The Android Thread

[Phoenix Wright]

Why did it get kicked? Isn't the market open and non curated?

 

Because it's got PSX in its name. And no, it's not because of the Xperia Play either, FPSe is a much better emulator and it's still alive and kicking on the Market.

 

You, like a lot of the Apple supporters commenting on this, seem to have the wrong idea about Open-ness. It doesn't mean you can infringe on copyrights, or do something downright illegal. I don't blame you guys though, it's not like you've had a lot of experience with open standards.

[Solitaire]

Why did it get kicked? Isn't the market open and non curated?

 

 

It's a new day. New FUD.

 

 

 

Though PW has answered your question:

 

 

Because it's got PSX in its name. And no, it's not because of the Xperia Play either, FPSe is a much better emulator and it's still alive and kicking on the Market.

 

You, like a lot of the Apple supporters commenting on this, seem to have the wrong idea about Open-ness. It doesn't mean you can infringe on copyrights, or do something downright illegal. I don't blame you guys though, it's not like you've had a lot of experience with open standards.

 

 

I must say Congrats on setting new standards of retardation every day for the more ardent followers of the sect of Apple . You sure do think different

 

 

 

 

iChilles

 

 

 

 

 

And like many people have said it here, I really love Android these days and don't feel I could live with something like iOS without jailbreaking it. I've won a lot of stuff and maybe someday I'll switch over to an iPhone simply cos I win one, but I'd probably sell it off and get whatever's the latest android device from Google. Before i had the nexus S I was pretty much evenly split between adopting either an iOS or Android device. Very nearly bought an iPhone 4 from Hong Kong too. But my current phone serves my needs very well, and I don't need a dedicated media device like the iPod touch with what my phone offers being sufficient.

Edited April 8, 2011 by Gaurav - Solitaire

[Shantz]

 

It's a new day. New FUD.

I tried the OTA thing with Google. The problem was that the address book in Google does not have as many category headers and does not accept new ones. For eg. If I have the number for a restaurant saved according to it's location instead of simply using "mobile/main/work" etc., Google won't pick it up.

You seriously take FUD spreading to new levels..Do you do it on purpose or you are too dumb to use a phone or service?

Google and Android support at least 7-8 built-in headers and also support custom ones. When you choose a label for a phone number, right below home/workl/mobile etc, it says "Custom". Any custom labels you create for any phone numbers WILL be sync'ed back and forth.

You can also create custom groups for contacts and those will also be sync'ed back and forth.

[achilles]

You, like a lot of the Apple supporters commenting on this, seem to have the wrong idea about Open-ness. It doesn't mean you can infringe on copyrights, or do something downright illegal. I don't blame you guys though, it's not like you've had a lot of experience with open standards.

 

So they have a problem with the name and not what the app actually does? It can do something downright illegal if it has the right name.

 

Score.

 

And don't even begin to talk about open standards. Apple has spearheaded industry standards more than probably any other company. Android supporters get this out of your head, free is not open. Open source is not open standard. There is a difference. Google so ardently (supposedly to oppose Apple & iOS) supports Adobe Flash and removed support for H.264 from Chrome, which is an industry standard pretty recently.

 

I must say Congrats on setting new standards of retardation every day for the more ardent followers of the sect of Apple . You sure do think different

 

Hey, I'm just stating what you guys used to carry stamped on your chests with a thump everytime someone mentioned Android. Open. Don't be too buoyant now, I've got K3K's 'unleash' button right here

 

And like many people have said it here, I really love Android these days and don't feel I could live with something like iOS without jailbreaking it. I've won a lot of stuff and maybe someday I'll switch over to an iPhone simply cos I win one, but I'd probably sell it off and get whatever's the latest android device from Google. Before i had the nexus S I was pretty much evenly split between adopting either an iOS or Android device. Very nearly bought an iPhone 4 from Hong Kong too. But my current phone serves my needs very well, and I don't need a dedicated media device like the iPod touch with what my phone offers being sufficient.

