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A good read (a few excerpts from the article):

 

http://www.tvpredictions.com/2007/10/blu-r...is-winning.html

 

1. Neither side is selling well. Quite frankly, the sales numbers from both formats remain pathetic. This may be a war with no winner. A lot of fuss was made by Warner about the sales of 300 reaching 300,000 combined on both formats. One problem, the DVD sold several millions. Quite a difference.

 

2. The real war is High Definition media vs. DVD. With sales of a disc on either format being a small percentage of their DVD counterpart, it is clear that the public does not see enough of a benefit to either format to pay the extra cost. The public is very happy with the quality of DVD on their HD sets. The difference between HD and BD and DVD on sets under 50 inches is not all that great and not enough to get people to spend exorbitant amounts of money for the players and the discs. With upconverting players available for well under $100 and new releases available on DVD for $13.99 and catalogue titles for under $10.00, most people do not see the need for players over $200 and discs priced at $34.99 and up. Why spend $34.99 for the new Fantastic Four BD disc when the DVD can be had for $14.99? For most consumers, that is a no brainer.

 

6. Sony may win the format war but at what cost? Sony’s gaming division is already suffering huge losses due to the PS3. While the PS3 has helped give BD the edge, although not much of one, the high cost of the players and lack of games has made it a loser in the console wars, which is much more important than the home theater market. HD media will be obsolete due to downloads long before the gaming market moves on to some other form of distribution.

 

10. Despite the claims of technical superiority from the BDA, both camps can produce outstanding looking and sounding products. With the VC-1 and AVC codecs, the BD capacity advantage is not much of one at all in the real world. Nor is the higher bitrate encodes possible on BD as evidenced by the recent Nature’s Journey disc reviewed here.

 

 

 

 

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Let us keep our games and consoles aside for a while.

 

Let us look at what the rest of the world thinks about this format war. After all we are neither american nor japanese, so why get emotional. We, Indian buyers, deserve the best out of our hard earned money.

 

Theoritical Limit.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray...ion-s-division/

 

 

 

Why BLU will win.

http://www.gearlog.com/2006/12/why_bluray_will_win.php

 

 

BLU the winner.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showAr...cleID=175803712

 

 

BLU has already won.

http://gizmodo.com/archives/bluray-has-alr...-won-023974.php

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As Vinit posted yesterday, the HD format wars are meaningless at the moment because standard DVDs outsell the next gen formats by an embarassing margin. Admittedly, the offtake of HD format players has also been slow and if not for the PS3, Blu Ray would probably be trailing HD-DVD (kudos to Sony on that move).

 

But we cant actually draw parallels to the Betamax / VHS war because at that time they were competing to be the standard for home video where no prior affordable standard existed at all. In the current HD wars, consumers have the choice of the best selling format of all time in the form of the standard DVD which still provides great picture quality thanks to DVD-9, and is comparable to the HD formats on smaller screens which the majority of the world is currently using.

 

My final cent: It will take another 5 years before the HD battle starts to shake itself down and by then a new, superior format will hog eyeballs. There are already three competing formats being developed for Ultra High Definition Video (7,680 × 4,320) and movies are today being shot at this resolution before being downscaled to HD resolutions. This will give you taste : Wikipedia

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^^ Exactly. Current HD formats are still not comparable to Ultra Hi-Def video. One of my clients from my previous job runs the largest chain of theatres in India and is converting all them to digital theatres in a staggered manner. I had the chance to see actual UHDV video being played out. It was a music video. I nearly passed out at the quality. It was the most wonderous thing I've ever seen in video and I kept pestering him to see if he could get his hands on the Star Wars Ep 1-3 digital masters.

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In the next 5 yrs huh...

mean time we shell out our money on exclusive movies on either hd-dvd or br and end up being the losers when a better format appears.

When is this cycle gonna end :cry5:

I know it happened with the launch of the dvd, but i hope the studios or whoever's responsible for this come up with a better deal for the us the consumers, because i'd hate to have a movie in multiple formats.

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^^ Exactly. Current HD formats are still not comparable to Ultra Hi-Def video. One of my clients from my previous job runs the largest chain of theatres in India and is converting all them to digital theatres in a staggered manner. I had the chance to see actual UHDV video being played out. It was a music video. I nearly passed out at the quality. It was the most wonderous thing I've ever seen in video and I kept pestering him to see if he could get his hands on the Star Wars Ep 1-3 digital masters.

 

 

i don't think this is gonna be a consumer tech per se - at least not for the foreseeable future. 720p is considered good enough for displays under 40inches. resolutions of 7680×4320 would only make sense for giant screens (cinemas, stadiums, etc)

 

 

 

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Some would argue that even 1080 is overkill for current display sizes. But believe you me, once you see UHDV, you'll cry even even with 1080. And I dont think its too far away. Trust manufacturers to shove the tech down our throats as soon as they can build the equipment cheap.

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