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8 minutes ago, CarbonCore said:

VRR and local dimming are all high-end features, you're not going to find them in 40" screen. This is the shitty thing about TV market, if you want a feature rich TV you gotta go with giant-a*s screen.

 

The only 43/49 inch that's worth considering is probably the Samsung Q60R/Q60T. It's a QLED panel but doesn't have local dimming and is edge-lit if I am not wrong. 

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You are right. Missed out on the frame when I was searching a couple of weeks back. Also, does the Frame have VRR and local dimming?
Nope it doesn't have local dimming. Also brightness is only ~500 nits. However all HDMI 2.1 features including VRR, 4k 120, etc. are present in 55 inch and up models. Not so sure about the smaller ones. 
Like I said before, the midrange in Indian TV market is useless. You're spending 70k+ on a TV which can't do HDR properly which imo is a really important feature for gaming considering how much it improves the visuals with minimal processing overhead. 
Only 55 inch and above models have HDMI 2.1 and other features like 40W sound output and all. This os why 50 inch is not really worth it in this model!
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Samsung Frame 55" seems to be a very VFM model right now. 

  • In terms of Picture quality, sits between Q70T and Q80T
  • Has the Samsung OneConnect box
  • Has high contrast ratio

The other models which are better than that are OLEDs and QlLED series (80T and above), none of which are priced under 1.5L right now. Even taking into account Diwali discounts, anything below 1.3L looks unlikely, which makes the Frame a good 40-45k cheaper.

If you have the moolah, OLED is the way to go, else Frame is a good option. 

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Samsung Frame 55" seems to be a very VFM model right now. 
  • In terms of Picture quality, sits between Q70T and Q80T
  • Has the Samsung OneConnect box
  • Has high contrast ratio
The other models which are better than that are OLEDs and QlLED series (80T and above), none of which are priced under 1.5L right now. Even taking into account Diwali discounts, anything below 1.3L looks unlikely, which makes the Frame a good 40-45k cheaper.
If you have the moolah, OLED is the way to go, else Frame is a good option. 
Pretty much sums up the scenario right now!
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Nope it doesn't have local dimming. Also brightness is only ~500 nits. However all HDMI 2.1 features including VRR, 4k 120, etc. are present in 55 inch and up models. Not so sure about the smaller ones. 

Like I said before, the midrange in Indian TV market is useless. You're spending 70k+ on a TV which can't do HDR properly which imo is a really important feature for gaming considering how much it improves the visuals with minimal processing overhead. 

I usually play in my room and 43 inch is a sweet spot (that's what I have right now) but the max I was planning to go up to was 50 inches. I guess I'll have to get 55 inches sooner or later looking at the Indian TV market scenario and the features required for optimal gaming on the next gen consoles.

 

I just can't imagine a huge TV in my room, space is not a constraint but unfortunately the layout of the room is such that a huge TV will be a sore spot. I hope some good options come up by next year for 50 inches.

 

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I usually play in my room and 43 inch is a sweet spot (that's what I have right now) but the max I was planning to go up to was 50 inches. I guess I'll have to get 55 inches sooner or later looking at the Indian TV market scenario and the features required for optimal gaming on the next gen consoles.  
I just can't imagine a huge TV in my room, space is not a constraint but unfortunately the layout of the room is such that a huge TV will be a sore spot. I hope some good options come up by next year for 50 inches.
 
If the room is not too small where you are only 5-6 feet apart from the TV screen then you can get 55 inch. They are bang for the bucks especially some of the models providing some much needed upgrade from their 50 inch counterparts. Also, no one complains about the TV size too big but people do complaint about them being small. So, if possible and not too sore for eyes. Get a 55 inch TV.
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If the room is not too small where you are only 5-6 feet apart from the TV screen then you can get 55 inch. They are bang for the bucks especially some of the models providing some much needed upgrade from their 50 inch counterparts. Also, no one complains about the TV size too big but people do complaint about them being small. So, if possible and not too sore for eyes. Get a 55 inch TV.
Yeah will have to go for 55 inch. I'll just wait for a few months and try my luck maybe some 50inch tvs come out without compromising on the features, I am hoping that sony/samsung will launch some models once the PS5 hits the market.

I love huge tvs for the living room but I prefer 43/50 inch for the room.
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6 minutes ago, SuperT said:

Yeah will have to go for 55 inch. I'll just wait for a few months and try my luck maybe some 50inch tvs come out without compromising on the features, I am hoping that sony/samsung will launch some models once the PS5 hits the market.

I love huge tvs for the living room but I prefer 43/50 inch for the room.

Sony has already released its TVs for this year and they have branded them for Ps5. So I don't think you are gonna get anything more from them. It's all 55 inch or above if you want a tv which hits every mark.

