Shantz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I seriously doubt Google's cloud applications. Nothing has been a major success so far (Docs anyone?). Wave might succeed, though chrome OS will not be successful IMO. Google sees everything as a web page. How compatible it will be with a variety of hardware with jus a year left for launch is doubtful. And gmail has suffered multiple outages this year. I dont know how you can rely on cloud based OS completely. You would need a hybrid at the very least. Oh and netbooks are failing. It is just a fad!. Windows 7 runs brilliantly across all configurations. MS has a winner here with this OS Few points.. Not saying that chrome OS will fail or not, but just some facts or other points: 1. It is not meant to be compatible with a huge variety of hardware (though it can easily achieve that as the linux kernel already has the widest hardware support).. but they will keep it limited.. If you want to put it on your own device which is unsupported in official build, you will have to spin your own..Basically it is not meant to be sold as an OS, but as a complete device.. 2. Cloud based OS is definitely a question mark. But they allow use of USB drives which has a good balance of price/size till around 32GB mark and will fall even further. Plus they are looking at google gears for offline as well.. 3. Netbooks are failing because they are just mini notebooks in the garb of a netbook. Chrome OS devices are supposed to be the real netbooks with low/cheap pricepoints and doing only what a netbook is supposed to do, nothing more. Which makes it attractive and a viable seller in the segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashishnk Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ne1 got an invite ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ne1 got an invite ?? PM me your gmail id.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ^^ That's all fine and dandy. But as long as they r only targeting a small cut of the "low cost notebook" pie, its alright. Even if its just meant for laptops below the 400-300 USD mark, mass adoption is highly doubtful. Gears or no gears, at the end of the day, there is always some need of being connected to the internet (I believe?). That was the major -ve point for me. But I hope Chrome evolves to a full fledged OS in due course of time. Right now, this OS concept is too ahead of its time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ^^ That's all fine and dandy. But as long as they r only targeting a small cut of the "low cost notebook" pie, its alright. Even if its just meant for laptops below the 400-300 USD mark, mass adoption is highly doubtful. It is not meant for low cost "notebook". It is meant for the actual definition of a "netbook" or internet device. And the price point will be much lower as told as of now. Gears or no gears, at the end of the day, there is always some need of being connected to the internet (I believe?). That was the major -ve point for me. But I hope Chrome evolves to a full fledged OS in due course of time. Right now, this OS concept is too ahead of its time. Yes, there is a need for the internet, because it is supposed to be an internet device. As I said, current netbooks are just mini laptops, these are not laptop replacements.. these would be actual internet devices, always on devices like kitchen computers or something or when you travel..etc. maybe it doesn't make much sense in terms of third world countries but for rest it does.. (For third world as well though it could be used by a looot of people..) Edit: BTW, it will never "evolve" into a full-fledged OS.. Its primary basis is to get away from that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ^Yea thats why I said where it evolves we dont know. It all depends on Google though, how they take it forward, but google's marketing strategies for its products like Android and Chrome OS baffles me. Its not like only the manufacturer who adopts the OS only has the responsibility of properly marketing it to the right segment. At this rate, only techies and people abreast with latest technologies will ever adopt anything Chrome OS. Take apple for instance, its market share is still in single digits I believe, but its still doubled and tripled over the last few years and has carved a niche for itself in the AV sector. And as for the marketing, u know very well how they market each and every product they release. Maybe they dont have the monetary or human resources like MS or Apple. edit: Yea here in the 3rd world, unless our internet connectivity and wireless options improve, I dont see this OS doing well. The backbone for the OS to function has to be strong. Like u said, only a handful of people might adopt it as a secondary or tertiary device. Business environments are sticking to XP even now, let alone Win 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ^Yea thats why I said where it evolves we dont know. It all depends on Google though, how they take it forward, but google's marketing strategies for its products like Android and Chrome OS baffles me. Its not like only the manufacturer who adopts the OS only has the responsibility of properly marketing it to the right segment. At this rate, only techies and people abreast with latest technologies will ever adopt anything Chrome OS. Take apple for instance, its market share is still in single digits I believe, but its still doubled and tripled over the last few years and has carved a niche for itself in the AV sector. And as for the marketing, u know very well how they market each and every product they release. Maybe they dont have the monetary or human resources like MS or Apple. actually google has a slightly different take on marketing.. they don't go all guns blazing to this..Infact, you can see (or might not see) android doing extremely well without even 1% of marketing effort from google.. every mobile company is in a race to get android onto their platforms (not just cellphones but so many myriad of devices that it is making me go and also and at the thought of supporting all of them)..And these devices are selling well as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 edit: Yea here in the 3rd world, unless our internet connectivity and wireless options improve, I dont see this OS doing well. The backbone for the OS to function has to be strong. Like u said, only a handful of people might adopt it as a secondary or tertiary device. Business environments are sticking to XP even now, let alone Win 7! Yes, it will always be a secondary\tertiary device for us but such devices have a lot of fad in the west and enough of a market opportunity to profit from. Business environs have a different concern though..They will keep sticking to anything they have working until they can't safely work with it anymore. This is not just true for windows but linux as well. Many companies with older linux projects still stick to RHEL4 FFS. EDIT: BTW, I just thought of this.. Maybe chrome OS can also be like the "instant-on" or "fast OS" kind of things that motherboard manufactures are giving these days.. People just boot up chrome in a jiffy for normal use and switch to main OS for heavy duty work... Now, chrome's roadmap doesn't have this use but surely could become one given its open source nature and enterprising users trying to eek out the maximum from it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Forget RHEL4, how the hell are some of the biggest banks still sticking with COBOL?!?! . Is it that good? Isn't infosys's finacle something better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Forget RHEL4, how the hell are some of the biggest banks still sticking with COBOL?!?! . Is it that good? Isn't infosys's finacle something better? It's not about being good..It's about not fixing what is not broken.. They don't want to move because it is a huge expense and on top of that a HUUUUUUGE risk..most of my friends who work on mainframes work on cobol, lol.. I pity them but it is here to stay for quite some time still..Banks are slowly trying to move away though, but that slowly is slower than a baby snail's sleep walking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashishnk Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 PM me your gmail id.. hey, thankz but this wave ppl sent me a invite...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man In The Box Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 So what do you guys think about wave? I think it is pretty okay but does not seem very appealing. BTW, reply here if anyone wants invites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 got 8 invites guys... hit me up if anyone needs one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Google Wave wipes out Google's Wave has crashed to shore as the internet giant announced today it would pull the plug on the Australian-developed tool that once promised a radically different approach to electronic messaging. Wave combines email and instant messaging in a way that fosters the sharing of rich content such as documents, maps, images and video and has attracted a small number of loyal followers around the world. Urs Hölzle, a senior vice president of operations at Google said in a blog post today "Wave has not seen the user adoption we would have liked. We don't plan to continue developing Wave as a standalone product, but we will maintain the site at least through the end of the year and extend the technology for use in other Google projects." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man In The Box Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not surprised ... Wave really was a big flop and was definitely not anything great. I stopped using it after an hour of getting an invite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Doesn't Google Docs already support the whole real-time thing that Wave supports where you can see what someone else is typing? I thought I'd seen it on a friend's machine when he was doing an interview for a candidate once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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