The TV Decision Making Thread

[NitroNeo]

So I played a bunch of ori will of the wisps (4k 120) and FH4 (4k 60) today on my CX. 
 
Happy to report that everything works pretty much flawlessly. 4k 120 10b HDR with VRR and instant game response works with no hiccups. Also happy to report that the gamma issue in VRR isn't a major concern at all. Ori has a dark environment and I didn't notice the raised blacks issue. Not saying its not there but it's definitely not noticeable. 
 
Also, I didn't notice 120 fps initially, but after switching between 60 and 120 fps, 120 does feel a lot smoother. 60 fps almost felt sluggish. 
 
CX is an amazing TV for gaming and kudos to MS for shipping with all HDMI 2.1 features working properly. 

Came across this today. Check after the 15m mark if you are pressed for time. It seems ori doesn't put VRR to test since it's single player and forza isn't 120fps. But COD is intensive and demanding and it is causing flicker for this guy. And his findings in video are similar to yours for ori and forza. So while it is good to hear. But intense compititve games like cod do leave some worry since the screen will be filled with many things happening when connected to the internet so it will make the frame rate go bonkers with random spikes and falls.

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[ZooZoo]

17 hours ago, kunjanp said:

I have been enjoying my x90H without any DSE or banding and it's sad that you received bad units twice. But great that you are getting a refund.

I didn't see CX going for 97k as you said but it was going for 1.05L after cashback. Go ahead and try to get that price again, you will have to wait till next Diwali to get C1 anywhere close to that price.

Where did you see that price? It is still a crazy price for CX. Anyone ever finds a CX around 1lac mark, please share the link here. I'm hunting passively for a new TV for PS5 but do not want to spend more than a lac at this point. Will wait for Christmas sale and still nothing comes then will get the X9000H which seems to be the cheapest 4K120 FPS option out there.

[Assassins Creed]

3 hours ago, ZooZoo said:

Where did you see that price? It is still a crazy price for CX. Anyone ever finds a CX around 1lac mark, please share the link here. I'm hunting passively for a new TV for PS5 but do not want to spend more than a lac at this point. Will wait for Christmas sale and still nothing comes then will get the X9000H which seems to be the cheapest 4K120 FPS option out there.

 

Killer deals for OLED are only in retail stores not online.. stretch a little more and should be able to get a CX for 1.1- 1.2 ish.. PM me if you are in Bangalore will give you a contact from whom both me and keyofx got a 65 CX for 1.6 ish with cashbacks not sure wat the prices are now but can definitely get the best price..

[ZooZoo]

25 minutes ago, Assassins Creed said:

 

Killer deals for OLED are only in retail stores not online.. stretch a little more and should be able to get a CX for 1.1- 1.2 ish.. PM me if you are in Bangalore will give you a contact from whom both me and keyofx got a 65 CX for 1.6 ish with cashbacks not sure wat the prices are now but can definitely get the best price..

I'm in Bangalore. PM Sent 

[Keyofx]

7 hours ago, NitroNeo said:

 

7 hours ago, NitroNeo said:

Came across this today. Check after the 15m mark if you are pressed for time. It seems ori doesn't put VRR to test since it's single player and forza isn't 120fps. But COD is intensive and demanding and it is causing flicker for this guy. And his findings in video are similar to yours for ori and forza. So while it is good to hear. But intense compititve games like cod do leave some worry since the screen will be filled with many things happening when connected to the internet so it will make the frame rate go bonkers with random spikes and falls.
 

 

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It does depend on your specific use case. For someone who doesn't touch MP (like me), this isn't really an issue.

 

Also, I'd recommend only looking at opinions from DF, FOMO, and HDTVTest. This dude has 28 subs. Doesn't mean he isn't right, but I haven't seen this mentioned by anyone else, I don't think.

Edited December 9, 2020 by Keyofx

[NitroNeo]

Where did you see that price? It is still a crazy price for CX. Anyone ever finds a CX around 1lac mark, please share the link here. I'm hunting passively for a new TV for PS5 but do not want to spend more than a lac at this point. Will wait for Christmas sale and still nothing comes then will get the X9000H which seems to be the cheapest 4K120 FPS option out there.

Are christmas sales as big as diwali sales in india?

Also can we do without local dimming if i keep on the light sensor or if i don't play in the dark at all? Uniformity is more important to ne than night or dark room viewing as i never watch TV under those circumstances.

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[NitroNeo]

HDTVTest and Fomo are LG sellouts. DF sold out to nanocell promotion recently.

QuantumTV loves his Q8fn thiugh does have some helpful info.

HDTVtest and rtings showed fake gray uniformity for x90h. Some reddit users on my c90h issue thread commented that some owners there also faced vertical bar issue. Some think it is a FALD thing. But these famous youtubers never say anything.

So you can't rely on any of en and have to watch all of en then search reddit to really know what is the real thing.

I do nultiplayer gaming to a good extent so i am worried about a flickering screen.

Also it seens to be a demanding game thing. Ori and forza horizon 4 are not that graphically intense for current hardware. But COD is. So do feel worried since it is a 1L+ investment. If it was 50k I'd just buy it but around and after 1L you subconciously expect a product that works as advertised.

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[NitroNeo]

Seriously what is samsung doing, with sony not doing anything new in TV space i was hoping of upgrading to samsung, i wish when LG launches the C1 in India they at least give 3 years warranty so people can jump in day 1. With C1 around corner and micro and mini LED tech around the corner, 2021 will be a total reverse of crap 2020 TV year
 

 

Edited December 9, 2020 by NitroNeo

[NitroNeo]

Just avoid 2020 TVs i guess, like everyone is saying this year all TVs were crap, the frame was a good all rounder but delicate cable, OLEDs are good but delicate. Anyone of you who are very eager for a gaming TV just wait i guess if you have a working TV at home.
 

