Cash Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 How do they get to the limbo?? Who was the old chinese guy in the end?? if it is saito how did he age much?? couldn't get the last part clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 they go to limbo if they are killed in the dream. normally once u are killed in the dream, you wake up but here the people involved were under heavy sedatives so they go to limbo. if u grow old and die in limbo, your brain is burned in real life too. the old guy was saito, the reason he aged so much is because time in dreams move at much faster speed. remember he died of bullet wounds much before cobb went deeper to try and get him back, hence the aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevilgautam Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 read somewhere - good points... "its reality u can tell because in the other parts of the movie when he spins the totem it doesnt wobble at all. also another point is that if its a dream he wouldnt of known how he got there.. he remembers getting off the plane and everything so how was it a dream?" "cant be real… the children were wearing exactly the same clothes… the sunlight, room decor everything was the same… it has to be a dream…" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nolan is still thinking if the ending was ended as real or Dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 IMDB lists two different sets of actors for the kids because different actors portrayed the kids we see and the ones we hear when Cobb is talking over phone. Another thing to note - is Saito really that influential that he can make one phone call and all of Cobb's charges go away before the plane lands? It just seems too far fetched for someone like Nolan. But not so much if you think of the ending as Cobb's dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevilgautam Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nolan is still thinking if the ending was ended as real or Dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup bro? Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nolan chose to deliberately cut immediately after the top started losing balance to fill in that moment of doubt in everyone's head. By showing the half truth he has opened up a possibility of both interpretations being right. If you believe that Cobb is in a dream, you are correct. If you believe that Cobb is in reality, you are correct. There is enough evidence throughout the film to support both claims, because you want those evidence to exist and are looking for it. Moreover, Cobb himself doesn't really care what happens because he does not stay back to watch the top but spins it and goes to meet his children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nolan has deliberately kept the ending open. I doubt he's gonna comment on it anytime soon. Just like how The Prestige was presented like a magic trick and Memento was shown in the form of bite-sized memories (much like the main character's condition), Inception was about planting an idea (in this case a seed of doubt) in the viewers' minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevilgautam Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nolan chose to deliberately cut immediately after the top started losing balance to fill in that moment of doubt in everyone's head. By showing the half truth he has opened up a possibility of both interpretations being right. If you believe that Cobb is in a dream, you are correct. If you believe that Cobb is in reality, you are correct. There is enough evidence throughout the film to support both claims, because you want those evidence to exist and are looking for it. Moreover, Cobb himself doesn't really cares what happens because he does not stay back to watch the top but spins it and goes to meet his children. I agree. Valid arguments for both sides - and Nolan deliberately did so...I like happy endings - so am sticking it with it being a reality I think Cobb was distracted by the kids and that's why didn't stay to watch the top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 then what's the point of the third show? ha! 1st show, I went to watch a Speactacular movie. Came back thinking I've understood MOST of the things... Then, my theories start getting counter theories.. By this time I'm so blown away by the fact that this is the most awesome movie that i go for a 2nd show (keeping in mind my theories). During the 2nd show I kept my ending in mind and tried to Di-cipher the movie more conclusively, and i did. Within 2 days, my conclusiveness gets questioned more factually by the alternate ending and by this time, I have to go for a 3rd show... I just want to believe that this movie is Legend in my third, without trying to di-cipher things... yep. the ambiguity. it can be as simple as you want it to be. and as complex as it wants to be. deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole Don't yu start with the Rabbit Hole now.... talking about The Matrix and Inception together is gonna make my head blast, literally!! yea..but if it was all a dream then Miles was Cobb's own subconscious. how would Cobb know that Miles knew Ariadne? Ariadne a sub-conscious too.????.. they come here to be woken up cz they live for weeks in the dream world by dreaming for a few (4?) hours in the real world. they still live out their real lives. the granny was taking a nap when Cobb came yeah my point exactly... im just tryin to say that Cobb had become an addict once.. I had something else in mind as well, but i seem to have slept it off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I really refuse to accept the "It was all a dream theory" simply because if that is the case then is movie is