dante77 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/07/12/why...er-needs-a-360/ Here at TSA we like to think we’re an open-minded bunch of guys. We don’t really have any particular ties to any one system apart from the obvious fact that we like talking about the PS3 on the site – we’re certainly not official in terms of PlayStation reporting and there’s nothing stopping us flicking a switch one day that means we’re now able to start writing about other consoles. Naturally, most of our readership are PS3 fans, so we’ll always concentrate on making sure you guys are getting the most out of your big black box, but we’re far from fanboys, so here’s the first in a series of sideways looks at the competition: the Xbox 360. For some reason, the playground rivalry that existed when I was a kid – the ZX Spectrum vs the Commodore 64 – is still thriving, but the advent of the internet has meant that instead of scrapping on the hopskotch chalk we’re slinging insults from the safety of our keyboard. Whilst the Wii enjoys a slightly off-kilter fanbase that doesn’t concern itself with the goings-on in the wonderful world of HD gaming, the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 fanbases are often entirely mutually exclusive, and for all the wrong reasons. Here’s the bit that might shock you: I personally don’t have a preference for either console, and here’s why I think you shouldn’t either. Exclusive Games The battle for exclusives is something that all console manufacturers spend a good deal of time and money on, and whilst we’ve covered the major PS3 exclusives in detail over the last two years – Warhawk, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, WipEout et al, it’s worth mentioning that fanboy blinkers aside, the 360 has just as many exclusives as Sony’s platform, and mostly in the same genres. For starters, I’m of the opinion that the Forza series is just as interesting as Polyphony’s flagship racing sim – yes, it’s not as visually impressive and the handling is slightly more arcade, but Sony has yet to prove itself online (GT5P’s online is a joke) and Forza 2’s customisation is utterly insane, not to mention a working trading system and a comprehensive set of vehicles. And then there’s the classics: Halo and Gears of War. Whatever the Sony fanboys might think of these two titles, the first Halo set a groundbreaking precedence for quality and apart from Goldeneye on the N64 still stands proud as the most innovative first person shooter ever created. A massive fanbase means that there’ll always be people online and whilst it’s typical to assume that the multiplayer is full of racist, facist kids, with friends, Halo 3 is wonderful. Gears of War, too, defined the 360’s formulative years and whilst the sequel upped the spectacle and visual fidelity both games are best enjoyed as a pair as the single player campaign continues straight through. Online in Epic’s third person shooter is as hardcore as it comes, as well. Better Multiformat Titles A lot of recent multiformat games have turned out better on the PS3: Burnout Paradise being the shining example of what developers can do with a solid grasp of the hardware, but for the most part resolution, texture quality and framerate is often better on the 360 version – the recent Sony Europe exclusive Ghostbusters was a particular sore point for PS3 owners. This isn’t just pixel counters and forum dwellers by any stretch, the aesthetic differences between both HD consoles can be quite startling at times and to be continuously fed second rate ports is discouraging and frustrating to say the least. And then there’s the install times. I won’t call out any third parties in particular here, but some developers are clearly struggling with the Blu-ray drive and annoyingly, even after a 15 minute initial install and 5 GIG stolen from your hard drive, the PS3 versions still load slower. We all know the Blu-ray drive is tricky to get the most out of but why PS3 gamers should still suffer once the game is installed we’ve no idea – and that’s without mentioning the fact that 99% of 360 games can now be installed completely to the hard drive meaning once you’ve popped in the disk to verify you own the game, that’s it, and load times are massively improved further. Live Arcade I love the PlayStation Store, it’s finally coming into its stride with some recent killer titles and the promise of later titles like Fat Princess are nice bullet points for Sony, but the 360’s Live Arcade blows it out of the water sometimes. The purchase of Rare might have seemed odd at the time, but once Perfect Dark lands on XBLA, alongside stablemates like Banjo Kazooie, that initial outlay will start to pay for itself even if full releases like Nuts and Bolts didn’t quite set the sales charts alight. This week sees the release of Monkey Island, a fantastic HD remake of the SCUMM classic, and that’s not to mention other killer retro titles like Rez, Sensible Soccer, Ikaruga – the list goes on. It’s not just old games on the Arcade, either, and whilst the exclusive downloads for the 360 don’t always hold up alongside the quality of those on the PSN, Xbox owners are pretty much guaranteed at least one new title every Wednesday and often get two – and everything on there comes with a demo – everything – and normally comes out a day or two before it does on the PlayStation Store. Finally, innovative experiments like the Community Games label are interesting for amateur devs like myself and the recent release of coding application Kodu was an absolute delight. Conclusion We’ve been round and round about the pricing of the PS3 recently, and when you can pick up an Xbox 360 Arcade with a game for £130 it’s not hard to see where the likes of Activision are coming from when they are pushing for a price cut. Yes, we all know the PS3 can play Blu-rays, comes with wi-fi and the controller doesn’t need batteries, but try exploring that to Joe Public. