The Android Thread

[Jigsaw]

It's due to all the synchronization with Cloud and the services running in the background. SGS has below average battery life IMO.

 

Nexus S has decent battery life, with a UV kernel it should get better.

 

Desire Z, with a NON SENSE ROM(CM6.1 or CM7, or any of the stock based ROM's out there) has fantastic battery life.

 

yeah maybe you are right...

[Jigsaw]

^^

 

Go for Galaxy S or Nexus S , 33 k for nexus is good.

 

BTW i'm getting very good battery life 30+ hours on Galaxy S on Darky ROM 9.1.

 

Darky has released 9.2 Extreme Edition on friday.. just installed it..

[delpiero10]

Set my apprehensions over Moto to the side and went out and got the Defy...Its a sweet model, runs snappily , gr8 touch feedback (an iphon4 user commented on that)...battery life seems to be good enuf too!! Plus hey....i gota worry a lil bit less about getting it wet dropping it e.t.c.

[Solitaire]

there are many things you dont know about corporate world and how they function. if there's any hardware flaw, please elaborate.

 

 

?? And you're what Sony's VP or something?? What exactly am I wrong about? Shantz, superfrag, someone comment please. And software updates are a major thing to consider when it comes to android.

 

Sony's update cycle for their phone software is not gonna magically change. They left the X10 running on 1.6 and even the update to 2.1 came a LONG time later than other manufacturers.

 

There is no "hardware flaw" on the device apart from the fact that you'd be getting a single core snapdragon based mobile phone at a time when most other high end android phones are going dual core. I for one wouldn't do that unless said device had some significant advantage atleast in the form of software updates. Neither is the screen tech anything to go ga-ga about. It isn't a SAMOLED screen and the "Reality Display" isn't at a pixel density as high as the iPhone 4's display either.

 

Sony's Xperia Arc isn't gonna be a pure stock gingerbread device, they'll put their Rachael UI on it (or whatever it's called now), so that "first update" advantage that the Nexus line should have (atleast until the next Nexus phone) is not part of the Xperia Arc package. Sure, you can get it if what you want is Android (and you don't really care for the latest OS version) on a nice camera phone with a good build quality.

[Solitaire]

Google Maps 5.1 with WORLDWIDE NAVIGATION out

Of course, it's a hack by some coder just like Brut Maps and not straight from Google.

 

Vector maps + Navigation OMG

 

 

Uninstall your stock Gmaps 5.0 . I guess you'll have to use Titanium Backup or some uninstaller app like Absolute to remove it clean. And then install this apk - http://tigersw.cn/filedown.aspx?id=41757 - and you're set to enable turn by turn voice navigation (with vector maps unlike Brut) in any country, not just the USA anymore.

 

Working for plenty of people from China, Germany, Spain, Poland etc.

 

Hope this is useful.

 

 

 

Source: http://www.miui.com/thread-32925-1-1.html and http://bbs.gfan.com/attachmentList.php?action=search (search for "ownhere") and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887&page=230 (start with post 2299 at the bottom of the page and proceed onwards).

 

 

 

Also, I notice I'm on 3999 posts.. now where shall I make it 4000 hmmmm..

Edited February 6, 2011 by Gaurav - Solitaire

[Live]

i want to pick up a android phone, have been stuck with Nokia for ages,

so can anyone here suggest me a good decent android phone with 14k

[dR gAm3]

Lg optimus 1 .. Wil be ur best bet here

[dR gAm3]

Lg optimus 1 .. Wil be ur best bet for dat pricing

[KWC]

I have heard that the xcd 35 from dell is a good phone.

 

Its the same one as this.

 

http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/review/2011/01/26/Orange-San-Francisco--ZTE-Blade-/p1

[Javs]

Bro, congratz on your buy. First of all, its a great phone. But it is not known for its battery. The battery has been an issue in this phone everywhere i read about it

 

And secondly, dont follow all those gimmicks. Really add no value to your phone. Your battery is new, give it a week or two to condition and settle down. And use it normally. Dont let it die down. Charge when it hits 20-30% if you can. Seriously the internet is full of idiiots who propose such weiird methods. Although, you may try charging with your phone switched off.