 

I'm actually surprised you were even considering the iPhone 4 as much as an Android phone at one point. You fail the testy.

[achilles]

You seriously take FUD spreading to new levels..Do you do it on purpose or you are too dumb to use a phone or service?

Google and Android support at least 7-8 built-in headers and also support custom ones. When you choose a label for a phone number, right below home/workl/mobile etc, it says "Custom". Any custom labels you create for any phone numbers WILL be sync'ed back and forth.

You can also create custom groups for contacts and those will also be sync'ed back and forth.

 

Tried it twice on my iPhone and once on three different iPhones. Did not work. Maybe Google chooses not to work well for me. They really aren' that open.

 

It has 7-8 built in headers for which the numbers synced fine but none of the custom headers were picked up.

[Shantz]

So they have a problem with the name and not what the app actually does? It can do something downright illegal if it has the right name.

 

Score.

Emulators are not illegal. Names are. There was a DMCA complaint against it by Sony and hence has been removed. Google will remove any app that is infringing someone else's copyrights.

 

And don't even begin to talk about open standards. Apple has spearheaded industry standards more than probably any other company. Android supporters get this out of your head, free is not open. Open source is not open standard. There is a difference. Google so ardently (supposedly to oppose Apple & iOS) supports Adobe Flash and removed support for H.264 from Chrome, which is an industry standard pretty recently.

lol open standards...

H.264 is patent encumbered and anyone using it is liable to pay huge amounts as and when MPEG-LA demands. That was the reason behind chrome dropping it, not open or closed. Also, chrome dropped "native" H.264 support. You can still use plugins for it.

Also, if you think H.264 is an "industry standard", Flash is even more so. It is used more widely on the web than any other competing technology, has full specifications available to general public, has many alternative non-adobe implementions available to be used.

 

Apple fanboys like you are the ones who use "open" words more than anyone else. You pounce on anything and everything Android and label it a contradiction to open even when you don't even understand what open is or if the matter at hand does not even relate to being open. Apple keeps promoting everything it does as being open and you boys keep lapping it up like there is no tomorrow. Facetime was supposed to be an "open standard". I haven't seen as much of even an API doc from Apple for it.

[MarketTantrik]

FYI, right now I use Audio Galaxy and stream all my music, since I have internet everywhere I go. I can't do the same on my iPad. Only one way ; convert and sync with iTunes.

Zumocast provides that functionality on iOS for music, videos and photos and all for free.

[Superfrag]

Zumocast provides that functionality on iOS for music, videos and photos and all for free.

 

Yeah, I was mistaken earlier, there is an Audiogalaxy app for the iPad as well. Zumocast is no longer available btw.

[Solitaire]

 

Hey, I'm just stating what you guys used to carry stamped on your chests with a thump everytime someone mentioned Android. Open. Don't be too buoyant now, I've got K3K's 'unleash' button right here

 

 

I'm actually surprised you were even considering the iPhone 4 as much as an Android phone at one point. You fail the testy.

 

Touche! You see, not all of us can be rabid fanboys like you Of course THAT guy takes rabid to a whole new level

[Hot-Drake-Pixel]

THIS! I love the fact that I have a text file in dropbox, and I can open it using any app that supports that file! Same for PDF's and ePubs! Also, same for opening links ; on WiFi I use stock browser, on the go I use Opera Mini.

 

Why so?

[Superfrag]

It's faster(turbo compression as well).. especially if the coverage gets spotty. By on the go I mean on the highway.. in the city I have 3G anyways..

[theneurotoxin]

Is Gingerbread out for the SGS?

 

If so, please direct me to a guide detailing the update process.

[Solitaire]

Is Gingerbread out for the SGS?

 

If so, please direct me to a guide detailing the update process.

 

You mean the official gingerbread update? I see lotsa gingerbread roms on the SGS's page at XDA. I think Deathstryke is using a leaked build of gingerbread from Samsung.

