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  1. btw a lot of talks about R3 being launched in India in Sep, what is your take on it and i also Kinda like the GT250R

     

     

    The rumors of the R3 been launching have been going on for quite some time I am actually a bit disappointed that they are taking such a long time to bring it in India despite the crazy fan following Yamaha has in India especially in the performance segment, instead they keep releasing one commuter after another despite them being very very far behind Hero and Honda in the commuter segment.

  2. A Bird Story is a bundle game, not worth it. GMG's reputation already gone down to drain after they implemented INR

    Not been keeping up with GMG recently, any particular reason why the INR implementation is bad?

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    Looks puny mate in front of this, though packs a lot of punch, but i would rather prefer Pulsar SS 400, if Bajaj is fast enough to launch it.

     

    Service is the only reason, making me hold on to my decision, a friend just picked one. Let me wait for few months and see how it shapes up.

     

    True but in terms of power, accelaration and top speed it beats the tnt hands down.

     

    I myself am waiting for Bajaj to release the Pulsar SS 400 and see what the come up with or even the Mojo and BMW K03 but there is till no sign of any of the three.

  4. Bought the red GIxxer finally! My first bike

     

     

    Congo mate ride safe

     

    tnt 300

     

    A bit of caution mate, from what i have heard benelli service is still not that great though the bike itself is awesome.

     

    Any reason for not going with the duke 390?

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    From my experience in TCS, a Business Analyst might be slightly different from what you're expecting. Its not exactly a managerial role. We have BA's in my project and their job, primarily, is to act as a sort of an interface between the Clients and us (tech people). They are required to have 'business knowledge' on the application and are the first point of contact for the clients in case of any issues/queries (its a maintenace/support project). And yes, it is indeed possible for a techincal resource to switch to such a role if he/she manages to gather enough business knowledge and, more importantly, the client is okay with with it. :)

     

    Having said that, this is just one project I'm talking about. The job description may vary from place to place.

     

    Ah that’s fine, I would love to work as that role. Infact if I am correct to get a good managerial position I would need at least 6-7 years of experience, till that I would much rather work as a BA then a technical guy because that is where my interest lies.

    Also as a former TCS employee how was your experience dealing with the RMG and HR, are they considerate towards someone who wants to change field like that.

     

    I have never worked in ITIS, but from what I know, they deal with providing Infra services to the IT departments. I must tell you very very less companies use Linux systems as development platforms. They are mostly servers. Windows platform is used by almost 90% folks for development and also servers. Cisco instruments are mostly used for conference calls etc. This is the only information I have. Not sure how it works. Also, don't get discouraged, if you are good, you can make any field work for you. Just be sincere in what you do. But do check with HR regarding domain change. Even after 1-2 years, its fine. You always learn something new in IT, and you should always try to diversify (not an advice I give to everyone, but getting out of ITIS is a good idea)

     

    Also, try to learn as much as you can.

     

     

    TBQH, managerial side sucks. I am about to become a manager next year or so (currently already managing an offshore team of 8 people), but the job sucks. I rather remain a technical guy forever. These big companies have just too much sh*t going on which managers have to take care, like audits, internal quality tools, metrics management etc, there is just too much BS to deal with. Also, as quixote said above, a BA is someone who is a functional guy, someone who has functional knowledge and can act as a liaison between technical team and clients (users) and create business requirement documents etc or provide consulting. Honestly, I find that role boring because you don't have access to coding tools (which I cant do without) Now to become a BA from a fresher, you need to learn the functional side of the client business (if banking client then learn Retail Banking, for Insurance clients learn how Insurance works, for ERPs learn the functionality) Once you get good, you can claim or start asking for BA roles (in same company or while switching)

    Another way is to do MBA and then join back as BA in IT. (I would not recommend this, as my batchmates who did this, are now working under me at much lesser salary :lol: ) Do it only from a very reputed institute i.e. not below IIMs.

