achilles Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 List of Nokia phones I've owned: 5210 (waterproof, unbreakable etc.) 3250 (rotator keys) 7210 N-Gage QD 7650 7610 3650 N70 M N73 M N91 6681 Out of these the only two phones which I felt had decent build quality were 7650, or the first camera phone and 6681. Though I totally concede that none of these break easily but that's a feature of the material used to build them. Nokia flew in a time when software did not matter for a phone, at least a lot less than it does today. I know how every second month a new flagship phone used to come out with different hardware and slightly tweaked software. S60 was good for it's time but it had sucky applications which though useful and functional weren't that easy or fun to use. Infact most apps were a chore to use, including and especially the web browser. S60 itself started sucking from its 3rd edition when the N series started coming out. S60 had become a bloated, unstable piece of crap. I totally remember the last phone I owned before the iPhone and that was the N72 M. Great camera but I remember how I hated to use the phone. It used to crash, the battery wasn't that great and it had some issues with the headset. There was no good way to install apps right on the phone, there was no app store/marketplace/storefront etc. Their PC sync software sucked. I'm not even sure if it was available for the Mac. Anyway I digress. Nokia did a bunch of things right but build quality wasn't one of them. It may have stood out coz the others were even more craptacular. The only two phones which I've felt had solid build quality were the 8800 metal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Screw this build quality thing. The primary and most important thing is the OS which we use. And as of today, WP7 is far from best. FYI, the lumia is built fairly well. Sturdy polycarbonate body. Doesn't feel cheap. Well designed too. I think one of the best designed phones after the iP4S. If only the 4S were cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I totally remember the last phone I owned before the iPhone and that was the N72 M. Great camera but I remember how I hated to use the phone. It used to crash, the battery wasn't that great and it had some issues with the headset. Wow, I used its elder brother N70 which has almost the same specs (absence of front cam on N72 IIRC), and it NEVER CRASHED for me. And I played ngage games on it FFS, which were not even made for N70. I bet you filled up the phone memory to the brim and forgot to end the multiple apps running in background (which still wont crash the phone, as N70 and N72 had 24 mb of free RAM, which was way more than what was needed for Symbian OS 8.1, the 6600, 6681, 7610, 6630 etc had 8-9 MB of free RAM and they crashed if multiple apps were left opened, the OS 9 phones never crashed thanks to over 80 MB free RAM, an absolute overkill for Symbian) People don't know how to use a phone properly and crib around that it crashes a lot. iPhone really is the best phone for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man In The Box Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Repped ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zeehunter Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Tango update is coming in Q2 2012 It will allow Windowsphone 7 to work on lower end phones with 256 MB Ram As it is targeted at lower end segment , there is a high possibilty of Bluetooth File Transfer .. Rumours say it .. Nothing is confirmed yet While on the other hand , Multi core support SD card support Higher resolutions NFC support will come with Apollo update in Q4 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 K lets stop trolling about Symbian and old irrelevant Nokias here. Kthxbi!! Today, i used 4th and Mayor, an unofficial 4sq app. And this is probably the one GOOD WP app i've used so far. Performs superbly. Fluid and fast like the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 SD support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Wow, I used its elder brother N70 which has almost the same specs (absence of front cam on N72 IIRC), and it NEVER CRASHED for me. And I played ngage games on it FFS, which were not even made for N70. I bet you filled up the phone memory to the brim and forgot to end the multiple apps running in background (which still wont crash the phone, as N70 and N72 had 24 mb of free RAM, which was way more than what was needed for Symbian OS 8.1, the 6600, 6681, 7610, 6630 etc had 8-9 MB of free RAM and they crashed if multiple apps were left opened, the OS 9 phones never crashed thanks to over 80 MB free RAM, an absolute overkill for Symbian) People don't know how to use a phone properly and crib around that it crashes a lot. iPhone really is the best phone for you. I like that 'using wrong' thing. Is that how you came to be? Nokia 6681 was the most stable phone for me and S60 second edition remains the most stable, feature rich and trouble free version of Symbian. Anyway, if more people like you were enlightened on "how to use" the phones maybe Nokia wouldn't be dying right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 SD support Could be for the tablet and/or ultrabooks form factor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I like that 'using wrong' thing. Is that how you came to be? Nokia 6681 was the most stable phone for me and S60 second edition remains the most stable, feature rich and trouble free version of Symbian. Anyway, if more people like you were enlightened on "how to use" the phones maybe Nokia wouldn't be dying right about now. yeah.. I never really liked Symbian as well. It was clunky and unusable even 7-8 years back. WM was miles better at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Nokia 6681 was the most stable phone for me and S60 second edition remains the most stable, feature rich and trouble free version of Symbian The N72 had