 

edit: Yea gaurav, its caleld bump charging. Honestly i find no difference. Maybe i get 20 mins more battery life Or maybe not. Just need to use batteries normally. And give it atleast 5-10 recharge cycles to condition itself.

 

Thanks bro

My battery is performing much better now. I did restart my phone and shut down all running apps. Also I think its the bump charge that is doing it. So its been 24 hrs and still I have like 20% battery left and I used a lot of apps etc.

 

So far I am loving this phone and the big screen . my ipod touch look like a little brother of this phone.

 

in fact I am typing from te phone and also speaking as it converts into text which is an awesome feature I just discovered

 

I am missing a front cam for video calls as I was in the impression that it came with a front cam

[Hot-Drake-Pixel]

?? And you're what Sony's VP or something?? What exactly am I wrong about? Shantz, superfrag, someone comment please. And software updates are a major thing to consider when it comes to android.

 

Sony's update cycle for their phone software is not gonna magically change. They left the X10 running on 1.6 and even the update to 2.1 came a LONG time later than other manufacturers.

 

There is no "hardware flaw" on the device apart from the fact that you'd be getting a single core snapdragon based mobile phone at a time when most other high end android phones are going dual core. I for one wouldn't do that unless said device had some significant advantage atleast in the form of software updates. Neither is the screen tech anything to go ga-ga about. It isn't a SAMOLED screen and the "Reality Display" isn't at a pixel density as high as the iPhone 4's display either.

 

Sony's Xperia Arc isn't gonna be a pure stock gingerbread device, they'll put their Rachael UI on it (or whatever it's called now), so that "first update" advantage that the Nexus line should have (atleast until the next Nexus phone) is not part of the Xperia Arc package. Sure, you can get it if what you want is Android (and you don't really care for the latest OS version) on a nice camera phone with a good build quality.

 

I wouldn't worry about OS update. Geeky user like my wont wait for sony to update the OS. DO-IT-YOURSELF. Day 1 rooting. Plus I am developing apps and would mess around a lot with the OS anyways.

 

I have held X10 and SGS together. SGS looks like a plastic toy infront of X10 chrome trim line. Hardware is sexy.

[MarketTantrik]

I wouldn't worry about OS update. Geeky user like my wont wait for sony to update the OS. DO-IT-YOURSELF. Day 1 rooting. Plus I am developing apps and would mess around a lot with the OS anyways.

 

I have held X10 and SGS together. SGS looks like a plastic toy infront of X10 chrome trim line. Hardware is sexy.

Prassantha, if you're serious about Android development and want a phone immediately to test your creations out one, stick with HTC handsets. You need to see how your apps run in an environment that most people will use and HTC makes and sells the most Android handsets in the market today. HTC is also pretty regular with its updates.

 

Sony Ericsson is horrible at support. Avoid for now.

[Solitaire]

I wouldn't worry about OS update. Geeky user like my wont wait for sony to update the OS. DO-IT-YOURSELF. Day 1 rooting. Plus I am developing apps and would mess around a lot with the OS anyways.

 

I have held X10 and SGS together. SGS looks like a plastic toy infront of X10 chrome trim line. Hardware is sexy.

 

 

I may not be an android coder, but I'm far from non-geeky You're confusing build quality with hardware. And the Nexus S isn't the same plasticky iPhone imitating-look toy that the SGS is despite the plastic back. Besides, if you want it for development I'd assume you'd be far more concerned with software updates and such than "oh the back of the phone is so nice". Plus the SAMOLED blows any other display pretty much out of the water with the exception of the somewhat equivalent "Retina" display of the iPhone 4. The Adreno 205 isn't nearly as good as the SGX540 either.

 

If you're developing apps and NOT intending to mess with the OS then you would be inclined to NOT fool around with custom ROMs much either. If you do put a custom ROM on it then you'll once again not be developing for a representative population unless you were getting yourself a rom like modaco's which is based on stock.

 

You'll be getting yourself a single core device that the majority of future android users DO NOT have / intend to buy (and nowhere near in number as the present hummingbird users atleast what with the SGS selling like hot cakes) in a world that's going dual core. I don't know what else to say. The choice is yours but you might as well not ask for advice if you're planning to get from us only what you expect to hear. All I was trying to do save you trouble by buying a sony ericsson. Just wait and try getting an HTC phone.