     

     

     

    Also, ALWAYS make your aim to go to Onsite when in IT Industry. You make shitload of money for doing the same work at offshore. For example, you get $60K+ minimum when at onsite. Taxes and expenses aside, you can easily save around 1 lac per month unless you visit pubs and strip clubs every weekend :lol:

     

    The thing is management is my passion. My father is GM(HR) in a PSU, he has always been my role model. Ever since I passed high school I wanted to be like him, do something in HR, thought of perusing a BBA but due to various reasons I ended up doing Engineering in Computer Science instead (partly due to the lure of high salary in the IT field). This passion of management is still inside me even after completing the engineering. So much so that last month I even gave a couple of interviews of the position of hr recruiter and even got selected in them. But I did not join because the salary on offer was 1.7l pa that is like peanuts in a city like Mumbai. Almost 50% less then what TCS is offering me. So you can understand how much I want to get into a more managerial role.

    The thing with MBA is that I really suck at entrance exams, In fact I got very very bad scores in all the Engineering entrance exams I gave, according to my entrance scores I should not have got admission in Engineering in a d grade college, however with some twisting I managed to get into a decent engineering college. Compared to the entrance exam the course itself was a breeze form me, I got almost full marks in internals and term work every semester all due to my speaking skills and persuasion skill :P

    And the competition in MBA entrance exams is 10 times more, I might get selected in an average college and end up as your friends. I really don’t want that.

     

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    TCS as a company is a huge opportunity bowl. You should get in. I am or was a Mechanical Engineer in TCS (Got relieved a couple of days ago). Read: A proper Mechanical Engineer.

    I started out as a Mainframe developer, and really felt my base is in Mech. Eng. and pushed for it and got what I wanted to a 30-40% satisfaction level (I'm not easily satisfied :/ ). The organisation is full of opportunities...just realise what you are really after and keep an open mind frame. These are cliche'd suggestions, but still work. Adapting and growing is key. Close mindedness will make life difficult.

     

    Yup I am having a very open mind about it that’s why even after hearing the lack of growth in support role I am thinking of joining it to branch out to a role I would like. Getting actual work experience of working in an organization would be immense to me no matter what I do even if it is a low key support job.

    Also since you are also a former employee of TCS may I ask the same question of how was your experience dealing with the RMG and HR, are they considerate towards someone who wants to change fields.

     

     

    Out of the three, the first two are purely for server maintenance. Will be more of support etc.

    I would recommend Networking. Lots of opportunities.

     

     

    You can join Cisco the company easily if your base is in networking.

    Provided his other two options, considering the future, this is the best option.

    Also, You can join any major firm which has a substantial IT base, including Apple. The other two options don't give him that.

     

    I have heard that truly excel in the network side one needs lots of certifications compared to server side, is that true?

    The thing is I really don’t want to do any certifications and get more and more into technical side, in fact like I said earlier I want to move over to a BA role or something semi technical with the ultimate and sole aim of moving to managerial position. With that in mind what would you say I go for.

     

     

    Business Server's mostly run on Linux or UNIX ...

     

    Windows Server's will also be there in the client stack for Mail, Sharepoint,SQL Server and other Microsoft related services ...

     

    Networking on the other hand you will be handling the networking infrastructure of the company Switches, NAS, etc.

     

     

     

    # Switching Job - Linux is easier

     

    # Ease of Understanding and Work - Windows is easier [Microsft Cloud Service is a hit nowadays and many small/mid level clients are moving towards it, it will result in reduced jobs in long run]

     

    # If you can complete higher certifications and excel in that , CISCO is better ...

     

     

    Linux will be a safe bet, but you might end on a simple project and you might not learn anything. It is hard to suggest you one because your learning curve will depend on the Client you will be supporting and the roles that are being assigned to you. You will be able to find new jobs after 2+ yrs of exp.

     

    These jobs will mostly have Shifts and you might have to work on weekends too. Allowances will be paid for both in most companies.

     

    If you need exact idea on how things work in TCS you have to find someone who already works there. Try using Linkedin or FB Pages and see if you can find any or what about your senior's who have joined in TCS. You can find out the details from them ...

     

    Shift is the absolute worst part of support, in fact I don’t think I would be able to even do a night shift given my health is not currently at its best. Also will start hunting around on facebook to find someone who works in TCS to get his/her opinion.

