AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 What? It could happen. Guy can dream cant he? the 470 will launch here for a price tag of around 22k i guess...i think you can get a second hand one for 13-15k by that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 from AnandTech let’s talk about the other factors: price, power, and noise. At $500 the GTX 480 is the world’s fastest single-GPU card, but it’s not a value proposition. The price gap between it and the Radeon 5870 is well above the current performance gap, but this has always been true about the high-end. Bigger than price though is the tradeoff for going with the GTX 480 and its much bigger GPU – it’s hotter, it’s noisier, and it’s more power hungry, all for 10-15% more performance. If you need the fastest thing you can get then the choice is clear, otherwise you’ll have some thinking to decide what you want and what you’re willing to live with in return. Moving on, we have the GTX 470 to discuss. It’s not NVIDIA’s headliner so it’s easy to get lost in the shuffle. With a price right between the 5850 and 5870, it delivers performance right where you’d expect it to be. At 5-10% slower than the 5870 on average, it’s actually a straightforward value proposition: you get 90-95% of the performance for around 87% of the price. It’s not a huge bargain, but it’s competitively priced against the 5870. Against the 5850 this is less true where it’s a mere 2-8% faster, but this isn’t unusual for cards above $300 – the best values are rarely found there. The 5850 is the bargain hunter’s card, otherwise if you can spend more pick a price and you’ll find your card. Just keep in mind that the GTX 470 is still going to be louder/hotter than any 5800 series card, so there are tradeoffs to make, and we imagine most people would err towards the side of the cooler Radeon cards. AMD would decrease prices for 5800 series,i can see this 5800 series cards are more value for money just like 4850/4870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 its actually a tough call to make now, the only advantage that Nvidia card bring are PHYSX, other then that ATI has really caught up well, the driver issues that used to hold back ATI are also being eradicated... Things can just get better for the consumer from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Heating, noise etc never really bothers me. After all about 8 months out of 12 our fans are on. Its not like you are gonna notice a 5cm GPU fan noise when there is a fan whirring about your head. Ati could use more developer support TBH. You can call PhysX, 3D etc a waste of resources but its a nice incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 What? It could happen. Guy can dream cant he? 22k a sap 5850 costs 15k,by year u may get it much cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Heating, noise etc never really bothers me. After all about 8 months out of 12 our fans are on. Its not like you are gonna notice a 5cm GPU fan noise when there is a fan whirring about your head. Ati could use more developer support TBH. You can call PhysX, 3D etc a waste of resources but its a nice incentive. ya but you live in delhi, the other 4 months can be PITA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 ^^I also use headphones. 22k a sap 5850 costs 15k,by year u may get it much cheaper 5850 at 15K? I have been out of touch I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 22k a sap 5850 costs 15k,by year u may get it much cheaper that is expected price, but then it would be somewhere there, Nvidia has never been cheap in India, whereas ATI has always done a great job to keep the price in check in India. So i personally don't see them doing that great, me for one won't spend on crappy brands like Gigabyte and all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 5850 at 15K? I have been out of touch I guess. Indeed. Even XFX costs around that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 The reviews on the 480 state that the idle power consumption is twice that of an idle 5870 and at full load the card consumes almost as much power as a 5970. That is not a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 ^^I also use headphones. 5850 at 15K? yup that too sapphire its like evga for nvidia http://www.theitwares.com/sapphire-100282s...nity-p-459.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 actually on a second thought, 470 is pretty much beating 5870 or almost close to it, so you can't compare 5850 prices with 470 the right comparison would be 5870 and 470, wat is the price of 5870? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 5850 at 15K? I have been out of touch I guess. Yeah its going for 15k right now, maybe 14.5k if you look harder. And it'll hit 10k by year end, which is the perfect time to jump to DX11 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 actually on a second thought, 470 is pretty much beating 5870 or almost close to it, so you can't compare 5850 prices with 470 the right comparison would be 5870 and 470, wat is the price of 5870? The review states it 5-10% slower than the 5870 and 2-8% faster than the 5850. Seriously, 2-8% increase doesn't warrant a 5k or so price increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 that is expected price, but then it would be somewhere there, Nvidia has never been cheap in India, whereas ATI has always done a great job to keep the price in check in India. So i personally don't see them doing that great, me for one won't spend on crappy brands like Gigabyte and all.. not just india,nvidia were always overpriced,do u remember 8800gtx few years back its was like 40 k ,if isnt for amd introducing 4850/4870,we would still be paying 30k for a high end card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 The review states it 5-10% slower than the 5870 and 2-8% faster than the 5850. Seriously, 2-8% increase doesn't warrant a 5k or so price increase. well 5870 is 26k so the person targetting 5870 should rather pick a 470 and if you get it from US it is 350$ -> 17500 (Price for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 The review states it 5-10% slower than the 5870 and 2-8% faster than the 5850. Seriously, 2-8% increase doesn't warrant a 5k or so price increase. lol from what this guys are saying its going to cost 22k,i would expect ati to reduce price of 58xx by that time,also ATHEK is big time nvidia fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 not just india,nvidia were always overpriced,do u remember 8800gtx few years back its was like 40 k ,if isnt for amd introducing 4850/4870,we would still be paying 30k for a high end card ya, the bad monopoly days, take this nvidia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 lol from what this guys are saying its going to cost 22k,i would expect ati to reduce price of 58xx by that time,also ATHEK is big time nvidia fanboy yup i will get EVGA 470 for 15k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 My bad 5870 is 23.5k , so i guess Nvidia should launch 470 for 20k in india, if they want to compete... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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