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  2. The TV Decision Making Thread

    in General Chatter

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    11 hours ago, kold_war said:

    Ya if one company starts making mini led tv's...won't the rest follow?

    Yep, similar to how everyone suddenly has QLED models now.

    Lot of other factors at play with these TVs though, including the number of dimming zones. A low number might mean low quality, similar to a lower price FALD panel.
     

    Plus these locally manufactured TCL TVs are generally pretty bad quality. HDR doesn’t work and the picture quality is basic. Maybe they’ll improve things this year :/

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  4. The Xbox Series X|S thread

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    1 hour ago, Ne0 said:

    thanks, was so tempted to get the new xbox when it was in stock (for an hour?) in amazon just a couple of days back. 

    Couch gaming is tough when others in the house want to use the TV too, so prefer gaming in the privacy of my room these days !  Even my PS4 was hooked to my monitor earlier.


    Unless you get a couch for that room ;)

  5. Movie Discussion Thread Vol. 2

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    3 hours ago, Joe Cool said:

     

    Nobody is expecting Schindler's List. People been waiting for a long time for a "good/Marvel level at least" Superman/JL movies and we got none so far. Batman too if you exclude Nolan trilogy. 

     

    All hype only. 

     

    To be fair, Snyder only directed MoS. Nolan and David Goyer wrote and produced, so a lot of it was their Batman experiences carrying over - which is why WB wanted them on it in the first place.

  7. The Xbox Series X|S thread

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    1 hour ago, roun90 said:

     

     

    IMO The main problem here is not Hardware. It is directly competing services, adjustments and royalties.

     

    1) Sony has a direct competitor service to GPU called PS Now. They will first have to abandon it. 2 directly competing services cannot exist in the same HW, when that HW is the home field of one service (PS for PS Now and Xbox for GPU). Both can exist in neutral platforms like PC no problem.

     

    2) Even if somehow the above issue is sorted, and say Sony abandons PS Now, the very important issue of revenue sharing will remain. For example, say Sony takes 30% cut in game sales on PS. Now that game is added to GPU and GPU is allowed on PS. Sony and MS will have to work out a revenue model on that existing  30% share (Assuming MS Pays the cost of sales for GPU duration to the 3rd party devs). This will be a bit problematic. For example, if the game had been a direct purchase, Sony would have got the entire 30%. If the game had been a GPU purchase on Xbox or PC, the entire revenue would have been MS's. WHy would both agree to share and cut down the revenue instead of directly competing?

     

    3) The issue will be of control. Both Sony and MS run closed ecosystems. MS controls entire XBox and GPU. If Sony allowed GPU on PS, they would be ceding control of what software can come on PS to MS. Worse they will both be competing on the platform where Sony is supposed to be at home and be able to change as they see fit.

     

    This is why I think it's not possible for GPU to come to PS any time soon. @CarbonCore is right. Philosophy of MS will have to change for GPU to come to Sony and the 1st step for that will be MS going on as a full scale Software and Cloud Based Developer, abandoning HW. Something that is not possible ATM, since MS is doing quite well with XSX (Both are doing well for now, but true situation will come to light only when Stocks become so plentiful that there is excess supply compared to demand)

     

    1) So you're saying services of the same type can't co-exist? Netflix, Prime Video, Apple TV+, etc. are all on multiple owned platforms together. This is what I meant by the current state of these gaming services lacking maturity. It'll take some time to sort relationships out and for the public to really understand what's happening.

     

    2) Revenue sharing is tricky. I'm really interested in what happens with Epic vs. Apple. 30% seems extremely high, imho.

     

    3) Agreed. That's the current state, but that's because gaming-as-a-service isn't as mature as OTT, for instance. The Fire Sticks were super picky with app availability in the early days too, but a lot of that got sorted out in the end. Heck, they didn't even have YouTube because of beef with Google :D

     

    57 minutes ago, CarbonCore said:

     

    There's 100% traditional exclusivity policy with Bethesda games. Not having GP on other platforms has never stopped them from releasing games there when their HW business was tanking. Heck Forza 4 just came out on Steam 2 days ago, which is as foreign platform to MS as PS4. They have a new gen now and there's new hope, and they're ready to give up half a billion dollar worth of ES6 sales on PS5. Why? because they want you to buy the new Xbox.

     

    Exclusivity to the game pass app, while could (in theory, in future) be available on multiple platforms. Don't miss the finer details. Point taken on them releasing games on the PlayStation Store instead, but why would a for-profit company do that and share revenue? A parallel would be Netflix putting Stranger Things on other platforms. Why would you do that with your cash cow franchises?

     

    You make a fair point on Steam, though.

     

    And I agree with you on the near term goals being to try and sell more hardware. It'll take some time to get game pass adoption up (if it even happens to the degree they want it to). But those are near-term goals.

     

    The real end-game is to not be tied to hardware at all. Most companies think years ahead with strategy. And remember that just because MS is first off the block means they win. Kodak had digital cameras and Nokia had smart phones early on. Those didn't amount to much.

     

    1 hour ago, Pacifier said:

    @Keyofx 

    This is my main take away from Phils message.

    He said it would come to all devices with Game Pass, but also now started using the word "exclusive" more now.

     

    What ever happened to his words of gaming should belong to everyone and he is against the exclusivity.  If he really meant that before, they should continue to release all games on PS (for Retail price) and elsewhere on Game Pass. But nope.