     

    lulwut [emoji38]

     

    So people spend hundreds of dollars and complete ccna and ccnp certifications coz they want to setup vc facilities in meeting rooms ? At least Google up before you give such advice !

     

    Linux is the future "IMO", if someone wants to get into network maintenance/adminstration ! This is purely speculation on my part , but i feel there is going to be huge demand for cloud infrastructure and related services in India for the ongoing e commerce boom.... and most startups prefer to have open source stacks like LAMP than conventional windows based solutions.... anyway it's always better to talk to sometime who's working in the industry and get a first hand knowledge of ground reality before choosing either of the three !

     

    Choosing a stream out of these 3 is turning out to be a herculean task for me especially since I am at a total blank state on all of the 3. (Have a basic idea of networking and iso/osi layers and routing but I am presuming that CISCO Networking would be much much harder.)

     

    I know a few people. PM me. What do you need?

     

    CISCO Networking > Linux > Windows. But it depends on the work the org does. Networking - always good because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. Unix is still at the backbone of networking systems.

     

    Oh - and please don't become a BA yet. Also, BA not necessarily managerial. I work with quite a few BAs and rarely find a good one.

     

    From what you said earlier Networking does seem good like the better option among the 3 but like I mentioned earlier in this post I have heard a bit rumors that to truly excel in networking I would need to do lots of certifications compared to the servers which don’t require them much. I really don’t want to do any certifications.

     

    @irock : I'd go with Linux or CISCO Networking, in that order of preference. Linux is everywhere, and will continue to be. FFS, I am no longer in a 'hands-on' role, but my prior experience in Linux (Unix, actually) has come in handy in plenty of situations recently.

     

    Also, certifications are supposed to come in handy but I personally don't see the point (have never encountered a situation where certifications would've helped me). It's like saying everyone who has a BE/BTech is an 'engineer'.

     

    Is it difficult to get into Linux server considering that there is no GUI and for everything you have to use commands and scripts. Also I would have absolutely no idea of Linux and would be learning something totally new, in fact Linux was not even part of the syllabus in any of the semesters.

  6. ITIS means mostly you will be working in internal systems or in shifts for clients, with very less scope of Onsite. You should ask people who have worked in IT sector before making such choices. Try to get out of it by talking to HR. Get into developer side of things. For my first 6 months, I hated what I was doing, but then my interest grew and now I am considered one of the best in what I do in my company. A different perspective helps.

     

    And yes, getting into UK and Australia is easiest now. Canada has become very tough thanks to their immigration law changes, and as I said, US is the toughest (unless Obama gets the f**k out, things wont change)

     

    I gave my campus interview almost a year back and at that time I really had no idea what these different streams were. I agree I made a huge mistake. I will try talking to HR and see if that helps.

     

     

     

    Don't think you've made a bad choice. I know lots of networking professionals who are in a valued space. In my projects I am always looking for good networking people and only get people partially allocated. Here's a look at how the scenarios play out from business perspective and work perspective.

     

    Biz:

    Organizations nowadays don't develop anything from scratch. It's a ship of Theseus approach. Everything is already there - all they go through are upgrades and changes. And everything interacts with everything else. It's a networking and infrastructure nightmare at the best of times. At the worst of times no one has a clue what needs to be done. Having a good infra / networking guy is a godsend. I have this friend who has literally saved projects and accounts because of her knowledge. So this is a valued role and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. There is a tendency among people to belittle this role but your vindication will come when they come running for you.

     

    Work:

    So this is not going to start off as a high profile role. The reason is that the infra / networking works takes relatively less effort but the impact is huge. A good build & release system may take only a few days to set up - but the cascading impact is unmeasurable. Speak to any developer where the CI is bad and hear him abuse. This will give you immense experience across multiple projects and environments and that is never a bad thing. Some of the senior managers and directors I know in this field are in demand across the organization because we have come to understand that this is an area to get grossly wrong. Developer roles may start out high profile but let's face it - 90% of the time you will be copying code from stackoverflow. You will spend double the time in documentation and unit testing. Any dreams you have of working on cutting edge stuff will be squashed. It's the rare developer who evolves into a rockstar for his development skills in Indian companies. But that's true of any domain.

