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Good for you, I couldn't watch saw after 3, too gory [emoji36]Saw series is so dope! Wonder what happened to saw 8.
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I've said "their" inner circle, meaning their friends/relatives/acquaintances....The term inner circle has largely been used in the context of the privileged and affluent. You should use reconsider your choice of words otherwise someone might misunderstand your intentions. Remember, English isn't our first language.
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IMO, one of the reasons that nepotism is so rampant in bollywood (or the indian film industry in general), is the lack of credible options for film makers to scout for talent. Movies are not really considered an art form to pursue like music or painting. So there're not any reputed colleges / institues per se, where one can pursue a degree in movie making like Engineering / Medicine. There are some film institutes in India, but not of the caliber or reputation of say IITs or NITs. Even though Indians enjoy movies, most families still consider being in the movie industry a taboo and scoff at people associated with it. Especially for girls aspiring to be part of the movie industry, I would imagine the situation to be even worse. On the other hand, the movie industry is not yet well run / managed as other industries , due to which there're still claims of rampant abuse/sexual harassment. I remember reading a "making of" book on sholay where the stunt director (who was imported from the west) was aghast at the lack of safety precautions used while shooting action scenes in India. Things may have improved now, but still, on the whole, if you see the movie industry is still ages behind when it comes to organizational culture and values compared to other established industries like IT or manufacturing. Believe it or not, in one of the interviews, one of the leading actresses claimed that the concept of contract came into existence in the movie industry only recently and until the 90s most actors/actresses used to work on word of mouth (not really sure how serious she was) !
Considering all the above, the best option for the filmmakers currently would be to actually pursue someone who can "get" them, who've already been around them, who've enough exposure to the do's and dont's of the industry etc., and the best place to look for them would be inside their inner circle !
But I see things to be changing. For ex: many actresses are former supermodels / ms. india etc, who are not related to the filmi families (ex: deepika, katrina kaif etc). I think , with the influx of reality TV, many singers/musicians are coming up as well (sunidhi chauhan, mona thakur etc) who're not related to film industry. Slowly things are gonna change in other aspects of film-making too, it would take time though !
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Watching rowdy rathore on smax. This and singham I can watch it any number of times without getting bored ! Perfect escapist/guilty pleasure movies for a lazy afternoon !
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I'm sure he would've liked just her and didn't give a damn about her role [emoji14]This is the first time I'm hearing someone liked Tamannaah role
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Indian Lady at Immigration counter in NY airport.
Officer: Pls write your husband's full name in the form.
Lady: But his name - MADANLAL DARSHANLAL CHAUDHARY - is too long to fit in this small space. What should I do?
Officer: Ok just put his initials.
Lady writes: Ma Dar Chaud.
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90% of the movie is the backstory, which gave little to no room for the events /characters from the prequel to have any continuity. This is also my main gripe with the movie(as I've said repeatedly here lol). They should've had a proper third part to address this or should've extended it by another 20 mins atleast. It's like literally the son comes and finishes off everything in under 10 mins ! The sense and scale of the mighty kingdom comes crashing down when a peasant with a bunch of ragtag villagers takes it down in a jiffy !Tammana was my 2nd favorite part of the first movie
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Yeah I also think Batista does it better. Rock has good screen presence but I don't think he can pull off comedy like Batista.
Also my colleague saw Bahubali 2 last night and he said it was almost like a comedy movie and thought that 3 hours of his life were wasted
I didn't ask much but he said some ship starts flying or something like that? Is that true?
Your colleague is clearly exaggerating. Did he happen to mention that the flying ship is in a dream sequence ? It's part of a song actually. It's not my movie of the year or anything but i wouldn't call it a waste of 3 hours. It could've been better with a shorter backstory and tighter narration.
But, if you didn't like the prequel, doubt if you'll like this either. It's more of everything the first one offered (more heroism, more gfx) - except for tamanna , she's has a blink and you miss role, lol
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Saw this movie Sweet Novermber just for Charlize Theron..........Ek Penelope Cruz aur ek yeh ladkhi ....dono ne aaj tak deewana kar diya.....what a beauty......waise abhi tak Kuwari hai...
As for movie ...it was decent...i was watching for her .....
sweet november is an awful film , i can't believe you even sat through that. I dozed off almost twice in between !
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I've heard this excuse before but that doesn't mean there's no room for people who do want to enjoy a meaningful, thoughtful film. Both types of movies can coexist like in Hollywood but so far that has yet to happen.
there are though provoking films made in india like udta punjab, haider and many other in southern languages (shuddhi, urvi etc - both kannada which released recently).... just that their audience is limited and they don't see so much of news as the blockbusters involving popular stars.
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This. So much. Similar reason why Indian movies still have songs/dance as compared to movies from rest of the world !99% people in the world, not just indian people. Also, what is garbage to you, isn't garbage for others. Correct word to use is masala or commercial movies.
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Because your character was literally naked and all the time I kept looking over my shoulders entire time to see if any of my family members were there or coming ....my attention was there instead of in the game...which why i avoided paying with you next time.....
