Aftrunner Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Here is the thing. If its between a 5770 or a GTX 260 then get the 5770 with your eyes closed. Even if the performance is lower than the 260 by 10% it has better future proofing. If you plan on waiting until there is more stuff to choose from at a more sensible price then buy something cheaper (a 4850 or GTS250) for 6-7k and wait for a year or so. Thats my plan anyway. I will stick with the GTS 250 until Q2 2011 and then evaluate the situation. It kinda helps that about 80% of big PC titles are Xbox ports and the Xbox is a 5 year old system so any card from the last year onwards will pretty much play every AAA game maxxed out. Edit Just as an example, over the past couple of weeks I have played UT3, Mass effect 2, Stalker CS all at 1400X900 (which is my native resolution as well) at maximum details and Crysis Warhead and BF BC2 at 720p (again at maximum details) and all those games run fine. Infact I am dead certain the full version of BC2 (which should be better optimised than the Beta) will easily runt at my native res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 So which one would you suggest to play the current games upto the next year at 1440x900 resolution (19" monitor) ? Bro on catalyst 10.1 5770 does better gtx 260.not to mention how easy it is to overclock to 1400mhz.also less power constmption. Do not buy a dx 10 card above 7000 as it wll be diff to sell. On erodov one guy offered gtx 280 in exchange of 5770 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hmmm, so looks like 5770 is the way to go. Alright, since its a difference of just 3k, I'll go with it and if required can think of upgrading in 2012 (when there'll be dx12 ) Will intel P55 mobo support crossfire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hmmm, so looks like 5770 is the way to go. Alright, since its a difference of just 3k, I'll go with it and if required can think of upgrading in 2012 (when there'll be dx12 )Will intel P55 mobo support crossfire ? Yes p55 does support crossfire. Go for gigabyte p55ud2 @6000 or msi gd65@9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushy Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 no 50k, just 40k and i'll save on games yeah babay111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted February 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Yes p55 does support crossfire. Go for gigabyte p55ud2 @6000 or msi gd65@9000 What about intel original DH55TC motherboard ? Is that recommended over gigabyte and msi ? I've been quoted 5.8k for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted February 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 ok guys, here's the quote I received: Intel Core I 5 750 Processor 10,100.00 Intel Original Mother board 55 TC 5,500.00 Transcend 4GB DDr3 RAM 5,900.00 Graphics card - ATI 5770 10250 Seagate 500GB HDD 2,550.00 Corsair VX 550 Watts 4,700.00 Cabinet - VIP - 1000.00 Logitech Wireless Desktop MK250 1,645.00 Let me know if this is reasonable ? Or is there any component that can be changed to reduce the price. I'm planning to order this week, so let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfrag Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Don't go for Intel motherboards. They don't have any overclocking capability. Also.. I fear for your components in that cabby. Get a Coolermaster atleast. I had REALLY bad times with VIP and Zebby cabbies.(low end). The high end Zebbies are decent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushy Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 yep...i regret grabbing intel DG31PR....no OC at all and i have a Quad Core proccy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 What about intel original DH55TC motherboard ? Is that recommended over gigabyte and msi ? I've been quoted 5.8k for that. Go for gigabyte or asus they use best components,there boards have great layout,overclocking,not to mention support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 ^^ I hardly overclock any of my components. Atleast until now. So apart from that, any other problem with intel mobos ? Asus would be costly, Gigabyte - are you referring to P55MUD2 ? Or which model ? And how is Cooler Master 310 then ? Or if you have any other cabby do recommend. Should be under 2k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 ^^ I hardly overclock any of my components. Atleast until now. So apart from that, any other problem with intel mobos ?Asus would be costly, Gigabyte - are you referring to P55MUD2 ? Or which model ? And how is Cooler Master 310 then ? Or if you have any other cabby do recommend. Should be under 2k. Even if i do not overclock i would be getting gigabyte just for quality and durability it user ultra durable 3 technology.also cm is good enouph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memnom Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Welcome to the age old question. AMD vs Intel. But since you mentioned those two words "long run" i suggest you stick to the Intel. Its definitively better than the AMD option, Since AV Enc/Dec comes into play its better to have every ounce of performance you can squeeze out. But tell me how long you intend to wait before you get the system? if the answer is "coupla months" then i would say wait for the Fermi, but if its "oh my god the earth is going to end" then go for 5850. Reason? 