the same stable, feature rich and trouble free version of Symbian, i.e S60 2nd edition (the differences between S60 8.0a and 8.1 were minimal). I have no idea how a 8MB RAM phone was more stable for you than a 24 MB RAM one, both using same OS, unless you are confused between the model numbers. Anyway, if more people like you were enlightened on "how to use" the phones maybe Nokia wouldn't be dying right about now. What can I say, very small number of people use common sense. Common sense is not common at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 By SD card support I meant external card support .. It could be micro SD or some other proprietary card if MS is evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Could be for the tablet and/or ultrabooks form factor.. Tablets are gonna use Windows 8 not Apollo which is upgrade of Win Pho 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 The N72 had the same stable, feature rich and trouble free version of Symbian, i.e S60 2nd edition (the differences between S60 8.0a and 8.1 were minimal). I have no idea how a 8MB RAM phone was more stable for you than a 24 MB RAM one, both using same OS, unless you are confused between the model numbers. Yeah, if only RAM was the factor to all world stability. Even a small thing as a different camera sensor can cause instability, if the software is not made to accommodate it properly. I thought that was common sense. Maybe not. The N-Gage QD ran an otherwise stable version of Symbian but on that phone it was buggy as sh*t. Even legit games loaded on the memory card caused exception errors and something as rudimentary as the dialer app won't open unless the OS was reinstalled. Also, N72 M had the third edition of Symbian, I'm pretty sure. Edit just checked on Wikipedia, I had the N73 M. The N 73 M had S60v3. So I was a bit confused. What can I say, very small number of people use common sense. Common sense is not common at all. Sure. Keep telling yourself that while you try to pat yourself on the back for being able to 'figure out' how to use sh*t phones. I'm sure people like you are totally not the reason RIM, Nokia, Motorola and others are gasping. It's just "users without common sense" are to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 okok, u guys realize you are arguing over a prehistoric dead OS now Frankly, I liked S40 phones better than Symbian. I never liked symbian even during its 6600 and N series days. It performed like sh*t. Each phone was a clone of the last. They were terriblt slow. I remember composing and sending SMSes used to be so slow in them and it took ages to open stuff. I had a Nokia 6300 for 2-3 years till the time i bought the iPhone 3G. Never understood the hype for Symbian. Nokia S40, at its time, was fairly good feature phone OS and it still is. As Shantz said, WM was a lot better smartphone OS in its time. Symbian was just utter tripe. Anyway, lets end it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 You obviously have no common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Edit just checked on Wikipedia, I had the N73 M. The N 73 M had S60v3. So I was a bit confused Aaha. The N73 M. I wont blame you. I had my doubts about the model number, and I was sure this was the phone which you had. It was really a buggy phone. It sold sh*tloads, but the S60v3 required lot more RAM. It had only 20 MB free RAM, which resulted in random crashes and hangs. Nokia later shipped all OS 9.0/9.1 phones with 40-50 MB+ RAMS, and they never crashed. I had to school my roomie about handling the N73, else he would have thrown that phone away due to Memory Full errors. Yeah, if only RAM was the factor to all world stability. Even a small thing as a different camera sensor can cause instability, if the software is not made to accommodate it properly. I thought that was common sense. Maybe not. In case of Symbian, RAM was THE factor. A common n00b user wont realize this, but even opening of camera and music player consumed RAM, and running them in background (pressing red button wont close the apps, and clueless users would be running plethora of apps in background)and trying to open ngage games etc would cause problems. Thats why I said, N70/72 and later phones, barring N73, never faced any problems. In fact, the BEST Ngage gaming device was N70/72, thanks to its RAM. The OS 9 lost the ability to play ngage 1.0 games. Nokia obviously didn't handle their devices better. Informing users about small things like managing apps, using task managers, giving in built task killers would have helped them a lot. Symbian was just utter tripe I could play GBA, GB, NES, Megadrive, games on my N70, N82 could play Quake 3 Arena, I could switch telephone towers which had better download speeds, I could watch .avi, .mpeg movies on my mobile, I cant even remember the amount of media formats supported. There are so many features of Symbians which are not known to people, that its not even funny. WM didn't have anything like this. The HTC phones were joke when compared to Symbian phones. Sad cameras, mono sound output, just yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Man, speaking of companies circling the drain. Every single company is suffering losses in billions these days. Only Google, Apple, Nokia, MS, Samsung have made decent profits. Sony 4 billion loss in 2011. Motorola similar. LG, HTC also murky outlook. Canon is losing money, Kodak is dead. Wow, wonder how the future looks. Converging devices offered by Apple, Google, Microsoft etc are killing standalones offered by Canon, Sony, LG and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 @ SZ I actually did throw mine a couple of times and very badly too, but thanks to the 'build quality' it survived Also, I sold it 6 months later for 10k, that was a 12k loss, in 6 months !! But then I got the iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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