Madhav Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Tsonga.. betich*d forehands and serve o_0 btw one thing i have noticed, fedrer is amongst the most sore losers i have seen, people harp about his nice guy image... bollocks, just see when he loses a match, goes all cold and lukewarm congratulation to his opponent. I am not saying its bad to be a sore loser (lord knows i am one) but it does not sit well with the gentleman aura that his worshippers have created. A stark contrast to nadal.. one of the most humble fella on court. wha....?? yu expect someone to jump up n down when one loses.... how should one react after a loss...?? what do others do differently... ?? I've seen rafa, nole, murray just walk out after the defeat... yu cant expect a losing person to smile n cheered up after a loss, especially if that person was gunning for the championship... every person gets gutted after such a defeat.. if he would have been cold, then he would have just left the court after the defeat like most losing opponents do... Yet, he was humble in defeat and waited for Tsonga and left together.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersim Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 what madhav said nemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 He definitely waited, but his post match press conferences aren't exactly humble. After he lost at the French,he said that he dictates the shots against Rafa and only if he, federer, makes a mistake, Rafa wins a point. :-/ Yeah, that happened a lot then. 17 times out of 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Rafa has an inflammation of his tendon. The injury he picked up on Monday. It's not cured, so he is using anaesthetic that lasts 5-6 hours. So there is no pain, but slight discomfort. Man his body is creaking!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekdown Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 The style that Nadal plays puts pressure on his ankles. He doesnt have a long career. 2-3 years more, unless he changes his style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 The style that Nadal plays puts pressure on his ankles. He doesnt have a long career. 2-3 years more, unless he changes his style. True... But, that is what makes him Nadal... He is what he is because of his shot-making along with his agility... He changes that, & he is Nadal no more we know now!! His knees, ankles, tendons,etc take a huge toll!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) I think he may call it a day at 28-29. He's already achieved enough and is one of the greatest. Seeing the depth of today's top 5, I'd reckon Rafa wins 2-3 more slams and closes it at 13. Like Madhav said, his lower body requires a hell of treatment and medication for him to be in playing shape. Of course, if he gets his US Open 2010 form back any year in the future, he would be unbeatable! Federer and Rafa have achieved more than anyone the past decade. The two are so far ahead of anyone whose on the tour today. Roger is still playing very well. Unfortunate today against the frenchman. And full credit to Roger for keeping his health. He's in top form even today at 29. No injuries, very good health. Its just his sublime and intelligent game. I reckon Roger will play 2 more years at the very least. He can easily do that. Edited June 29, 2011 by Death Stryke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Madhav Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think he may call it a day at 28-29. He's already achieved enough and is one of the greatest. Seeing the depth of today's top 5, I'd reckon Rafa wins 2-3 more slams and closes it at 13. Like Madhav said, his lower body requires a hell of treatment and medication for him to be in playing shape. Of course, if he gets his US Open 2010 form back any year in the future, he would be unbeatable! Federer and Rafa have achieved more than anyone the past decade. The two are so far ahead of anyone whose on the tour today. Roger is still playing very well. Unfortunate today against the frenchman. And full credit to Roger for keeping his health. He's in top form even today at 29. No injuries, very good health. Its just his sublime and intelligent game. I reckon Roger will play 2 more years at the very least. He can easily do that. It'll be sad if Nadal calls it a day at 28... Nadal can easily surpass Federer's trophy tally in his current avatar... & I bow down to Federer's fitness.... If Im not wrong, he has played almost every grandslam since the past 9-10 years.. I think he is looking for one more Wimbledon and one more US/French... But with his fitness, he can easily keep on going for another 3-4years!