     

    Thank you so much for your words, I can’t tell you how much more relaxed I feel now. Honestly I am like getting nightmare since 2 weeks like I made the worst career choice of my life. I was beginning to feel that my career is about to take a nose dive just because of one choice. I read up a lot on quora and every question i read related to ITIS made me even more depressed.

     

     

    i_rock098

    I didn't meant to discourage you buddy. I'm talking with my interaction with ITIS people in TCS.

     

    @Gramps

    Do you know of anyone established in TCS or an equivalent company, who is in the field? Or anyone else here (not just Gramps) for that matter?

    It could be the biggest help for irock right now.

    I'd been trying to source someone to fix a networking nightmare for my project....which never happened.

    Someone like that didn't seem to exist in the organisation. The people I got to meet were either plain dumbos or were not even interested because no one got credited for their effort anyway. This is so bad because once people lose visibility (and this happens so often in TCS in roles that are swinging within the organisational needs), the motivation drops and sh*t goes down the spiral. I've seen people lamenting that they don't even feel like engineers any more. Sad, to be honest.

     

    I understand mate you are only trying to help me, infact I thank you that you put it straight and I could see the reality of things in the IT industry. In a large organization it is very difficult to get noticed but I will try me best to.

     

     

    Like I have said earlier technology side is really not my interest, as soon as I get the chance I want to jump ship into managerial side. So related to that I have two further questions.

     

    1) I was surfing around in naukri.com and I came across something like business analyst in IT on reading the job description I was like yes this is exactly what I mean by I want to stay in the IT industry but on the business side of things. Infact I checked the requirements all the postings require BE/Btech engineers with 2 years experience. So the question is can I switch to a Business Analyst/Product Manager after working 2-3 years?

     

    2) Now that I atleast need to join TCS to start my career they have given me the option to choose my technical streamfor training (there is a 3 months training before joining). There are 3 technical streams available, now I have absolutely no idea about any of these fields so I really really need you guys to help me. In tems of pure growth what would be better between these

    1. Windows 2008/2012
    2. Red Hat Linux
    3. CISCO Networking

     

    Which one should I choose? From the searches i did on google I am getting a bit contradicting views, saying There is more money in Windows, but it is a narrow and shrinking field.There is more growth and diversity and Linux, and it is spreading. There is less money up front, but more potential in the long run. And absolutly no one supporting CISCO Networking

     

    What do you guys say?

  7. I think ITIS is a poor choice mate, especially in TCS.

    But it's not the end of the world, you can always look for a stream switch within the organisation. You have to be a bit of an outlaw though because freshers are generally pressurised into requirements at hand.

     

    EDIT: Talk to the HR and be clear about your interests while joining.

     

    Looks like i really made a mistake in this case then :( , I would try my best to switch streams but like you said I don’t have much bargaining power being a fresher. Still I will make sure I talk to my hr and be clear about it. Damn I am feeling so bad right now.

     

     

    You can reach great heights and achieve success in any role in any field, that's upto you.

     

    But there are certain roles like Support where the opportunities are limited in number and scope. Let's just put it this way - e.g. in a company there may be 500 jobs for Developer and 50 for Support, both US-based. There's a better probability of getting to the US as a developer in this case.

     

    My suggestion - talk to HR beforehand, and see what other options you have. That said, if you have interest in a particular technology, like Networking, then you will find it easier to work on that technology, and growth would be relatively easier.

     

    It is apples and oranges comparison sometimes, but at the end of the day you have to be dedicated and work hard (read smart) at your job to be succesful.

     

    Thanks for the kind words mate but I think made a mistake from the future aspect especially since like I told how much I want to go to US/Australia and it looks a little gloom with Networking. I will try talking to hr but I don’t have my hopes high being a fresher.

  8. 12 years and am in middle management. Be exceptionally good at a niche skill and / or client management and / or people management. You have to work hard. There's no short cut. Even the ones who have great start ups have burnt the midnight oil to be successful.