 

 

Prassantha, if you're serious about Android development and want a phone immediately to test your creations out one, stick with HTC handsets. You need to see how your apps run in an environment that most people will use and HTC makes and sells the most Android handsets in the market today. HTC is also pretty regular with its updates.

 

Sony Ericsson is horrible at support. Avoid for now.

 

I hope he listens to you atleast instead of throwing condescending statements about me not knowing about the corporate world. Then again, he can't say that bit to you

Edited February 6, 2011 by Gaurav - Solitaire

[megzworld]

Set my apprehensions over Moto to the side and went out and got the Defy...Its a sweet model, runs snappily , gr8 touch feedback (an iphon4 user commented on that)...battery life seems to be good enuf too!! Plus hey....i gota worry a lil bit less about getting it wet dropping it e.t.c.

 

 

Great.. Welcome to the Moto-Family..

[Shantz]

Prassantha, if you're serious about Android development and want a phone immediately to test your creations out one, stick with HTC handsets. You need to see how your apps run in an environment that most people will use and HTC makes and sells the most Android handsets in the market today. HTC is also pretty regular with its updates.

 

Sony Ericsson is horrible at support. Avoid for now.

Yeah..guys like Sony and moto do a lot of changes to the Android framework leading to issues with apps. HTC does that too but more often than not, their changes do not change the behavior expected from stock Android apis and I don't think there are a lot of people doing AOSP ROMs for SE phones. Plus for app devs, rooting and custom ROMs are the least concern as they would be targeting the stock ROMS anyways.

[Hot-Drake-Pixel]

I may not be an android coder, but I'm far from non-geeky You're confusing build quality with hardware. And the Nexus S isn't the same plasticky iPhone imitating-look toy that the SGS is despite the plastic back. Besides, if you want it for development I'd assume you'd be far more concerned with software updates and such than "oh the back of the phone is so nice". Plus the SAMOLED blows any other display pretty much out of the water with the exception of the somewhat equivalent "Retina" display of the iPhone 4. The Adreno 205 isn't nearly as good as the SGX540 either.

 

If you're developing apps and NOT intending to mess with the OS then you would be inclined to NOT fool around with custom ROMs much either. If you do put a custom ROM on it then you'll once again not be developing for a representative population unless you were getting yourself a rom like modaco's which is based on stock.

 

You'll be getting yourself a single core device that the majority of future android users DO NOT have / intend to buy (and nowhere near in number as the present hummingbird users atleast what with the SGS selling like hot cakes) in a world that's going dual core. I don't know what else to say. The choice is yours but you might as well not ask for advice if you're planning to get from us only what you expect to hear. All I was trying to do save you trouble by buying a sony ericsson. Just wait and try getting an HTC phone.

 

 

 

 

I hope he listens to you atleast instead of throwing condescending statements about me not knowing about the corporate world. Then again, he can't say that bit to you

 

First of all I wasnt asking for advice. But then you had to assume a lot of things about me & my expectation from next android phone and waste some of your time and bytes on the cloud.

 

Regarding representative population, have you heard of android SDK and emulators? You dont really have to have a physical phone with mass representation, although it does not hurt to have one.

 

You assumed that a developer should be concerned about the upgrades. If I can root it and upgrade it as many times as I want then why should I be concerned. Can I upgrade the build/hardware quality?

 

Why are you assuming that I am not intending to mess with the OS?

 

Anyways, dont bother to respond.

 

MT, I might pick up some cheap set for now and wait it out for HTC Evo's equivalent for ATT's 4g.

[MarketTantrik]

I hope he listens to you atleast instead of throwing condescending statements about me not knowing about the corporate world. Then again, he can't say that bit to you

I was talking about a very specific purchase scenario. If he wants to buy a phone to muck around with, any modern device will suffice.

[Solitaire]

And you say it because?

 

Yeah sure, you didn't want a reply to this did you?

 

First of all I wasnt asking for advice. But then you had to assume a lot of things about me & my expectation from next android phone and waste some of your time and bytes on the cloud.

 

Regarding representative population, have you heard of android SDK and emulators? You dont really have to have a physical phone with mass representation, although it does not hurt to have one.

 

You assumed that a developer should be concerned about the upgrades. If I can root it and upgrade it as many times as I want then why should I be concerned. Can I upgrade the build/hardware quality?