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) I read an article on how the game and courts have changed and become so slower. No more of those serve fests we used to see from Sampras and Rafter etc in the 90s. I was watching an old 1998 or 1997 match of Sampras on ESPN the other day. Man, the rallies were hardly 4-5 shots. Most was just missiles sent by pete and the opponent moving from side to side. Apparently this caused lot of viewership to plummet and spectators got bored of it :S. I have no idea how they got bored, but to see Pistol Pete play was a treat to the eyes. So, the ITF and ATP guys have deliberately slowed down all the courts, almost made carpet courts irrelevant, modified the balls etc to suit the slower game so as to increase rallies and keep the interest of spectators. I personally think long rallies are good as the player can clevely and patiently construct the point for himself and after each shot int he rally, the crowd is more tense and immersed in the game. Although, a counter argument could be that everyone grinds today. Except maybe the Americans with their monster serves, rest just grind it out. Edited June 29, 2011 by Death Stryke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) It'll be sad if Nadal calls it a day at 28... Nadal can easily surpass Federer's trophy tally in his current avatar... & I bow down to Federer's fitness.... If Im not wrong, he has played almost every grandslam since the past 9-10 years.. I think he is looking for one more Wimbledon and one more US/French... But with his fitness, he can easily keep on going for another 3-4years!! Yes, healthwise he should be good as his game never looks tiring, but about winning? cant say anything today. Thing is, the top 10 in 2006-2007 when Fed was dominant and winning 3 slams a year was nothing compared to the top 10 today. Its too tough, the top 4 are equally good and its just a matter of luck and the odd 1-2 points that turn the game to the other's favour. it was all Nadal and Federer for the past 6 years but now, you cant say anything frankly. Look at Tsonga and Delpo. They've sorted their injuries out and are genuine threats. Its too competitive today compared to what it was 3-4 years back. Not that i'm taking any credit away from Federer for his wins, but its just what it is. The window of opportunity for winning slams today is getting smaller and smaller. Not just for him, but for any of the top 4. Coz everyone is playing good on every surface today and no one player has an edge on any surface ('cept Rafa on clay). So its wide open and frankly I feel it makes for more interesting tennis Edited June 29, 2011 by Death Stryke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I read an article on how the game and courts have changed and become so slower. No more of those serve fests we used to see from Sampras and Rafter etc in the 90s. I was watching an old 1998 or 1997 match of Sampras on ESPN the other day. Man, the rallies were hardly 4-5 shots. Most was just missiles sent by pete and the opponent moving from side to side. Apparently this caused lot of viewership to plummet and spectators got bored of it :S. I have no idea how they got bored, but to see Pistol Pete play was a treat to the eyes. So, the ITF and ATP guys have deliberately slowed down all the courts, almost made carpet courts irrelevant, modified the balls etc to suit the slower game so as to increase rallies and keep the interest of spectators. I personally think long rallies are good as the player can clevely and patiently construct the point for himself and after each shot int he rally, the crowd is more tense and immersed in the game. Although, a counter argument could be that everyone grinds today. Except maybe the Americans with their monster serves, rest just grind it out. Oh yeah... Sampras was a treat to the eyes... and so was his and Agassi's rivalry in which Sampras was a genuine no.1 and Agassi a no.2... I used to love Sampras play and when he was defeated by FedEx in 2001 Wimbledon, I knew I found my new hero!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 All that remains to be seen is how serious his foot injury is. This aint clay, where his game is miles apart everyone else's. On Grass, Murray, Novak and Roger are stronger than they are on clay so anything short of 100% will mean no silverware for Rafa this year. Rafa has picked up his game so well outside of clay in the last 4 years. His style of extremely physical play, extraordinary reach, his attitude on court even his mannerisms, that scowl on his face and his fist pump..he's just too good a player. An inspiration for me. Tsonga.. betich*d forehands and serve o_0 btw one thing i have noticed, fedrer is amongst the most sore losers i have seen, people harp about his nice guy image... bollocks, just see when he loses a match, goes all cold and lukewarm congratulation to his opponent. I am not saying its bad to be a sore loser (lord knows i am one) but it does not sit well with the gentleman aura that his worshippers have created. A stark contrast to nadal.. one of the most humble fella on court. Yeah. He doesn't know how to behave like a champ. Non gracious in the face of competition. I missed all the matches today, was out playing myself. FCUK. The style that Nadal plays puts pressure on his ankles. He doesnt have a long career. 