000
Dvd burner + HDD Rs3000 (pick the ones tht fit this budget -- u can do it)
GPU :: sapphire HD 4670 1gb Rs 5550 or palit 9800gt 1gb Rs 7750
case:: A good mini ATX case :: CM elite 330 Rs 2100( 330 is a mid ATX though --- isn't it?)

If u take 9800gt Its 26k total
If u take 4670 Its 24k total

A 17" LCD will be around 5k ( 17" 'coz ur GPU freaks @higher res)
Altec lansing 2.1 entry level speakers around 1k
Logitech G1 gaming desktop @1.5k

so totals to 33.5k

I've seen 4670 give playable framerates in crysis gamer res(on youtube) but 9800gt gives waaaay better performance for the extra 2k..

cons of the system::
-mobo supports 4gb max ram
-cpu bottlenecks if u upgrade GPU later
-there is NO FUTURE though will run great for 2yrs minimum
-micro ATX hinders expandability

pros of the system::
-the psu is pretty good one
-can spend remaining money to buy games

Suggested upgrades::
-add another 2gb ram down the road (when u just cant do with 2gb)
-CPU upgrade :: go for a good quad-core one when u upgrade your GPU.
-A gigabyte p35 mobo (GA-P35-S3G) costs 4.5k i.e 2k more than the current one....but it eradicates the expandability problems since its an ATX mobo and can support upto 8gb ram and also supports 1066Mhz

Aman and afty modify this to make it cheaper plz.....
and also some suggestions..

edit:: prices from @www.theitwares.com ... I guess they charge upto 200 extra on almost everything.. so u can save upto 1.5k buying locally

Edited by ~--YeSH--~, 12 June 2009 - 02:00 PM.

[~--YeSH--~]

checked up with a friend of mine fellas... he has same config ....

he gets playable frames... @ 1152x864 2X AA highsettings on crysis with HD 4670 on 17" LCD

also ... GTA 4

so I guess u will still do better if u go for 9800gt 1gb

edit:: this system (with 9800gt) gets 40fps+ in far cry 2 very high settings

Edited by ~--YeSH--~, 12 June 2009 - 11:33 AM.

[AtheK]

sweet stuff Yesh, very nice.

[~--YeSH--~]

sweet stuff Yesh, very nice.

thx...

will post a good mid-range future proof one soon......

[devil_angel]

also 4670 is much friendly on ur power supply bill than 9800.....

[AtheK]

OP updated

[~--YeSH--~]

hey guys....

Play "boom boom pow" in the background for better results...

After quite a while of exile period and creating a bunch of utter-flop processors AMD now jumped back into the race,back in its favorite mid-range budget segment.

No matter what, AMD has been ruling the mid-range segment, and there is no wonder if this will continue.

Now, this configuration is budget based futureproof gaming PC.

Right at the site of futureproof u'd jump out of ur chair and say intel i7 is most futereproof than any other proc in the world. True.

But, we aren't making servers or research lab equipment here, We're making a GAMING RIG and thts in budget.

As I said earlier, AMD recovered from athlon x2 and phenom x2 , x4 flops, their phenom II series brought them back to a more than winning position in the midrange segment.

At the price of a core 2 duo PII X3's and x4's outperformed their intel core 2 quad counterparts.

So, tht clarifies why i chose to go for a completely AMD-ATI Rig....



Gentlemen meet...

THE ROGUE

The config....

CPU :: AMD Phenom II X3 720 BE 2.8Ghz 6mb cache Rs7700
Motherboard:: Asus M4a78t-E Am3 motherboard ATX 790gx Rs 9635
Ram:: Patriot low latency edition PSD34G1333K 1333 Mhz DDR3 Rs 5000
GPU:: ATI Radeon HD 4890 1gb DDR5 Rs 17000
PSU:: Tagan Modular BZ600 600w Rs 6050
Case:: NZXT Tempest Rs6000
HDD +Dvd drive:: Rs 4000

Total @ 55.5k approx

So, @55.5k u can max out any game till-date and keep maxing out in future too

Recommended peripherals::
Samsung 2233sw Full HD 16:9 --10.5k
Logitech G1 gaming desktop -- 1.5k
Altec Lansing ATP3 speakers-- 4k

Totals to 72.5k approx

Cons of the system::
-apparantly none...but price is more than mid-range .. prices in india are too high ..

pros of the system::
-As futureproof as the i7, coz AMD confirmed that the future am3+/am4 families along with am3, i7 and i5 killers will be compatible with the current am3 motherboard.
-DDR3 ram -- fast and future proof
-overclocks like hell.. thnx to AMD overdrive and ASUS OC features
-GPU is also powerful
-Lots of expandability
-Case has top fan and lots of cooling
-tricore has the advantages of both worlds ... affordable like dual cores and effective like quad-cores..