     

    This is a matter of perspective. I have jostled in NYC subway and Swedish buses - it can get as bad as BEST and local trains (done those as well). You will find a huge culture shock there. No one is going to lift a finger to help out with things that we take for granted here. Your weekend and evenings will be chores chores chores. If you can afford a housecleaner, they will come for one hour a week and charge $300. Anything which remotely involves manual labour will be extremely expensive. Try cooking everyday - because you will soon get tired of eating Thai - it can be so painful when you come home in the evening. If you want your own place, you will probably end up commuting 2 hrs daily. And you will be expected to be in office at 8 am (because of all the meetings with the offshore team). And don't even think about falling ill without medical insurance. This is just US. Continental Europe - worse service and 50% more expensive. Japan - say bye bye savings.

    What is wonderful is that everything follows rules and processes. So if you're that kind of person you will fit right in. I love the US because every downtown is exactly the same. Every store is the same. Europe is a hotch potch but the big cities are typically the same. I prefer to visit countries for a few weeks every year and enjoy the sites. But can't see myself living there.

     

     

     

    For L1 you need to be employed with that company's Indian entity for 1 consecutive year out of the preceding 3 years. I have a colleague who had quit the company but eight months later he re-joined it in US directly with L1 visa.

     

    From what I know, Europe is very expensive, and in most countries you'd need to know the local language. Australia is easiest to get to at this point of time. I personally suggest Canada to those looking to move 'abroad' as it is relatively easier to get residency, and it eventually opens up your options for moving to US as you get experience in NA job market.

     

     

    Learn to deal with the former. I always tell people to "enjoy what you do", as there are very few lucky people who get to "do what they enjoy".

     

    Second aspect, yes you can and definitely will move into management role based on your experience. MBA is not a prerequisite.

     

    I personally consider MBA to be over-valued as a degree, but that's just my opinion.

     

    Thank you so much for your insights into the the IT world, I could have never got so much information talking to my friends, looks like it reality is a bit tough living in USA/ Europe and not so rosy as people make it seem.

     

    I have one more question that I would like to know if that’s ok, when I had the campus interview for TCS they had choice for which stream we want to join in, I chose ITIS (IT Infrastructure Services) due to my interest in Networking. I have a lot of interest in networking compared to development coding. Being a network engineer would mean I would be in support right? I have read online from various websites that there is absolutely no growth in ITIS and support, is that true? I am very very depressed since reading that like I would be stuck with no growth while my other friends who chose IT(Java,C etc) would go on to reach high positions with good salary. Is that true? :fear: :fear:

  9. HR is a lot different from engineering. Its a kind of field where experience matters the most, dealing with ppl, conversation skills etc. People over there who go to HR will not be like engineering background ppl like you. They would be having some kind of experience already, so you might need to catch up to them.

     

    Im not saying you should do something you dont like just because its safer or easy. But just asking you to consider if its really worth to discard all the experience you got in 22 yrs of life and start at something new.

     

    If you like to be a manager in IT field, MIS is one of the best options to consider. I dont really know too much about it but try your luck asking someone or reading about it.

     

    I know I most probably wont be happy doing MS so think I will just avoid it because doing something without your heart in it especially when the course is this costly is not right in my mind. All I want to do in life right now is live in a developed country working as a IT Manager with a good quality of life.

     

     

    You have to showcase that you have a team-oriented thinking, which you need to showcase. e.g. share useful information with the team via email broadcast. Take up minor leadership initiatives such as any small task which involves you coordinating efforts by others of your team.

     

    But first 1-2 years just stick to being a strong individual contributor. In simple terms, do your work well, do it well in time.

     

    And at all times, self-promote!

     

     

    MIS is a good degree on paper. But in practice, you don't see many people who have taken it up and achieved anything different from MS degree.

     

    Eventually, an academic degree can only get you through the door. It's what you do (work effort) after you get through it, that really makes a difference. Speaking from personal experience, I have a Master's degree and I rarely see anyone having higher than Bachelor's, and I've never seen it make any real difference.

     

    In research and education career path, it makes a difference what level of education you have achieved. But in a field like IT, experience of 2 years > education of 2 years.

