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Bought both Swiftkey X (my default) and Slide IT. With ICS around the corner, you never know which apps will get a better port/upgrade. So buying most of the productivity/utility apps in this sale.

 

Come on Google, day 6!

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Bought both Swiftkey X (my default) and Slide IT. With ICS around the corner, you never know which apps will get a better port/upgrade. So buying most of the productivity/utility apps in this sale.

 

Come on Google, day 6!

 

SwiftKey devs have been super with updates regularly so am sure ICS won't be a stumbling block

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Sony Ericsson explains how hard it is to update to Android 4.0 ICS

 

No one likes waiting for software updates, but preparing such an update for release turns out to be a tougher ordeal than most people suspect. Sony Ericsson detailed their procedure of updating, which explains why we'll have to wait a while before they release the promised Android Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) update, even though the ICS source code has been out for weeks.

The first stage is to merge the changes brought about by ICS into Sony Ericsson's own source code and to resolve any issues that might arise from the merge.

ICS has been optimized for Texas Instruments, so Sony Ericsson has to throw those parts out and replace them with equivalent parts for the Qualcomm 8255 chipset, which they used across the 2011 Xperia lineup.

 

 

You'd think that using the same chipset in all phones will make the transition easy. Not quite, it turns out. The chipset might be the same, but the peripherals - cameras, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS, sensors, etc - are different. Support for those has to be included in the Hardware Abstraction Layer (simply put, they need divers for those devices).

That's quite a bit of work, but it's far from the end of it - after that's done, all devices must be tested to see if the new software works properly. And they need an official certification that they do.

 

Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_explains_how_hard_it_is_to_update_to_android_40_ics-news-3492.php

 

BTW, Avkash, read the bolded part and go :wOOtjumpy:

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And what about the devs at CyanogenMod who've stated that handsets based on Qualcomm chipsets will be among the first to get ICS? Those guys (God bless them) do all this for free at that too, unlike the Sony Ericsson devs who are paid for that.

 

It's sad that companies are lazy to provide firmware updates for handsets that have earned them money just so they can come up with a mobile that's like 1% different from the previous one and have people shell out more moolah for the same.

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And what about the devs at CyanogenMod who've stated that handsets based on Qualcomm chipsets will be among the first to get ICS?

 

They dont have to go through anything else other than coding and testing. Read the topic fully. There are lot of checks, certifications and permissions from all countries (around 80) where they are selling the handsets. Then there are carriers. Its a lot bigger task than some mod team. And let me assure you, the ICS from any mod team out there will have some features broken. Sh*tty wifi, no fm, buggy camera, no hardware acceleration, battery bugs, call drops, anything of such sorts or all of this. Not saying that stock FW will be perfect, but it will ensure everything will be working.

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They dont have to go through anything else other than coding and testing. Read the topic fully. There are lot of checks, certifications and permissions from all countries (around 80) where they are selling the handsets. Then there are carriers. Its a lot bigger task than some mod team. And let me assure you, the ICS from any mod team out there will have some features broken. Sh*tty wifi, no fm, buggy camera, no hardware acceleration, battery bugs, call drops, anything of such sorts or all of this. Not saying that stock FW will be perfect, but it will ensure everything will be working.

While I agree with your reason. Your view of Cyanogen mod,or any Custom ROM is incredibly juvenile. Cyanogen Mod ROMS when fully released,always perform miles better than stock fw. (My ROM for instance gives me 2 days battery life vs 8hrs on stock) as to further emphasize my point, XDA devs have already taken out a working and stable build of ICS for my phone minus the Camera and full HW acceleration (They have managed with a hack which works as good) and Both Camera and HW acceleration are coming soon,or as was announced by them today :bigyellowgrin:

 

I have yet to see a custom ROM perform worse than stock. Thats the whole point of a custom ROM that it performs better.