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Sony has already released its TVs for this year and they have branded them for Ps5. So I don't think you are gonna get anything more from them. It's all 55 inch or above if you want a tv which hits every mark.
It's just wishful thinking, I will wait till I get my hands on a PS5 and then take a call. I do have a feeling that I will be forced to take the 55inch route.
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Considering i have no space to get a bigger TV 43 inch is it for me. Unfortunately the frame 2020 model has a 38 inch flat stand and with corona pandemic rampant i won't be able to go out and make a new table, also i guess frame [serif] 2020 43 inch is 80,000 MRP right ? My TV table has 35 inch flat surface Btw

 

I have seen on RTing website the sony models given below have some 24fps judder thing that seems to me will cause problems in gaming or media experience correct me if I'm wrong. Local dimming idk if i ever require it as on now and many say VRR is not well implemented on many TVs so chances of these Non high end TVs ever actually having good VRR were slim anyway. So i can do without local dimming and VRR for now.

Considering that i need to extend the budget to accommodate a better model, after doing extensive research here are the models i shortlisted, if anyone of you have used either of these models of any inch size do let me know if they are good for gaming and everyday TV needs like watching movies, shows, sports, idk if streaming is a priority for me so that can take a back seat, gaming good colors and performance matter.


All 43 inch models -
 

Samsung Q60R/Q60T

Sony X80H

Sony 43X7500H  

Samsung The Frame LS003 43 inch

Samsung RU7470

Samsung UA43TUE60FKXXL

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Considering i have no space to get a bigger TV 43 inch is it for me. Unfortunately the frame 2020 model has a 38 inch flat stand and with corona pandemic rampant i won't be able to go out and make a new table, also i guess frame [serif] 2020 43 inch is 80,000 MRP right ? My TV table has 35 inch flat surface Btw
 
I have seen on RTing website the sony models given below have some 24fps judder thing that seems to me will cause problems in gaming or media experience correct me if I'm wrong. Local dimming idk if i ever require it as on now and many say VRR is not well implemented on many TVs so chances of these Non high end TVs ever actually having good VRR were slim anyway. So i can do without local dimming and VRR for now.

Considering that i need to extend the budget to accommodate a better model, after doing extensive research here are the models i shortlisted, if anyone of you have used either of these models of any inch size do let me know if they are good for gaming and everyday TV needs like watching movies, shows, sports, idk if streaming is a priority for me so that can take a back seat, gaming good colors and performance matter.

All 43 inch models -
 
Samsung Q60R/Q60T
Sony X80H
Sony 43X7500H  
Samsung The Frame LS003 43 inch
Samsung RU7470
Samsung UA43TUE60FKXXL
The Samsung Serif and Samsung Frame are different. You can get the Serif for 70k on Amazon if you apply a 10k coupon which is active right now. I would not suggest you get the Frame 43 inch model that one is 2 years old and doesn't have qled and is overpriced. Better to go for the serif if you like the tv style (it has big bezels as it's designed from a decorative pov).

Unfortunately if space was not an issue you could have put in a little more money and get a feature rich 50/55 inch tv.
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Bro 3 versions of frame have been released. The current one being sold released in 2020.
Yes, actually I was referring to the 43 inch model@NitroNeo was referring to in his post. I believe that one is from 2017/18 because that was 43 inch post that there haven't been any 43 inch Frame TVs by Samsung in 2019 and 2020 atleast in India. So I'm not sure which one he is referring to...

And the serif is a new addition which comes in 43 inches and is available on Amazon for around 70k that is a 2020 model. Serif and Frame are two different models is what I was mentioning.

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7 hours ago, NitroNeo said:

Considering i have no space to get a bigger TV 43 inch is it for me. Unfortunately the frame 2020 model has a 38 inch flat stand and with corona pandemic rampant i won't be able to go out and make a new table, also i guess frame [serif] 2020 43 inch is 80,000 MRP right ? My TV table has 35 inch flat surface Btw

 

I have seen on RTing website the sony models given below have some 24fps judder thing that seems to me will cause problems in gaming or media experience correct me if I'm wrong. Local dimming idk if i ever require it as on now and many say VRR is not well implemented on many TVs so chances of these Non high end TVs ever actually having good VRR were slim anyway. So i can do without local dimming and VRR for now.

Considering that i need to extend the budget to accommodate a better model, after doing extensive research here are the models i shortlisted, if anyone of you have used either of these models of any inch size do let me know if they are good for gaming and everyday TV needs like watching movies, shows, sports, idk if streaming is a priority for me so that can take a back seat, gaming good colors and performance matter.


All 43 inch models -
 

Samsung Q60R/Q60T

Sony X80H

Sony 43X7500H  

Samsung The Frame LS003 43 inch

Samsung RU7470

Samsung UA43TUE60FKXXL

Samsung RU7470

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2 hours ago, SuperT said:

Unfortunately if space was not an issue you could have put in a little more money and get a feature rich 50/55 inch tv.


Yup i remember the good old time when 40+ inch TVs and 32,37 inch TVs had all the same technology, just the bigger TVs were more vibrant and more connectivity stuff, now i can't buy a new house for a TV, manufacturers need to think about us as well, hell I'd pay the amount if i could get local dimming and VRR in 43 inch size.

@SuperT For the frame 2018 and 2019 models the naming seems confusing one site shows LS003 as 2018 and other shows it as 2019. Some show LS03 as 2019. For the 2020 model i only got a australian website product page.

@dante77 After seeing the difference between QLED and OLED i don't think i can go back to OLED, though will keep the RU7470 in mind strangely it's commonly available for a old TV. Though the colors seem dull to QLED.

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