garbage.. its very easy to show all kinds of batshit insane things and then close it with.. it was all a dream.. Booyeah bitches !! That is the worst kind of ending ever cause you can just keep on piling one nonsense over another without any relation because, well it was all a dream. I really hope that is not the case here, i would lose a lot of respect for nolan if its revealed that this is the real ending. Even I don't believe in the "it is all a dream" as my/anyone's thinking would all be pointless... Im very, very sure thats not true!! There was definitely one real world sequence in that movie an that'd be from the time Cobb and his entourage woke up in the train (after failing), Cobb sitting with a gun and spinning his totem in a hotel room talking to his kids (that seemed so real), that helicopter ride with Saito... it all shouldn't be a dream! Acc. to me, its either 1) happy ending, cobb goes to US with his little tykes, everything is fine and all and has a badass story to tell his grandkids. or 2) cobb is trapped in the limbo, saito probably killed him in limbo (maybe with cobb's consent) and the new world (shown at the end) is probably what cobb created. I really wonder why it is that only saito and cobb wake up with wtf !! on their faces in the plane, rest all were fine and happy. The 1st time I watched, i believed in 1).... The second time I watch (believeing in 1)), i tried harder to get conclusiveness, but it only made me incline towards 2)... now after 2days im heavily inclining towards the 2)... f**k! if however the same person is the creator and the dreamer then of course the totem will be useless but if this is the case then there is no danger, as is there no use for totem.. ie its a normal dream, no one is trying to steal memories or planing inception on the person in question. This is strongly making me think that end sequence of the film was indeed Cobb's dream afresh... He can dream now.. No more Psycho Mal projection stopping him cause of guilt and sh*t... Cobb the creater, the dreamer... His world!! Never came out of limbo, just started dreaming afresh!! Another thing to note - is Saito really that influential that he can make one phone call and all of Cobb's charges go away before the plane lands? It just seems too far fetched for someone like Nolan. But not so much if you think of the ending as Cobb's dream. If we happen to believe Saito's phone call is too far-fetched, then this story becomes toooooo complex... Cobb asked Saito after getting off the chopper, that how can he (Cobb) be sure that Saito can/will make a phone call and Cobb can walk free in America.. to which Saito replied, "Yu don't... but i can(make the phone call).. So can yu take that leap of faith, blah blah blah" Thinking of that phone call to be a far-fetched idea is an Inception in itself!! Lets just say Saito is a big, big man in the present world of Inception (He bought the whole airline company during Inception mission FFS) and he can make that phone call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognac-vsop Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I went to watch this film, cause it was a Nolan film. My fave part was seeing Alfred & scarecrow there!! I loved it when they put that cloth bag on his head, very scarecrow like & when they gave him the sleeping gas to go into the dream world. That was funny. If only dickaprio was replaced by Christian bale, that would make Alfred his dad. That would have been epic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognac-vsop Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Just saw twitter, and everyones like, are we living in a dream? Is my life a dream?, I told them to jump off a window ledge, like that dudes wife & find out if it's a dream or not. It's just a movie. Ppl shouldn't get carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer06 Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Back after my second show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 i bet you still is confused no worried even nolan is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Either the movie is so simple and it's execution so complex that no one's able to explain it conclusively, or there are enough plot holes in both theories that may or may not have been left deliberately by Nolan. Either way, for now, until the director's cut comes out or Nolan himself blurts out something, I don't think we'll be able to pin it exactly down to what it is. The fact remains though..one of the most gripping and enjoyable movies of the year so far. I'd surely watch it again,but sounding a grand on watching the same movie a second time is..just not done. /Mumbai ticket prices suck Peace out hombrés !! @ Madhav..ur losing it man. Look at you. You're a menace. Despicable. How could you live with yourself? AAAAAAAAAAAAA~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /Kramer :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 @ Madhav..ur losing it man. Look at you. You're a menace. Despicable. How could you live with yourself? AAAAAAAAAAAAA~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /Kramer :P I've given it up dude!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchneideR Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 f**ckin Hell. Up until now i thought I had the movie figured out (to an extent). But the links and the arguments I have read here have mind fked me... I am definitely watching the movie more than twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gulabi Chaddi Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 inception will c it again for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 The ending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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