 

Why are you assuming that I am not intending to mess with the OS?

 

Anyways, dont bother to respond.

 

MT, I might pick up some cheap set for now and wait it out for HTC Evo's equivalent for ATT's 4g.

 

If you're gonna use an SDK to meet your needs, then why did you confidently say that you want to develop on the phone and that was one of your reasons for getting it? Get a cheap handset instead (which you've finally decided I see)

 

If you can root, you still need ROMs to upgrade to. The SE roms section (atleast for the Xperia X10) on XDA has roms with numerous problems when it comes to froyo and gingerbread. Many with stuff like the camera not working and bluetooth issues. When you do put one of those ROMs on your phone ---> representative population argument ---> back to my first paragraph just above. The 2.1 roms are decent but then again you also have 2.1 from Sony directly. No reason to believe Sony will turn over a new leaf for that.

 

Ah, well you can't upgrade your build/hardware. But you're still assuming having a phone with better build is more important than having a phone with better hardware inside. If that's your expectation, then Xperia FTW indeed.

 

Why am I assuming you won't want to mess about with the OS? Well you're the one who said and I quote "Plus I am developing apps and would mess around a lot with the OS anyways."

 

See, I bothered to reply.

 

I was talking about a very specific purchase scenario. If he wants to buy a phone to muck around with, any modern device will suffice.

 

It's not about you, just the manner of his response. Clearly stated why and he says I don't know about corporate culture I don't even see the connection. And he was all about developing apps not mucking around with some random phone atleast initially.

Edited February 7, 2011 by Gaurav - Solitaire

[Superfrag]

@HKP:

 

Do you plan to make your own ROM's for the SE phone you'll buy? Cause currently the ROM Development for the Xperia X10 is very poor, there is no good stable 2.3 builds, and they've finally got around to getting out some decent 2.2 builds.

 

In comparison HTC phones like EVO, G2 & MT4G already have 2.3.2, thanks to CyanogenMod and other devs.

 

You seem to be on AT&T, in that case the best phone for AT&T would be the upcoming HTC Inspire 4G. At XDA, devs are most biased towards HTC, cause someof them have come from WinMo 6.5 devices, which again was used by HTC.

 

Also, you can always wait for the SE phones to release, and see if any prominent ROM devs pick one up. Unless you plan to write your own ROM's from AOSP.

[Hot-Drake-Pixel]

Yeah sure, you didn't want a reply to this did you?

 

 

 

If you're gonna use an SDK to meet your needs, then why did you confidently say that you want to develop on the phone and that was one of your reasons for getting it? Get a cheap handset instead (which you've finally decided I see)

 

If you can root, you still need ROMs to upgrade to. The SE roms section (atleast for the Xperia X10) on XDA has roms with numerous problems when it comes to froyo and gingerbread. Many with stuff like the camera not working and bluetooth issues. When you do put one of those ROMs on your phone ---> representative population argument ---> back to my first paragraph just above. The 2.1 roms are decent but then again you also have 2.1 from Sony directly. No reason to believe Sony will turn over a new leaf for that.

 

Ah, well you can't upgrade your build/hardware. But you're still assuming having a phone with better build is more important than having a phone with better hardware inside. If that's your expectation, then Xperia FTW indeed.

 

Why am I assuming you won't want to mess about with the OS? Well you're the one who said and I quote "Plus I am developing apps and would mess around a lot with the OS anyways."

 

See, I bothered to reply.

 

 

 

It's not about you, just the manner of his response. Clearly stated why and he says I don't know about corporate culture I don't even see the connection. And he was all about developing apps not mucking around with some random phone atleast initially.

 

 

Wow, you are a piece of work . You are still assuming and making up things.

 

When and why would I say that I need a phone to develop app when my app is 70% ready without even owning a phone. Thanks to the free SDK. But I would definitely love to see it working on a physical phone before doing the final release.

 

Why are you ranting again and again about x10 which I am not even interested? I made a reference to x10 for the build quality and styling.

 

Once again, why are you assuming that I wont mess with the OS? Here's what I said and you quoted too. "Plus I am developing apps and would mess around a lot with the OS anyways."

 

Just drop it. I am not judging you.