 

There's this short how-to on how to root the unofficial GB rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974465

and

the ROM list with GB roms for the SGS after that leaked build - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886000

Edited April 8, 2011 by Gaurav - Solitaire

[spindoctor]

Is Gingerbread out for the SGS?

 

If so, please direct me to a guide detailing the update process.

 

coming this month - http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/07/gingerbread-update-for-samsung-galaxy-s-to-start-rolling-out-in/

[theneurotoxin]

Cool. I'll wait for the official release.

['AL']

xperia neo has been launched for 25k.... another one with gingerbread on-board..... really great choices for anyone looking for a smartphone right now..... unlike the iOS device these phones are available officially with support from the respective companies.....

[MarketTantrik]

Yeah, I was mistaken earlier, there is an Audiogalaxy app for the iPad as well. Zumocast is no longer available btw.

Too bad for those who dont have it. Its a great app.

[theneurotoxin]

H.264 is patent encumbered and anyone using it is liable to pay huge amounts as and when MPEG-LA demands. That was the reason behind chrome dropping it

 

Is it though?

 

The reason cited is "to enable open innovation". http://blog.chromium...-in-chrome.html

I think it is pretty safe to say that most Chrome users consume H.264 video, including Google's very own YouTube, through the ubiquitous Flash plugin. Even more so because Chrome doesn't natively support H.264 any longer. I don't see how such a scenario helps in the development of WebM & Theora video codecs.

Edited April 8, 2011 by ArtVandelay

[Shantz]

Is it though?

 

The reason cited is "to enable open innovation". http://blog.chromium...-in-chrome.html

I think it is pretty safe to say that most Chrome users consume H.264 video, including Google's very own YouTube, through the ubiquitous Flash plugin. Even more so because Chrome doesn't natively support H.264 any longer. I don't see how such a scenario helps in the development of WebM & Theora video codecs.

yes. It is to enable open innovation because right now MPEG-LA is locking in as many people and companies as possible into H.264 by allowing free usage but their license clause allows them to begin charging whenever they please. The fees amount will also be upto their whims and fancies and can run into millions of dollars putting many small start ups out of business. The clauses also allow discretionary charging so the patent holders can pick and choose to put a rival company of their choice out of business overnight by charging them much more than the others. I don't know why people are making such a big deal out of Chrome dropping the support when Opera and even market leader firefox don't support H.264 natively from the very beginning because of this very reason. Chrome is just following them, not creating a new idea.

Moreover, they are still not "blocking" H.264. As mentioned by you, H.264 is still consumable through flash and all of them do allow other plugins too for users still wanting H.264 support without flash unlike a certain fruit company which blocks one of the most widely used web technology, which is gauranteed to remain free and allows you to develop your own implementations without licensing issues, and still heralded as the champion of open web.

Edit: Another point. Google mentions in their post that they want to direct their resources towards other codecs instead of spending the same on H.264 development. It is completely their prerogative where they spend their energy and money on. They don't want to spend it on H.264 but if anyone else wants to work on it, they are not stopping them either. In a similar way, Apple just stopped their own Java versions on mac and started directing users towards openJDK for future support. Why is again that not questioned when this is?

Edited April 8, 2011 by Shantz

[Death Stryke]

Ah, the android apple fights of yore

 

Let's just face it, there will always be a section of the crowd who will not look beyond iOS. Likewise for Android. Each OS has their own glaring niggles. Live and let live folks!

 

@Rithvik

 

Bro, Try out Juve's 3.1 XXJVK GB 2.3.3 rom. Quite a good rom and comes with a lagfix kernel (Yes, its still RFS :wallbash) I'm using launcherpro so its working okay. The copy-paste issues still exist though.

 

U will need to flash the stock ROM via Odin first. No pit required.

 

And I agree with AL. Wide variety of high end smartphones available in India today. What with the Inc S/Desire S/Xperia Arc/NS et all. Just today a friend of mine ordered the Inc S from Flipkart. Nowadays people r not thinking much before splurging 25k on a phone. Apple's missing a lot with their attitude here.

Edited April 8, 2011 by Death Stryke