Compared to its peers::
-Beats both e8400 and Q8200 which fall in the same segment


This is a totally balanced system so ..there wont be any bottleneck issues.

U can hook up another GPU.. just make sure its ATI... 'coz theres no point in have=ing a gtx 275 running in a board with onboard ATI graphics and supports only crossfire..

The least GPU I recommend is HD 4850 512mb

This rig justifies the notion...

Future is Fusion

Next time will post an intel alternative.

Edited by ~--YeSH--~, 18 July 2009 - 10:36 PM.

[Gaurav - Solitaire]

nice AMD rig, two years ago you'd have had to pay like 1.2- 1.3 lakhs for a similar performing PC. Prices have gone down drastically over the years, especially those hyper expensive GPUs.

waiting to see your intel alternative.

[AtheK]

nice one yesh, but you need to start looking at alternative ram solutions then transcend, with the rig going over 50 the ram has to be good.

[~--YeSH--~]

^^ am tryin' .. but not getting any Bang for Buck....ram....

Edited by ~--YeSH--~, 12 June 2009 - 04:20 PM.

[Panthelon]

^^ here you go, this should do the job well..

http://www.memoryc.c...riescl8kit.html

[AtheK]

ranjith looking for things available only in india...

here you go..

PSD34G1333K Patriot DDR3-1333 4GB Kit (2GBx2) Long-Dimm/ SL Series 4800

[~--YeSH--~]

post updated with patriot ram

[~--YeSH--~]

Accept it or not, i7 is the best proc out there and is also most sought after proccy.
Though i7 920 looks good with a 15k price tag on it competing with any other extreme quadcore proccy... It has hidden costs of X58 mobo and DDR3 ram....

but If u want to make a good futureproof rig... there is no choice except i7 rite now...

So here is the cheapest i7 u can ever make....@65k

CPU:: i7 920 Rs 15500/-

Mobo:: MSI X58 pro Rs 13500/-


Ram:: Patriot low latency PSD34G1333K 4gb 1333Mhz DDR3 Rs5000/-

PSU:: Tagan Modular 800w BZ800w modular Rs8000/-

HDD+DVD:: Rs 4000/-

Case:: 6k Nzxt tempest shuld do the trick

GPU::Here are some options...
-ATI Radeon HD 4870 1gb Rs 13000/- usually...

-but rite now there is a galaxy GTX 275 OC version @ 13,500/- at techenclave

-Manli brand HD 4890 (reference card model) 13k also @ techenclave

crysis warhead GPU performances...

total @65k approx

pros::
-u are getting i7 experience for 65k
-gr8 value I must say..

cons::
-a lot of compromises
-6gb ram can make hell lot of difference
-inferior GPU than THE ROGUE ( considering 4870)
-if u get a gtx 275.. this board aint sli enabled but crossfire...

suggested upgrades:
-as I said 6gb can bring a LOT of difference..
-add another 5k to budget and get a good gfx card like gtx 285 or 4890 OC (keep checking ebay and techenclave .. with dollar value so less.. it aint a bad idea to import a better card)
- get a monster cooler like v8 or v10( if u have the money) and OC to atleast 3.2Ghz ( u can go upto 4.2 on air!!)...

future:: 4yrs max without touching a thing... 8-10yrs upgrading ram and GPU down the road...

my thoughts::
65k is slightly less (by 5k) to higer midrange segment and far away( by 15k) from actual midrange segment .... so it is well in budget and faaar away(35k) from enthusiast segment(the segment to which i7 belongs to!!!)

There is no doubt tht i7 is the best out there... clubbed with a gtx 275 ( if u take advantage of tht deal) it will certainly outperform THE ROGUE and costs only 10k more...

Edited by ~--YeSH--~, 13 June 2009 - 07:12 PM.