5770 cannot be compared to 216 head on. 5770 with DX 11 games is what 4850 is to DX 10 games, when games with real DX11 potential starts to come out then the 5770 will begin to suffer. Ofc one can argue with the driver stand point, but a piece of software can do only that much. Assuming that you are going for a minimum of 22" monitor (without which your whole setup is pointless) you will need a card that can hold the fort. So my humble opinion would be a 5850. I'm sure spending all that time in those forums you would've come across the phrase "p55 is a dieing breed". P55 has no foreseeable future, it wont accommodate SandyBridge.Its important cuz of two points, future upgrade of the processor is not possible, Resale value would be way too low. So choose wisely my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Welcome to the age old question. AMD vs Intel. But since you mentioned those two words "long run" i suggest you stick to the Intel. Its definitively better than the AMD option, Since AV Enc/Dec comes into play its better to have every ounce of performance you can squeeze out. But tell me how long you intend to wait before you get the system? if the answer is "coupla months" then i would say wait for the Fermi, but if its "oh my god the earth is going to end" then go for 5850. Reason? 5770 cannot be compared to 216 head on. 5770 with DX 11 games is what 4850 is to DX 10 games, when games with real DX11 potential starts to come out then the 5770 will begin to suffer. Ofc one can argue with the driver stand point, but a piece of software can do only that much. Assuming that you are going for a minimum of 22" monitor (without which your whole setup is pointless) you will need a card that can hold the fort. So my humble opinion would be a 5850. I'm sure spending all that time in those forums you would've come across the phrase "p55 is a dieing breed". P55 has no foreseeable future, it wont accommodate SandyBridge.Its important cuz of two points, future upgrade of the processor is not possible, Resale value would be way too low. So choose wisely my friend. Thanks for the valuable inputs buddy I was planning to sort of order this week. I was supposed to order it last year, but then, I was told to wait for i5 and then i5 went out of stock and so on. I can wait for Fermi, but I doubt if it'll be priced anywhere near the 10k price point considering the previous prices of nvidia cards. Even now GTX 260 costs 1k more than 5770. One thing I'm going to lose out by getting 5770 is physX support. But then, no similar performing card is available in this range from nividia. Monitor - well, I've a 19" monitor currently. But I plan to connect this rig to a >46" LCD TV in the future. So if the games releasing for the upto the next 2 years are playable in 720p/1080i resolution - its ok. 1080p playability will be a bonus, but I guess that's being greedy I've not ordered the rig yet, still open to suggestions….so please bring them across. And what is SandyBridge and which mobo supports it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memnom Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 The reason to wait for fermi is that the prices of the ATI will fall because now ATI has almost no competition when it comes to DX11 Cards,so they have the upperhand. Once Fermi comes out you will see a lot of price drops happening across the board. lets say you can get a 5850 with little addition to your present budget. For a 19" monitor 5770 is commendable but don't even imagine for a sec that u can play at 1080i with 5770, for that u would need a 5850 at-least, if 5870 well and good. I want you to understand this mate, for a "gaming" system there is no other component as important as the GFX. GFX > Proc > RAM > HDD > Mobo this is how it works. Drop your choice of cabby and go for Xigmatek Asgard arount 2k, u will save 1.8k which you can add for your gfx. i5 (the one u are going to get) is based on LGA 1156, while i7 and the upcoming i9 and forthwith will be based on LGA 1366. SandyBridge is an another architecture like Nahaelm which uses 32nm fabrication process. or in simpler words its a faster processor which gives out less heat. So if u want to upgrade the proc alone in say 2 years u will run into complications. Tell me the absolute maximum budget you can go for and exactly for what u are using the rig. i will suggest a config for your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Tell me the absolute maximum budget you can go for and exactly for what u are using the rig. i will suggest a config for your needs. Maximum budget - 40k (excluding monitor/dvd writer/speaker) Will be using the rig mainly for gaming followed by HD movies, AV encoding, photoshopping, music etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memnom Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Intel i7 920 D0 - 14300 GB x58 UD3R - 11275 (since you said you wont OC) 4GB DDR3 1600MHz - 5000 FSP Everest 600W - 5300 Xigmatek Asgard - 2000 Seagate 1TB - 4000 Saphire 5830 - 12xxx the total comes to 52000, alright before you begin to flame me... The config which you posted in the first page for intel costs about 47500 this one costs 4500 more. For this you get the performance u wanted. a year down the line u can get a cooler like TRUE and u are all set for some good OC. I can also suggest you either get the system now leaving the card (wait for fermi), or wait a coupla months and get the system once fermi comes out. (u waited more than a year dont rush now). And if u want to know about FSP and how reliable they are go to johnnyguru.com and read the reviews, they are the OEM suppliers of the worlds top PSU manufacturers. It is possible to give you a AMD config but then you have to OC it heavily to match this performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 bro i9 when it release be damn expensive.games and most apps have yet to fully use 4 cores.and 1156 may get 6 cores.i5 750 is vfm com to i7.5830 is priced at15000 not 12000.also 460gtx is months away.do not go for seagate go for wd as they have bett waranty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Get this config-c.p.u-core i5 750-rs 10k.mobo-gigabyte ud2 -6.5k.ram-gskill 2gb as they are 1.5v ,add 2gb latter when prices come down -2600.card-sapphire 5770-10k.psu-corsair 450vx actually it is a 550 watt psu-4k.cab.cm 310 hd-wd blue640gb-300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Avoid a 450W PSU if you ever want to upgrade without hassles in the future. Always, always get the best motherboard and PSU you can. Those two can be a real pain to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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