godspeed4476 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Surface for 28k its M$ not micromax it will at least 35k maybe more but definitely not less OMG! So iPad 3 at 30K was trying to compete with Micromax 3 the whole time. That's a news, let me add a to it. Pricing the Surface above 31-32K would mean MS has failed in the Indian market before their launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaka_messi Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STdndpgIGK8 win8 thanks Okami bhai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yeah even i was looking to avoid it, i dont like the 1st gen products, but if its anything over 27K i am gonna decide between this and a Win Pho and if its anything greater than 29K then am gonna skip it completely. Agree with you on the other tablets pricing, they are far overpriced in the market esp when there is iPad 3 available for 30K. If MS prices it over that price point, then i think they are screwed, atleast in India, not that the market is very important to them. I'd say if you really don't need it, wait for Surface 2.0. I know I might get flamed for it, but in many videos popping i'm seeing sluggins operation while opening apps and Ms Office (which is its selling point). Not blaming MS here, for a 1.0 release its massively good and different and MS is just getting 20-30% of the credit it deserves. But i'd say get a proper Win8 hybrid. Baadmei jump into Windows RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 OMG! So iPad 3 at 30K was trying to compete with Micromax 3 the whole time. That's a news, let me add a to it. Pricing the Surface above 31-32K would mean MS has failed in the Indian market before their launch. dude you are awesonme at diverting a topic By 'its M$ and not micromax' means its is not micromax (or cheap china ones) which would price it that low. When was I comparing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 dude you are awesonme at diverting a topic By 'its M$ and not micromax' means its is not micromax (or cheap china ones) which would price it that low. When was I comparing? Hmmm, since you missed the obvious point. Let me put it in a simple way. Companies can price the product low to penetrate the market, which is the reason behind low price on entry level iPad 3 and the iPad 2 is even cheaper. Also 28 k by no means is a low price, the Micromax and Chinese tabs max out on 15 k, that is low. If MS prices it anything above the price of iPad 3, then they have tough times to face in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'd say if you really don't need it, wait for Surface 2.0. I know I might get flamed for it, but in many videos popping i'm seeing sluggins operation while opening apps and Ms Office (which is its selling point). Not blaming MS here, for a 1.0 release its massively good and different and MS is just getting 20-30% of the credit it deserves. But i'd say get a proper Win8 hybrid. Baadmei jump into Windows RT +100 The problem is coz Windows RT doesn't support latest ARM processors yet Therefore MS had to go with Tegra 3 and other OEMs are going with Qualcomm's S3 .. Windows RT will start supporting latest proccys in 2-3 months So by the time Surface 2 comes MS can easily put Full HD screen in RT variant too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'd say if you really don't need it, wait for Surface 2.0. I know I might get flamed for it, but in many videos popping i'm seeing sluggins operation while opening apps and Ms Office (which is its selling point). Not blaming MS here, for a 1.0 release its massively good and different and MS is just getting 20-30% of the credit it deserves. But i'd say get a proper Win8 hybrid. Baadmei jump into Windows RT Yeah, tht was my original plan, to wait for 2.0, but I thought may be I can buy the surface and skip buying the win 8pho. May be it will be best to wait for a couple of months and then buy the win pho on price drop. That way I won't even have to sell the iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yeah, those full fledged office apps needs more powerful processors seems like. Still RT is not a biggie now. It'll stumble a bit, fall a bit before maturing. Takes time. WP8 I feel is more important than RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Hmmm, since you missed the obvious point. Let me put it in a simple way. Companies can price the product low to penetrate the market, which is the reason behind low price on entry level iPad 3 and the iPad 2 is even cheaper. Also 28 k by no means is a low price, the Micromax and Chinese tabs max out on 15 k, that is low. If MS prices it anything above the price of iPad 3, then they have tough times to face in India. WTF? dude, we are not even talking on the same f**king topic. When the f**k did I say that 30k is cheap? Ok, lets just not talk about it, looks like you are high and in a mood for discussion. I am not. Sorry :| and yeah, M$ need luck of dhoni to sell their product at 30k+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 WTF? dude, we are not even talking on the same f**king topic. When the f**k did I say that 30k is cheap? Ok, lets just not talk about it, looks like you are high and in a mood for discussion. I am not. Sorry :| and yeah, M$ need luck of dhoni to sell their product at 30k+ Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Seeing the swearing It seems Dante you are the one who is drunk .