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In terms of difficulty, IMO. If we count all bosses including DLC and optional bosses.
DeS>BB>DaS2>DaS3>DaS1.
I think people who are generally good at hack and slash games like Bayo/DMC etc might find BB easier than the Souls series.
I suck at hack n slash games .... but i found BB to be much more accessible and easier than DS. Maybe because BB has the most rewarding health recovery and the fastest stamina among the rest. IMO, Nioh really beats the pants of BB when it comes to difficulty, the initial difficulty curve in that game is ridiculous .... you are vulnerable to almost anything , even a swipe from a lowly crawling yokai can stagger you and take away like 25% of your health Even at level 40, the red demon yokai can OHK me if I don't dodge his axe swings wtf
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Yeah, apparently I lack critical thinking :-/Lol are you still at it..
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Here's a master list of logical fallacies. Now are you seriously going to tell everyone that an elitist put this list together?
Do you even realize that before you used the word elitist to describe me, you could've accused me of brow-beating everyone. But that went out the window the second you decided to compare me to an elitist. Where exactly are you going with this discussion?!!
Everyone does have the right put forth their opinion. I've repeatedly said that the Baahubali movies offers a refreshing, magical experience and they have universal appeal.
You went from this...
to this...
Still think i'm an elitist?
Why did you even include the word elitist? Where are you taking this discussion?
Using your logic i should be asking you where's the point in one elitist calling out another elitist for being a bigger elitist?
You thought i was jumping across topics? I didn't think it was important to highlight that the South Indian cinema industry isn't free of nepotism, elitism, etc. because it's a well known fact. Why even bring it up? But even if i did bring it up it still doesn't change the fact that Bollywood, though being is a far far bigger industry with unlimited resources and a massive network, hasn't produced an epic like Baahubali because they've typecast their superstars into metrosexual roles.
And just because you write that i cannot comprehend what everyone else writes doesn't mean that i lack comprehension
This is how the discussion started. To use your logic against you, why is it that you never stopped the discussion then?
Maybe you should quit reverse arguing for the sake of it.
all this because some of us think story/narration in bb2 is not upto the mark (or the movie didn't meet my expectations I had as compared to bb1) ? Clearly, in your own words, either either you lack critical thinking (which you keep confessing to repeatedly) or you've idle time on your hands and you are using it to just troll us !
I still stick to my views on the movie that its a visual masterpiece which could've had better story / narration / conclusion ! But, you can choose to stay in your bubble and go on correcting your presumed grave mistakes/ logical fallacies being committed on the forum. Either ways, I'm out of this discussion .... adios
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EoT was one of the most underrated sci-fi movies .... and one of my top favs in the time travel genre .... but did it really need a sequel ? Hmmm.....
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I felt a need to restrain certain members from unfairly criticizing the movie solely on the basis of the narrative style because there does not exist a suitable yardstick to judge the Baahubali movies on that single aspect. I felt i had to do my best to make them realize their mistake, accomplishing which would prevent them from committing the same logical fallacy in the future.
Please speak for yourself, maybe you lack critical thinking and comprehension. The above post completely reeks of elitism on your behalf. Before you conclude that someone made a mistake, why not introspect yourself and see that perhaps it's you who is failing repeatedly to understand the basic fact that movies are a personal experience and everyone has a right to put forth their opinion. It's one thing to disagree, and another thing to shove your thinking down others throats.
It does need a fair amount of in-depth study. I said Indians (which includes myself too) in general lack critical thinking. I am Indian you know.
Where have i implied in the above line that someone isn't intelligent?
How does elitist fit in to the discussion we've had so far? Feel free to unrelentingly bash in Karan Johars' head with words like nepotism and elitism hoping that it will change him. Spare my lil'old head!
I said this earlier and i'll say it again. Nepotism and elitism are the least of your problems up North where everyone is crying for change!
Do you even comprehend what others write ? What has karan johar / bollwyood got to do with our discussion on bb review ? You talk of problems in bollywood, and when I highlighted similar problems down in south film industry, you just diverted the topic. Now you again bring it up ? Man, first decide what you want to debate upon. Don't just keep jumping across topics.
BTW, making a sweeping comment saying all Indians lack critical thinking is being both elitist and a snob. If all Indians lacked it, perhaps they wouldn't be leading / managing plum roles in fortune 500 companies across the world. So again, speak for yourself, don't impose your views (or lack thereof) on others !
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I never said it was a flawless movie. I just didn't know how to go about judging a movie like Baahubali. Only a professional film critic/journalist with decades of experience is capable of critically analysing the Baahubali movies.
This is now getting funny
From bollywood bashing -> lacking critical thinking , the debate is taking quite a lot of turns lol !BB is not some murder case that needs professionals to judge. Underneath all that visuals/graphics lies a very common brothers' fight saga which has been done to death in the past. What BB did was to package this common story in a visually appealing presentation that was better than any we've seen so far in Indian cinema. And being from south india, I've seen many movies in 60s-70s which had fantasy setting (bhairava dweepam , Patalabhairavi, mayura (kannada) and many others which I can't recollect now.