     

    I would definitely give it my all in the initial 1-2 years as an individual and as a team player. I wanted to know is there scope to branch out towards a more managerial position in IT later(after 3-4 years) or will I be restricted to the technical side all my life without a MBA degree?

     

    @irock, getting a US visa is very tough now. Large companies will do only after 4-5 years of your work exp. Small companies won't even bother much. H1 is becoming very tough now due to lottery and for L1 you need minimum 3-4 years work exp.

     

    Best way to go about is to get into a Europe/Australia based project and look for onsite in that after 1-2 years. Those countries are easy when it comes to getting a work permit visa.

     

    Ah, thanks a lot for the heads up, I did not know it was so difficult to get a US visa now, most of the people I knew from IT working in Indian MNC went to USA quite a few years ago and have still not come back. Seeing them I thought maybe it was easy. I am not at all fussy about the location, I am happy to work in any developed country as long as I get a good quality of life there, that is my only motive. Infact Australia has been my top preference along with US always.

     

    Is getting a work visa for Australia/Europe considerably easier then US? In that case I would definitely take up a project from there. Like you mentioned my aim to land up there in about 2 years.

     

    +1

     

    The queue for US is just too damn high. Another problem, onsite eligibility here is decided mostly on the number of years spent. Doesn't matter if you've spent those years working or taking tea breaks, as long as the managers 'think' you work a lot. :P

     

    There are exceptions of course. If your work is really good, sooner or later they're bound to take notice. Better yet, if you can manage to create a reasonable amount of dependency on yourself.

     

    haha :P I will try my best to make sure my managers think i have worked a lot to deserve it :P

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    Nah guess I'll go with Gixxer..BTW thanks for suggesting me to try another bike before getting the Gixxer as my first bike..I followed what you said and borrowed a CB Trigger from my bro's friend since few months :D

    Good to know that you took the efforts to learn before buying and make roads a bit more safer. Gixxer is a great bike.

  11. When will Bajaj release the Pulsar 150NS?I went to the local showroom and they were clueless :fear1: It was about be released by July according to some sites.

    It's not even announced yet.

    Also would suggest to go for 200 ns or as instead, the engine refinement is much higher compared to pulsar std 150 and as 150

  12. You have two ways of going about it :

     

    1. Enroll in MS in US.This is by far the easiest route, and has inherent advantages such as easier H1, recognisable degree, etc. Major disadvantage is that you will have to invest a sizeable amount of money first (still, not as much as MBA)

    2. Get transferred ('onsite opportunity') in your existing job from India to US. This has financial advantages, and depending on your organisation+visa type, this could be the better option.

     

    With Indian MNCs like (read especially) TCS, you have a good chance of the latter. Just make it your focus, work towards it (join a project that has a US-based client) and it will happen eventually. Also, you will be better off with some work experience before you try for MS.

     

    Personal experience - It took me 8 years of working in IT in India before I managed to fly out, but in all fairness I'd never given it much serious effort or even thought for the first 5 years. So it took 3 years.

     

    The second option is exactly what i am thinking about doing right now especially since I don’t have crazy money (70-80l) on me. Get myself an onsite opportunity live in US and maybe then even leave TCS and join an American company. Like you said i will try my absolute best to get that onsite opportunity earlier atleast in 5 years.

     

    Also since you have been working so long in the IT industry may I ask how exactly do I move towards a more managerial side of things in an IT organization. Something like Project manager (if I am correct?) That’s always been my core interest, managing people.

  13. HR MBA in US is real pain, Finance is pain as well. Especially if you do not already have a good knowledge in this stuff. MS is a walk in the park. Perhaps consider giving MS a thought for this reason as well, unless until you are very particular on what you wanna do.

     

    If you don’t mind mate can you expand on why MBA HR is a pain in USA?. I coming from Engineering would have no previous knowledge in HR but I have huge interest in HR. infact I spent half my engineering college life organizing cultural/technical events in my college that was the best time of my college life. Seeing the sky high competition in India for good MBA colleges scares me a lot.