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 So, let me get this straight. The only reason the RT supports 'desktop' mode is so that it could run Office? Is there any other reason that I'm missing? I guess they thought they could put a real differentiator by including Office but doesn't seem like the best idea to me. They could have made it a lot better by not worrying about the desktop mode and coming out with new versions of Office Metro style. Also, is this the first time office is coming bundled with any hardware for free? That's a pretty huge deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I said the same thing. They need to have gone ahead and removed desktop mode completely from RT. I am surprised in 2-3 years time the office team at Microsoft couldn't make a decent Metro Office app designed for touch. Like i said ealier, doens't need 100% office functions. Just most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Speaking of the non-RT, usual Win 8, why couldn't they give an option of having start button in Desktop mode, and also an option to make the Desktop mode the primary mode, when third party software are now accomplishing this thing easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Speaking of the non-RT, usual Win 8, why couldn't they give an option of having start button in Desktop mode, and also an option to make the Desktop mode the primary mode, when third party software are now accomplishing this thing easily? I guess if they had provided start button then most people would have avoided the metro UI altogether, or it might be the case of MS thinking of the entire metro UI as start button itself. I thought it would be very problematic to switch between modes constantly, however it's quite ok and the search functions works better in metro as compared to win 7 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Just an option(a hidden one for the more geeky people) would be fine. Or they should add it after a month or two, so that people get time to get accustomed to the new UI, and those who don't like it even then can go back to their good old desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Just an option(a hidden one for the more geeky people) would be fine. Or they should add it after a month or two, so that people get time to get accustomed to the new UI, and those who don't like it even then can go back to their good old desktop. Yeah getting back that button would be nice. But ny guess is that MS won't take a step back, also it would create a question of keyboard mapping, for instance right now the windows key is used for switching between desktop and metro interface, if a start button is added and win key is allocated for start button, MS would again risk putting metro ui on ignore, it's a very small issue but can make an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man In The Box Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 though the BSOD has a diff screen now This pic you can see the message clearly, in my case i could make jackshit, it was too small and hazy Hmm. I got that message in Windows 8 Release Preview a lot of times. Hopefully, it won't happen much in the original version for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I said the same thing. They need to have gone ahead and removed desktop mode completely from RT. I am surprised in 2-3 years time the office team at Microsoft couldn't make a decent Metro Office app designed for touch. Like i said ealier, doens't need 100% office functions. Just most of it. I really don't get it. You can't install legacy apps. You can only install apps off of the App Store and nowhere else and if they really couldn't modify Office enough, they're still providing the Touch cover, right? So let Office be launched off the Start screen in Metro mode and customers can use the cover, any of them to navigate office. What else does the Desktop mode do? It's like they built an Aston and decided to stick their old trailer to it just so you could bake cookies while travelling 'in style'. It's baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 What else does the Desktop mode do? It's like they built an Aston and decided to stick their old trailer to it just so you could bake cookies while travelling 'in style'. I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that Surface RT tabs do have USB ports where you can stick a flash drive in or SD card ports. Maybe you can move stuff to desktop, start explorer from Desktop mode etc. Even though older Windows apps can't be installed that doesn't mean you can't use Explorer or copy files. Also read this - http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2012/10/28/4-things-you-probably-dont-know-about-microsofts-surface-rt/ They should have made a Metro office version though. It would have been nice but they probably didn't want to remove any features from the standard desktop version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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