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2 minutes ago, radicaldude said:
PS- looking it how ms is moving forward, I guess they want to dilute the concept of parties and transform itself into a publisher, publishing games on every platform fathomable.
They aren’t really making any money on hardware business.
Neither systems sold nor software royalties attached to it.
Only through subscription & that too is so heavily discounted with respect to content being offered,that it’s borderline free.
Their only sole motive right now is to attract as many subscribers as possible in their lead up to the mainstream cloud streaming service.
So potentially in future when all the studios that they have lined up start to make quality serviceable games, they can potentially stop this “freedom drive” & open subscriptions on every possible platform.
Ditching hardware business at that point would make complete sense.
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1 hour ago, Joe Cool said:
Yep. But all this will change when more PS games come to PC. It will be fine and first-party there.
How is the situation of PS studios starting to release games alongside on PC even remotely similar to this situation?!?If hypocritically Sony releases some game on PC but not on PS,
Obviously that game won’t be categorised as a First Party
I think there have been instances where Sony Online entertainment has released games only on PC.
Obviously those weren’t First Party label.
Talk about the spin….JesusChrist
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34 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:
ignoring the fact Studio and IP both are MS owned. Lol
By this very f**k all logicit would imply that every single game ever created by every single publisher who owns the studio & IP
Is making a “First Party game”
Listen up guys every single game by Activision,EA,Ubisoft,Bathesda,2K were all “First Party” games
Arrey bhai kya jokergiri chalu hai idhar
Just not worth continuing…..
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6 minutes ago, TRMNTR said:
Exactly. This is such a waste of time. Just like in real life, you pay money for something, you either licence it or own it. It's that simple. Everything else is a made up definition to win arguments on the internet. Doesn't matter which side it is. Moving on.
Exactlysomething that doesn’t have anything to do even remotely with “Xbox” is being brought up here in an Xbox related thread again & again just for the sake of pointers & count.
I wonder how many traditional console gamers even had a look on this franchise until recently.
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7 minutes ago, TRMNTR said:
You are confusing platform with hardware. A platform is a much broader word. It can mean hardware and/or software. Similarly, PC is open and a much broader term; it encompasses a lot of platforms.
It’s not really me who has been traditionally defining “first,second & third party” gaming softwares.
It’s always defined in terms of hardware it’s running on & who is providing both hardware & software.
By your logic if Nintendo or Sony buy OS from some third party company & then run their IP’s on their platform through non proprietary OS,they wouldn’t be labelled “First Party” anymore.
I highly doubt that could be the case coz they themselves use N number of different third party software & hardware to assemble “their” proprietary machines.
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6 minutes ago, TRMNTR said:
Why isn't AoE4 first party then? Doesn't MS own the Windows platform?
Windows is an OS
not the system that’s running the software.
Also PC is an open platform.
You can combine n number of different softwares & hardwares to run things.
It’s PC that’s running the OS &!! the Game both made by M$
It’s like saying Orbis/XMB OS of PS is the platform & not PS itself.
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1 minute ago, WhiteWolf said:
Devs are figuring out how to port it to Xbox
Till the time it’s not
or it’s not streaming right of of M$ Xcloud servers.
It’s not first party
Coz you need a non M$ owned device to run it.
Mere ownership is different from “First Party Software”
Until it’s not your IP,Your money,your platform that’s running it.
It’s not first party software.
How hard is it to understand.
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1 minute ago, WhiteWolf said:
Age is decade old MS IP. MS releases games both Windows and Xbox, doesn't matter the platform. Pls stop with your stupid post already. You are clueless about everything Xbox related
& you are clueless of anything language related.
Me & Radicul both quoted the very definition of First Party.
Still you are at it
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1 minute ago, hsk_colossus said:
Why so abusive bro? Chillax ?Should have thought that before using anal word over & again.
You guys are a bunch of useless bafoons who know nothing else but insecurities & abuse.
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1 minute ago, radicaldude said:
Halo however is coming off the colossal failure that is halo 5.
I wouldn’t go as far as calling it a failure & that too a colossal one.
But Halo & Gears held status of GoW,Spider-Man,Uncharted,TLOU hold for Sony today.
That is just not the case since the developers changed.
& they are not the same market leaders as they used to be.
Still quite good games by the looks & opinions.
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1 hour ago, SaiKO said:
Demon’s Souls on ps5 raised the bar too high for the graphics in Souls games for me.
Bluepoint nailed everything with that game, the art direction, graphics, feel. Everything was on point.
Maybe that’s why I’m a bit apprehensive about the graphics here. Looks good nonetheless. But not Demon’s Souls lvl.
Demon Souls had the oldest design of corridor lurking.