     

    That was just used to sh*t on Sony for advertising "Exclusives" culture more

     

    It's a business decision, and how content in general in moving. It's why Blockbuster filed for bankruptcy, Netflix stopped selling mail-order rental DVDs, and everyone moved to streaming video over physical and software-as-a-service over buying boxed software at Target. Industries change. MS just took the first step here. 

     

    Again, these games are exclusive to game pass, not Xbox. In an ideal future world, you will be able to play these games on any device, just like you can watch Netflix or Apple TV+ on any device. This is future state, though.

  9. The Xbox Series X|S thread

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    Posted · Edited by Keyofx

    28 minutes ago, CarbonCore said:

    Sony and Nintendo will put GP on their system as soon as MS stops making hardware and stops being direct competitor. Until then it's not going to happen, because no matter how some guys downplay the importance of hardware install base, it is crucial to grow the sub numbers. We don't have the streaming tech yet where you can stream games on TV and toasters like Netflix and all you need is an app. 

     

    Also nothing's stopping MS from selling the games full price on PS/Switch while keeping the GP version exclusive to Xbox, they already did this with Outer World, Ori and Wasteland 3. But they won't do it again because they have pivoted again with exclusivity policy. Flip-floping between policies is nothing new for MS.

     

    I get your line of thought, but by that logic, you wouldn't have Netflix or Apple TV on a Fire Stick. Keep in mind Apple makes their own hardware.

     

    The OTT market is at least a year or two ahead of gaming as far as ecosystem maturity goes, mind you. They've had the time to work out some of the basic issues you bring up, but they did at least start taking some positive strides in the end.

     

    These evolutions aren't quick or easy, which is why we have the ongoing Epic litigation. This will evolve and play out the same way the OTT and SaaS battles have. Where the rubber will need to actually hit the road is when MS has to put up a Sony app on their store, just like they're nudging Sony and Nintendo to do now. I don't think they care either way at the moment, honestly. They're probably trying to hit TVs and mobile devices more than anything. That's an easier battle.

     

    Again, there is no *traditional* exclusivity policy, as much as Apple-produced shows such as Servant or For All Mankind are exclusive to Apple Devices. They are not. This is an old school of thought, and the world is moving on.

     

     

    Edit: And this is just me just clarifying the business angle. I own all devices and don't see the need to defend public corporations on the interweb. Unless they pay me :D

  10. Movie Discussion Thread Vol. 2

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    2 hours ago, gecko89 said:

    I probably fall in the minority but I've loved every one of his films, except Suckerpunch, that was just mediocre.

     

    So I'm cautious but optimistic for JL. 

     

    I loved Sucker Punch, lol. BvS was super mediocre though, which is kind of a bad sign considering JL is a direct follow up.

     

    I'd say his best works were probably Dawn of the Dead, Sucker Punch, Watchmen, and Man of Steel. Zak Snyder blu rays are excellent value as well, if anyone's interested. The man puts a lot of effort into curating excellent extra content.

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  11. The Xbox Series X|S thread

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    2 hours ago, CarbonCore said:

     

    There was an idea thrown around last year that MS doesn't care about HW sales, they're being the true visionary by thinking beyond hardware and going for software money. The Xbox HW sales were flopping hard when PS4 and Switch were setting new records, so people (including couple of guys here) were like "but they don't care about hardware you guys". In that sense it made sense to put big games on as many platforms as possible. Now they did a 180 (again) and be like "haha nope".

     

    Sorry, this isn't true. It's more nuanced than that. What they're saying is that all games will be available on all platforms that have game pass (from what I remember quickly reading yesterday).

     

    What people here need to realize is that the world has moved on to content-as-a-service models of delivery that are platform agnostic. Think Netflix or Apple TV available on every platform imaginable, or Office 365 on the App Store. Some platform holders still try to block apps or try and maintain other forms of control, though (HBO Max not being universally available is just one example). So, in theory, if the PlayStation and Nintendo app store allowed Game Pass in, there's no reason why subscribers couldn't play all Xbox games without actually owning an Xbox. This is the end game.

     

    2 hours ago, gecko89 said:

    MS has done so many 180s over the past 10years that I don't think they know which direction they're facing now.

    Joke Drums GIF by Bax Music

     

    Uh, cool?

  14. The Playstation 5 thread

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    7 hours ago, roun90 said:

     

    The fact that they had put in an actual physical PS2 in there just for BC was mind-blowing. Too bad people did not appreciate BC then and Sony gave it up (Though for some reason people are shouting BC now). Always appreciate good BC.

     

    BC is always a funny thing. People are very vocal about it online, but the actual usage numbers might not back it up. That must be why MS has mostly given up on it too, and they pumped a LOT of money in and gave it sufficient time to show results.

  15. Spider-Man: Miles Morales

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    14 hours ago, AtheK said:

    What an average game, except some cool moves using venom, just feels like playing spiderman all over again. Even the setpiece are so meh, spiderman was so much more fun. Loved the load times though, felt truly next gen. 

     

    Kinda felt the same way, man. Too much of the same thing, even though it’s short. The fights at the end of game were crazy annoying.

     

    Stick with it for the story. Not as good as the first, but it’s alright.

  20. The TV Decision Making Thread

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    14 minutes ago, Aercy said:

    Not surprised that people are going for the same highly acclaimed TV around the world.

     

    Thanks! 1.18L after cashback. Paid for the 4th year extended warrenty. He was pushing for 5 years but I am pretty sure I'll be looking for a change after 4-4.5 years of use.

     

    1.18 is a bargain. Congrats!

     

    And smart thinking factoring the next change in. My pre-OLED 55" LED lasted me exactly 4.5 years before I got the itch.

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