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve wanted to step in when listening to a potential console buyer talking to sales staff in GAME, but it’s not my job to bullet point the differences between the two machines. Besides, most end up buying a Wii anyway. But this is all academic to our readership, because we assume most of you have a PS3 anyway I post it b4 MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 YAY!! so true the article is full of win.. jim sterling stamped. jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The JACKAL Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 hmmm . interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 we need it as much as we need genital warts. kthxbai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 we need it as much as we need genital warts. kthxbai true That guy totally missing out about exclusives like God of War 3 and Killzone 2 and classics like MGS4 is just so funny. Besides he conveniently leaves out mentioning the dough that 360 players pay each year to be able to spend time playing online. After reading the whole article, the best line that stands out is - "Here’s the bit that might shock you: I personally don’t have a preference for either console, and here’s why I think you shouldn’t either." that was the most PHAIL line ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 ^ That's not a FAIL line. That's how the gamers should behave IMO. A good game is a good game, platform is almost irrelevant. Would you start hating MGS4 if it's developed for Xbox? It can be a bad port or a better port, but that's a different matter altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3AST KILL4 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 get both consoles if you can afford.......................and plz stop comparing.every console has its pro's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameer Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 ps3 has better exclusive titles imo... undf2, mgs4, gt5,kz2 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HundredProofSam Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I don't agree. Not every PS3 owner needs to buy a 360, in the same way that not every 360 owner needs to buy a PS3. The genres that the 360 excels in most are shooters and RPGs, while the PS3 has better action games, platformers and racing games. If like me you don't particularly like RPGs or shooters, you don't need a 360, and if platformers and racing games aren't for you, the number of appealing titles on the PS3 dwindles down substantially. Unless you're a gaming enthusiast, there are few reasons to own both consoles, and not every PS3 owner is a gaming enthusiast peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 ^ That's not a FAIL line. That's how the gamers should behave IMO. A good game is a good game, platform is almost irrelevant. Would you start hating MGS4 if it's developed for Xbox? It can be a bad port or a better port, but that's a different matter altogether. No, no , you've misunderstood what I meant. The Fail line in that is that part where he says he has no preference for either console. I should have made that clearer. I like stuff on the Xbox too - I think the Halo and Gears of War series were awesome games and I know I've missed a bit in not playing Halo 3. I'm just taking a dig at the way that guy writes the article and the way he says he isn't supporting any one console (its most obvious he is), not at the last part of that line. Edit: And yes there are people like me content with a PS3 and a decent PC to game on. I don't think I need a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I don't agree. Not every PS3 owner needs to buy a 360, in the same way that not every 360 owner needs to buy a PS3. The genres that the 360 excels in most are shooters and RPGs, while the PS3 has better action games, platformers and racing games. If like me you don't particularly like RPGs or shooters, you don't need a 360, and if platformers and racing games aren't for you, the number of appealing titles on the PS3 dwindles down substantially. Unless you're a gaming enthusiast, there are few reasons to own both consoles, and not every PS3 owner is a gaming enthusiast peace and you take this article seriously agree btw last xbox was known for FPS and RPGs while PS2 always known for its awesome action adventure and platformers my favourite genres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 PS3="The Complete Package" (But expensive)360="The Console That can be Modded" (& where i can play gears of war) for me EXACTLY, for 360 GeOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 don't worry....it's not that great specially when u can't play on live coz of a modded console...& it's not worth geting a 360 just for gears of war... Agreed, but the day there's a mod out for the PS3...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulovski Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 The genres that the 360 excels in most are shooters and RPGs, while the PS3 has better action games, platformers and racing games. If like me you don't particularly like RPGs or shooters, you don't need a 360, and if platformers and racing games aren't for you, the number of appealing titles on the PS3 dwindles down substantially. agreed - my RPG tastes are satisfied with the 360, and for the rest of the genres, there's enough decent games to give the occasional fix. and that's still the main reason I don't have the PS3 (apart from the moolahs). the PS3 comes when I build my entertainment centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 ps3 has better exclusive titles imo...undf2, mgs4, gt5,kz2 etc its not undf2 its UC2AT now @gra - I dont think it will ever happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 ^^ I know i know it won't. Thats why i finally went and bought a PS3 a few weeks back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 PS3 has better action games, platformers and racing games. peace how is that ? PS3 has GT and MS, but X360 has forza and PGR. And most of the multi-plat racing games play quite well on X360. And the controller of the X360 is better suited for racing games than the ds3 or sixaxis :| I don't think you would be disappointed with X360 if you are a racing fan (unless you are a ps fanboy too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 how is that ? PS3 has GT and MS, but X360 has forza and PGR. And most of the multi-plat racing games play quite well on X360. And the controller of the X360 is better suited for racing games than the ds3 or sixaxis :| I don't think you would be disappointed with X360 if you are a racing fan (unless you are a ps fanboy too ) please dont start again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 please dont start again What did I start ? This forum is for discussion, as long as you keep it civil, its ok. Every argument need not end with personal insults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HundredProofSam Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 how is that ? PS3 has GT and MS, but X360 has forza and PGR. And most of the multi-plat racing games play quite well on X360. And the controller of the X360 is better suited for racing games than the ds3 or sixaxis :| I don't think you would be disappointed with X360 if you are a racing fan (unless you are a ps fanboy too ) The 360 had PGR. Forza now remains the only reason for a racing fan with a PS3 to want to buy a 360. Don't bring controllers into the equation; it's highly subjective. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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