 

In other news Huawei has already rolled out a beta (but fully working) ICS for one of their phones. if such small companies,which make budget phones can do it,why not Sony?

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Cyanogen Mod ROMS when fully released,always perform miles better than stock fw. (My ROM for instance gives me 2 days battery life vs 8hrs on stock) as to further emphasize my point

 

Can you give me the Cyanogen mod version and your phone details?

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While I agree with your reason. Your view of Cyanogen mod,or any Custom ROM is incredibly juvenile. Cyanogen Mod ROMS when fully released,always perform miles better than stock fw. (My ROM for instance gives me 2 days battery life vs 8hrs on stock) as to further emphasize my point, XDA devs have already taken out a working and stable build of ICS for my phone minus the Camera and full HW acceleration (They have managed with a hack which works as good) and Both Camera and HW acceleration are coming soon,or as was announced by them today :bigyellowgrin:

 

I have yet to see a custom ROM perform worse than stock. Thats the whole point of a custom ROM that it performs better.

 

In other news Huawei has already rolled out a beta (but fully working) ICS for one of their phones. if such small companies,which make budget phones can do it,why not Sony?

Even I agree that companies have to go through stringent checks but in my experience stock ROMs are stable but usually not optimised for performance, efficiency (battery life) or even the amount of space available to the user (read bloatware). Its a case of making sure all features work once the phone is switched on.

 

But custom ROMs are better in nearly every way because of one single reason : feedback from users is instant and it is acted upon fast as well. My previous phone (I5801) got updated to Froyo but camera would FC everytime. It took Samsung three months to release updated firmware which fixed that bug. In three months most of the experienced devs (CM team for example) can make a ROM for a phone from AOSP itself.

 

I'm always awed by the work the developer community does. For the I5801 there are kernels OCing it to 1.3GHz stable. I had it on 1GHz all the time with no issues whatsoever. Freelancing developers rock. They are the reason why I bought the Nexus One. It's a developer phone and gets every bit of love that a phone possibly can.

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Can you give me the Cyanogen mod version and your phone details?

Mine is CM 7.1 stable (Android 2.3.7) on Nexus One. Compared to stock it's much better battery life and somewhat zippier in general performance.

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Mine is CM 7.1 stable (Android 2.3.7) on Nexus One. Compared to stock it's much better battery life and somewhat zippier in general performance.

 

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/34658-help-my-nexus-s-crashed-frequently-on-cm-710/

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297566&page=31

 

And there are many such topics on many forums. It might be stable for you, but NO mod is stable for everyone compared to Stock ROMs. Something or the other stops working. If that thing is not required by you, then its good, if not, then such topics are created.

 

But I agree on your point that devs are fantastic. They do all this for free, and are able to extract full features of the device without any bloatware. This is what we love about android. I am sure that atleast a couple of ICS ROMs will be released before official ICS from Samsung etc.

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Can you give me the Cyanogen mod version and your phone details?

HTC desire HD and the ROM is called blackice its a heavily optimized version of CM7.

And the battery life on stock vs custom ROM could vary from manufacturer to manufacturer as when I use sense roms I get less battery compared to AOSP based roms.

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Sony Ericsson explains how hard it is to update to Android 4.0 ICS

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_explains_how_hard_it_is_to_update_to_android_40_ics-news-3492.php

 

BTW, Avkash, read the bolded part and go :wOOtjumpy:

 

It means squat. The only TI phone right now with stable ICS is the Galaxy Nexus. There are other popular TI phones like the Motorola ones, which will take ages to get ICS. Custom ROM development will be quicker for TI phones, but the i9100G isn't a popular model and doesn't have support like the more popular models.

 

Don't get excited, don't expect ICS to come fast.

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^I have talked to a developer of CM mods, he is working on I9100G build and is very happy with Ti chipset as it made the job simple for him.

 

Ah, then that is good news. Hopefully this model receives good development. The best news would be if it gets officially supported by CM! ^^

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