Note that, I'm not trying to take away the director's hard work or putting it down in any way. It's still a very well made movie and rightly deserves all the applause it's been receiving. But it does have shortcomings (all movies do), and to call anyone who points out them as "lacking critical thinking , not intelligent etc, unfit to review" is just being elitist !
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I did read that post and I made note of the first line. However, I couldn't understand your criticism, i.e., couldn't relate to your opinion where you felt that the war in the second movie was unbelievable compared to the tribal/kingdom war in the first movie. I understand that even a fantasy movie has limits but i still can't relate to your criticism.
No worries. Like i said before movies are subjective / personal experience. BB has its fair share of flaws and by no means its perfect - and it's my opinion. If you think it's the next best thing since sliced bread, that's fine too as that's just your opinion.
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Even I think the story / narration in the second movie was flawed as compared to the first. There was hardly any character development of bhallaldeva or Tamanna. Movie spent way too much time in the flashback story and the ending was heavily rushed. Many story arcs like the sudeep's one from the first movie etc, did not even make it to second.
IMO, the movie could've easily cut short the extended romance between prabhas/anushka, the unnecessary pindari storyline could've been easily done away with (which adds little to no substance to the overarching story line) .... they should've ended the flashback before intermission and focused on how bahubali wins back his kingdom .... i mean come on, it's like one of the biggest kingdoms of it's time with one of the largest armies under its command and it's easily taken over by a guy with a bunch of villagers ? Just compare it with the tribals/kingdom war from the first movie and it feels rushed / unbelievable even for a fantasy setting !
Just my opinion though, don't flame me
I did enjoy the visuals and the character of anushka shetty (was really refreshing to see a stand-up person among all the stereotypical yes mens) , but the story just did not meet my expectations !Here you go, compare the highlighted text. Also, please do read what others have to say clearly before you start putting forth your view !
Can you quote that post in your reply please?
The average movie-goer is entitled their personal, subjective opinion. But when it comes to professional reviews than there needs to consistency. Most professional reviewers filter out logical fallacies when judging a movie. Otherwise they lose credibility.
I would've been comparing the Baahubali movies to Schindler's List or Citizen Kane only if it fell in the same genre. Which it doesn't!
I've repeatedly praised the movie for it's refreshing, universal appeal and for providing a magical experience.
Movies like Schindler's List and Citizen Kane achieved critical acclaim over the years after a number of deep, intense studies by film journalists/critics. Instead of shooting down the Baahubali franchise so early on (the Tandava dance is a perfect example) give credible Indian film journalists and critics some time to study the franchise and its impact.
I'm no professional movie reviewer, nor have I anywhere made such claim. This is a forum which I frequent and I'm putting forth my opinion based on what I felt after watching the movie. Like I said before I'm neither defending any industry nor am I offending any. I'm just stating my opinion on a movie I watched and nothing more !
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It's not constructive to criticize the story and narration in a movie without a proper frame of comparison. At least try pitting it against Asoka which falls in the same genre(s) as Baahubali.
I disagree. If you have read my post again, I've clearly compared it to the prequel in multiple areas.
Anyway , you simply fail to understand that movie is a personal / subjective experience. Most people might be just happy to just go along with such scenes , but I'm not. When I go to a movie , I've certain expectations from it, when it feels to meet it, I just express my dissatisfaction. I even explained on how the movie could've been made better. And its not just me. There were other people (some of them whose first language is telugu even) who said that the movie felt really OTT compared to the first. If you take it in the spirit in which it is said, it is constructive. If you just close your eyes and shut out every criticism then obviously nothing is constructive !
Also, the way you put it, you make it as a 'schindlers list' or 'citizen kane' lol. BB is a technological benchmark for Indian cinema at present, no doubt about that. But no way, I would even consider it among my top ten movies !
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I never expected you to give the franchise a free pass. All i wanted was for you and everyone else involved to engage in constructive criticism.
Please show me one comment of mine which was not constructive. Everywhere I've told that the story/narration could've been better as compared to the first. I even mentioned specific narratives in the story which (in my opinion) could've enhanced the experience even more. If that's not being constructive, I don't know what is !
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I know i won't. Because since after watching the sequel, i've watched Baahubali: The Beginning twice already. And i think the OTT emotions you've pointed out are perfectly suited to an Indian epic. Rajamouli and his team made Baahubali for an Indian audience first. A large majority of the same audience whose exposure to Indian cinema is largely limited to Indian soaps. So can you blame Rajamouli and the actors for overplaying emotions in the Baahubali movies? Just because you and i criticize Indian movies doesn't mean that we or our views represent that of the majority of the Indian audience.
The thing is, unlike you I'm not on a crusade to defend it at all costs. Is it a good film ? Yes ! Is it perfect ? Definitely, No !
From your comments, it looks like you see this movie as some sort of a beacon or some kind of southern cinema coming of age or something , but I view it as just another movie. I don't really care whom the movie was targeted at, but as a viewer I found it lacking when it came to story and narration. You can disagree with me, but to expect me to give it a free pass just because you THINK it's perfect is ridiculous.
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This Damn Heat
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Rained yesterday as well
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