2-3 years more, unless he changes his style. Nah. I think he'll take it. Endurance, he's got some. I read an article on how the game and courts have changed and become so slower. No more of those serve fests we used to see from Sampras and Rafter etc in the 90s. I was watching an old 1998 or 1997 match of Sampras on ESPN the other day. Man, the rallies were hardly 4-5 shots. Most was just missiles sent by pete and the opponent moving from side to side. Apparently this caused lot of viewership to plummet and spectators got bored of it :S. I have no idea how they got bored, but to see Pistol Pete play was a treat to the eyes. So, the ITF and ATP guys have deliberately slowed down all the courts, almost made carpet courts irrelevant, modified the balls etc to suit the slower game so as to increase rallies and keep the interest of spectators. I personally think long rallies are good as the player can clevely and patiently construct the point for himself and after each shot int he rally, the crowd is more tense and immersed in the game. Although, a counter argument could be that everyone grinds today. Except maybe the Americans with their monster serves, rest just grind it out. That's just coz brawn has started ruling all sport now. People want to see much more physical spectacles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithuvien Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Tsonga.. betich*d forehands and serve o_0 btw one thing i have noticed, fedrer is amongst the most sore losers i have seen, people harp about his nice guy image... bollocks, just see when he loses a match, goes all cold and lukewarm congratulation to his opponent. I am not saying its bad to be a sore loser (lord knows i am one) but it does not sit well with the gentleman aura that his worshippers have created. A stark contrast to nadal.. one of the most humble fella on court. How true. Every time Nadal loses, he picks up his guitar and starts singing an ode to the winner .. now that s a true champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Yea Lith, nice try. Body language is one of the most telling forms of communication. Fed gets sore everytime. It's like after all the years of competition-less wins has rendered him impotent. He just can't take the heat. More than that, he can't believe that he's losing to the people he's losing to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithuvien Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 He does not like losing and it shows in his body language .. agreed! But he also said that Tsonga played a fantastic match. I dont think that is the mark of a sore loser. Just the other day the wimbledon site was full of people calling Nadal a poor sportsman for " starting and ending every conversation about his injuries". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Yea Lith, nice try. Body language is one of the most telling forms of communication. Fed gets sore everytime. It's like after all the years of competition-less wins has rendered him impotent. He just can't take the heat. More than that, he can't believe that he's losing to the people he's losing to. What the hell is wrong with yu guys... Yu all are practically comparing Nadal and Federer on the bases of their loser faces?? Pathetic... Every person is different.. How on earth is a losing opponent suppose to look like other than being disgruntled.. joker keeps breaking his rackets after a point loss but thats ok...Federer loses his smile and seems low after a match loss, boo Federer!?! Ridiculous... Its ok to idolize Nadal but its stupid to think that anything that is not like him is being a sore loser!! True Fanboys ya'll are sounding like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 He does not like losing and it shows in his body language .. agreed! Bro nobody likes to lose and every person who loses, be it Nadal, Sampras, Agassi, Rafter, etc, body language drops, facial expression goes dull... So, there's nothing that needs to be agreed upon about Federer's body language when he loses..!! Anybody who has played a sport and lost knows what I'm talking about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithuvien Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I know that. But people here seem to find the very thought of showing unhappiness on losing a crime worthy of capital punishment. And you should have read the 2nd statement I made Anyway .. Tsonga Tsonga beat the Serb Pound his face into the dirt COme on Murray beat Nadal Kar do uska Haal Behaal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I think this opinion about Roger has risen after his post match interviews. After his loss to Rafa in Paris, he said that he is the one who dictates shots against Rafa and only if he makes a mistake that Rafa wins a point. Pretty arrogant IMO Yesterday wasn't that bad but he said that I played a good game and I'm happy that it needed a very special performance to beat me. I mean yes that's true of course, but do u go around saying that. One time last year or in 2009 during Novaks low phase with Todd Martin as coach,, he said Novak has forgotten how to play tennis. Not the right words to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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