The evolution that Fromsoftware games have taken since then leading up to the full blown open world design of Elden Ring,just doesn’t allow for those sort of visuals.
It’s always going to be the Scale vs Visuals debate.
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Haven’t played Halo or Gears released on Bone
But played all on 360 & they were all killerapps
Going only by popular opinion & sales
they aren’t even close to their former self.
But you get what I mean.
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2 minutes ago, gecko89 said:
See, you're better off talking to a dry wall than arguing with that colossal idiot.
As for MS, I agree they started late to have any impact on SX launch window. However, they seem to be on the right track. GP service is excellent, FH is a killer, HI looks great and they have promising titles on the horizon. Sure not near PS on exclusives front just yet, but MS has improved a lot over the shitshow that was XB1.
Forza & Halo were always comingthey have been coming along with gears for literal infinity.
Though it’s good to see Forza keeping its quality of killerapp intact unlike Halo & Gears which are no longer of same value as before.
The only & only thing M$ should be given credit of with regards to newly acquired games & IP’s is buying them up like a good(going out of business) retail chain & offering them on their shelves for free.
That credit is well deserved & undisputed.
But taking credit for their quality & status in the market.
Far fetched.
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36 minutes ago, radicaldude said:
@AnK is perfectly correct. Both the games are not on the xbox consoles yet.
Even the ones which are,aren’t first party exclusives & just first party games.
M$ didn’t have sole rights to them as they had given contractual rights to other platforms.
Talk about taking credit for something you don’t even have sole rights to
But go no further than our world renowned spinner & mixers to try & give to their beloved.
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8 minutes ago, gecko89 said:
You asking to check definitions?! Lol that's fresh
Lol they are getting entangled in their own foolish pointers.
Bottom line:-
M$ started off too late with their first party exclusive buildup to have any meaningful impact in SX launch window or it’s foreseeable future.
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2 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said:
that was a quick edit @AnK?
wasn’t really a quick editbut you quick posts one after the other as if your a*s is on fire after realising that you don’t know sh*t.
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5 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said:
yup..you are right… you are the anal-yst afterall
Can report for abusive languagebut twits like you are just not worth the time.
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Didn’t expect to school a mod:-
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2 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said:
Allright dude… AOE 4 isn’t first party
It’s first party in terms of PC Subscription.
Not hardware.
You guys really don’t know what first party inherently means.
Deathloop is far from first party as of yet.
It will only become once it lands either on hardware (to become hardware first party)Or subscription (to become subscription first party content).
Go get a clue on what business language is before acting smart.
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16 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said:
What is wrong in this statement?!?
First party does mean when you own the IP……
…….& it’s available on your system.
As it’s you yourself the first party in both IP & System ownership.
Do you even know the basic business language?!?
Edit:- the quote you brought up had the context of only IP ownership in question,not platform availability hence no mention of that.
As it was always available on PS consoles throughout.
Lol nice try to pull my stunt on me though
I’m straight forward & clean unlike others who I pull it on.
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25 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:
You are the only who is clueless. They own Deathloop
AchhaaWhy aren’t they releasing it on their own system?!?
Even after a famine of games why the f**k wait?!?
Truth is that the factual ownership will start once Sony’s rights on it expire.
Till then it’s not IP under M$ rights.
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9 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:
Now Age of empire is also not MS first party just coz its not on Xbox?
LolFirst Party means your IP,Your System & made by your studio.(either owned or hired)
Neither Deathloop nor Age of Empires have even released on Xbox proprietary system of M$.
How the f**k can you call them First Party games.
It’s M$’s third party games for other systems.
Go get your facts checked before spewing crap.
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5 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:
Doesnt matter. Starfield development started before acquisition too.
Starfeild will be a “first party IP” for M$Cos it is releasing on Xbox the console.
unlike Deathloop & Age of Empires.
You have no clue what you are even speaking.
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6 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:
Arkane and Double fine are 1st party. Stop living in denial, MS owns them and the IP lol.
Arkane has yet to release any first party game on M$’s proprietary system.
You guys are so clueless that you don’t even know what first party actually means.
It’s M$ Owned in last minute of Deathloop yes.
But the studio has yet to provide a “first party” IP for M$Go get your self some wisdom before speaking factually incorrect statements.
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PlayStation vs Xbox vs Nintendo thread
in News, Rumours and Discussions
Posted · Edited by AnK
By that logic CoD,GTA,BF & pretty much every other game is a First Party game.
Doesn’t work that way
First Party in it’s inherent term means the First Party (Platform provider) is making games for it’s own platforms.
[quote]Seems like now we're also counting exclusives as first party?[/quote]
Third Party be it even exclusive to a single platform is not categorised as First Party.