     

     

    The thing with MS is that i don’t have interest in it. I don’t want to spend two years more of my life studying something I have no interest in. I already did that for 4 years with engineering. Not that I regret doing Engineering but I see myself evolving into managerial side of things in IT organizations. (If I am correct Amazon/Flipkart want their managers to be engineers) Don’t want to dive further into core technology side of things.

     

     

    I can do it but I don’t particularly want to do it especially considering the amount of money I would be putting into (60-90 lac INR) something I don’t enjoy.

    Is choosing an MS for the sake of it, and looking for employment when he gets there an option for him guys?

     

    Exactly bro that is what I want to know, I can do it for the heck of doing it especially considering that it has been my lifelong dream to live in USA or Australia but I don’t think I would be happy with my life in that case.

  14. ^^ the easiest way to get a job abroad is to complete you MS (masters degree) in the country you wish to move to ! Otherwise, you need experience, at least 5-6 years of exp to compensate for lack of a masters !

     

    I have absolutly no interest in pursuing a MS, how about MBA in the country i wish to move to? will that help? in but i have heard MBA abroad is very costly esp in USA

  15. Thank you so much guys for replying, i really really appreciate you guys taking time out to reply to help me out.

     

     

    ^^ which stream are you in (c,c++,web, dbms etc )

     

    I am yet to join the company, i got placed in TCS through campus placements, i personally have more intrest in networking side of things so this is why i chose TCS ITIS(IT Infrastructure Services) with the ultimate aim of being promoted to Managrial side of things in IT.

    Is there scope in ITIS if i want to go abroad?

     

    Just be careful comparing Australian salaries - it is a veryyyyyyy expensive place. Plus they have crazy taxes. Compare savings if you have to.

     

    Yup she told me its very expensive living there but she stays there with her parents so she does not have to pay rent so she ends up saving a lot. Thats the part which makes me sad that she is living such a wonderful life without putting half as much efforts as me.

     

     

    As gramps said, it is about savings at the end of the day. And there are two ways to look at savings from salaries abroad - will you use those savings to settle down there itself or return to India (if latter, then it will definitely be a boost to your finances to spend a few years abroad and then return).

     

    You should compare costs as well.

    e.g. where I stay one has to pay around Rs. 1.3L a month on rent+internet+electricity.

    And cost of medical care are insanely high. A root canal treatment will cost you Rs. 2L, any major surgery might wipe out your savings.

     

    There are pros and cons. The definite plus of being in a developed country is the quality of life you experience during your time there. Rest depends on how much you get paid, and how much you save.

     

    Exactly, i asked myself what is the real reason that i want to shift abroad to a devloped country like USA and the real reason i want to is the quality of life there. I have spent 22 years of my life standin in BEST Buses, getting crushed in peak time Mumbai Local, i have not sat inside a car for 6 years now, and many more hardships all the while my 1st cousins (born and brought up in USA) have their own cars and drive it to school while still being teenagers.

     

    So i am primarly looking to settle there, quite a few of my friends have already gone to USA to persuie their MS but i have absolutly no intrest in persuing MS. I thought about doing a MBA in HR from there but my friends told me that MBA in USA is very costly and would cost me upwards of a crore INR which i cant afford.

     

    So i am back to square one and wanting to know how exactly can i find a job for there. I am totally willing to work there for a blit less then the average pay if i get a good quality of life.

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    If they launch it for 449$ in US that is already a direct conversion at 27k,be ready For a 27,999 price at the least if not 29,999

     

    And I dint understand the hoopla about they are using SD810 proc, probably the shitiest proc on earth for a flagship.

     

    I am hoping against hope that it may be launched at 400USD keeping my fingers crossed.

     

    I think the real reason that they are using 810 is that they might have got them really really cheap from qualcomm at throwaway price since they wanted to get rid of it.

  17. Just does not work exactly like that, and I think they did price it reasonably well for the first one

    Yup the first one was priced perfect, I just have a bad gut feeling that they will screw up the price this time, something north of 26k, I hope I am proved wrong on 27th
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    They have suspended DLC work for PC and working to fix it..You expect to suspend the DLC work for consoles as well...? Consolites will tear them apart..

    Like PC people have teared them apart yes, that will teach them a lesson to not treat gaming consumers as sh*t
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