[Stevie G fan]

Cheapest mobo for phenom 2 9600 .

also tell about proc +mobo review of above

[~--YeSH--~]

^^ ask this in PC experts thread

[aman_is_here]

wana buy gaming pc. budget 40k.
only cpu. no monitor or mouse keyboard.

pls include prices of wat u recommend.

Edited by aman_shelke, 24 August 2009 - 04:18 PM.

[blackheart2925]

Hey athek, great thread! Now that both my laptops ( office and personal) have broken down... Am looking for something at home... Without internet at home, I think am suffocating!

Just one question - the sub25k pc, it will run Photoshop cs2 also if not properly, then at least decently right...?

Also I hope diablo 3 which is coming and Warcraft will run without any problems!

[m-JeRi]

^^^

Get this

Gigabyte GA-G31-S2L - 2.5k
Intel E5200 - 3.3k
Transcend 2 x 2GB DDR2 800MHz - 2.2k
Palit 9600GT 512MB 4.5k
Seagate 320GB SATAII - 2.2k
Zebronics Bijli ATX - 1.1k
Zebronics Real Power 360W - 1.5k
L.G. GH22NS30 SATA/Samsung SH-S22F SATA - 1.1k
Creative Inspire 2.1 M2600 - 1.8k
Samsung S2033SW - 7.5k~
Samsung Pleomax - .2k
Logitech Optical - .4k

All your queries are OK here....

[AtheK]

go with what jeri said, as for warcraft it runs on PC with onboard video cards also

Diabolo 3 the specs are still not out if i am correct so can't be sure..

[~--YeSH--~]

@m-Jeri -- awesome one dude.. perfectly balanced....
@Blackheart... If u can increase the budget another 2k and buy E7400 cpu .. It can run almost anything perfectly

[aman_is_here]

^^^

Get this

Gigabyte GA-G31-S2L - 2.5k
Intel E5200 - 3.3k
Transcend 2 x 2GB DDR2 800MHz - 2.2k
Palit 9600GT 512MB 4.5k
Seagate 320GB SATAII - 2.2k
Zebronics Bijli ATX - 1.1k
Zebronics Real Power 360W - 1.5k
L.G. GH22NS30 SATA/Samsung SH-S22F SATA - 1.1k
Creative Inspire 2.1 M2600 - 1.8k
Samsung S2033SW - 7.5k~
Samsung Pleomax - .2k
Logitech Optical - .4k

All your queries are OK here....

i lik it but ppl tellin me dat 9600 gt is EPIC FAIL.

[m-JeRi]

for your budget mate... you can get a 4670 is you want...

just check with your vendor and post whats available in that budget...well tell ya

[Ne0]

Hi guys,

what are your thoughts/comments on the below config ? Planning to run with Win 7 OS. Will be using for AV encoding/photoshopping/gaming/watching HD movies etc

Intel core i7 920 – 14800
Gigabyte X58UD3R – 14500
Transcend 2 x 2GB DDR2 800MHz – 2.2k
Cabinet: CoolerMaster HAF 922 - 6.5k
SMPS: Corsair TX 650W - 7k
Seagate 7200.12 500GB SATAII - 2.8k
Palit GTX 260 Core 216 Sonic - 11k
Benq 24" G2412HD - 11.6k

Can you help me improve or help decrease the cost, in case there's a cheaper/better option available ? How is phenom II compared to i7 ? I read that they give similar performance when it comes to gaming, and its a tad cheaper than i7

[Tyler]

^^ Please help the guy buy a PC!

No more anti-PC posts... YAY!

Config looks good to me BTW. Or you may wanna wait for the DX11 cards to be available.... which is happening very soon.

[Ne0]

^^ Please help the guy buy a PC!

No more anti-PC posts... YAY!

Config looks good to me BTW. Or you may wanna wait for the DX11 cards to be available.... which is happening very soon.

Yeah ok, I'm not too keen on upgrading the gfx card. I can wait. BTW, any comment on phenom II ?

[Dark_Knight]

I am using Phenom II 940 Black Ed. with a MSI DKA 790GX Platinum Mobo and 2x2GB DDR2 Ram and an Palit HD 4850 Sonic Edition card (512 MB DDR5)... It runs all games perfectly and its quite good with encoding videos and with photoshop also... Why don't you check out some camparisons and reviews of the Phenom II 940... It gives almost the same performance for lesser cost...