 

[Jigsaw]

6 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

Just avoid 2020 TVs i guess, like everyone is saying this year all TVs were crap, the frame was a good all rounder but delicate cable, OLEDs are good but delicate. Anyone of you who are very eager for a gaming TV just wait i guess if you have a working TV at home.
 

 

Can’t wait bro for the 2021 oled magic from LG. 

 

Have managed to convince the wife Oled is the way to go burn in or burnol. #YOLO

 

She doesn’t care as much as we do for optics and instead focuses purely on gameplay which is a great thing but getting onboard was something 

[NitroNeo]

The thing about burn in is it really that bad ? does the logo that burns in always visible like those bars on the x90h i had ?

Frankly burn in is now least of my worries if i go for OLED purely for uniformity, then keeping that TV always safe will give me sleepless nights (-_-")

[Jigsaw]

10 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

The thing about burn in is it really that bad ? does the logo that burns in always visible like those bars on the x90h i had ?

Frankly burn in is now least of my worries if i go for OLED purely for uniformity, then keeping that TV always safe will give me sleepless nights (-_-")

honestly I gave up going to the movies a couple of years ago. Couldn’t stand the stupid wannabes in every marvel movie crying, sobbing and jumping up and down. 
If I’m going to be at home watching movies/web series might as well have the best display possible. 
Gaming again although I’ve never had a hands on with an oled, the 1ms input lag of LG oled seems super tempting. I need cod MP the way fish need water so that’s that. Burn in ho gaya toh BC ho gaya. Life won’t end.  Tired honestly of the limitations of FALD with the light blooming and all 

[NitroNeo]

honestly I gave up going to the movies a couple of years ago. Couldn’t stand the stupid wannabes in every marvel movie crying, sobbing and jumping up and down. 
If I’m going to be at home watching movies/web series might as well have the best display possible. 
Gaming again although I’ve never had a hands on with an oled, the 1ms input lag of LG oled seems super tempting. I need cod MP the way fish need water so that’s that. Burn in ho gaya toh BC ho gaya. Life won’t end.  Tired honestly of the limitations of FALD with the light blooming and all 

Blooming too is a overblown issue. Head on i didn't notice it though with the second X90H in AC odyssey it had weird halos of light around stuff like the light point on ports you use to call the ship.

If you want home theatre fun then i guess nothing is there except OLed. Though check tomorrows samsungs webinar for their micro led releases. They might release a micro led tv at 65 inches though it seems 75 will be minimum size. Also micro leds don't suffer from high burn in risk.

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[Jigsaw]

1 minute ago, NitroNeo said:

Blooming too is a overblown issue. Head on i didn't notice it though with the second X90H in AC odyssey it had weird halos of light around stuff like the light point on ports you use to call the ship.

If you want home theatre fun then i guess nothing is there except OLed. Though check tomorrows samsungs webinar for their micro led releases. They might release a micro led tv at 65 inches though it seems 75 will be minimum size. Also micro leds don't suffer from high burn in risk.

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From what I’ve heard from a friend who’s super into displays, micro Leds will command an even super premium price than oled for at least the next 3 years. So not holding my breath for those. 
 

The way I look at it, if I get an oled next year be it CX or C1 and it lasts me for 3-4 years I’ll be back on the market hopefully when micro leds are palatable from a price perspective. Not to mention they would’ve have a 2-3 generational refreshes ironing out any new-tech bugs. 

[Agent 47]

39 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

The thing about burn in is it really that bad ? does the logo that burns in always visible like those bars on the x90h i had ?

Frankly burn in is now least of my worries if i go for OLED purely for uniformity, then keeping that TV always safe will give me sleepless nights (-_-")

 

If you or any of your family members watch dth channels for 7+ hrs everyday then the OLED isn't for you. Even in games there are static images like the minimap, health bar etc which is always present on the screen so having long sessions of gameplay is something i wouldn't advice.

[NitroNeo]

 
If you or any of your family members watch dth channels for 7+ hrs everyday then the OLED isn't for you. Even in games there are static images like the minimap, health bar etc which is always present on the screen so having long sessions of gameplay is something i wouldn't advice.

OLED owners here our concern for gane bars and huds is unjustified. We don't watch dth that much. Family watches 1 show and some news. Me a football match and news. And maybe sone rare infotainment. Other than that gaming for 5 hours daily since it's covid.

If no covid then 2 hours of daily gaming.

Like jigsaw if i go oled it would last me the sane time i guess but i do hope LG do that curtosy panel replacement for burn in.

Breaking the screen though is my worry. Since when i enquired about it the screen costs like 90k to 1L. Which is almost a new LG OLED during festive periods.

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[Jigsaw]

2 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

OLED owners here our concern for gane bars and huds is unjustified. We don't watch dth that much. Family watches 1 show and some news. Me a football match and news. And maybe sone rare infotainment. Other than that gaming for 5 hours daily since it's covid.

If no covid then 2 hours of daily gaming.

Like jigsaw if i go oled it would last me the sane time i guess but i do hope LG do that curtosy panel replacement for burn in.

Breaking the screen though is my worry. Since when i enquired about it the screen costs like 90k to 1L. Which is almost a new LG OLED during festive periods.

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comprehensive 3 year extended warranty bro. Officially lg don’t cover burn in on paper. But the engineer and another friend who has one told

me they do honor for ext-warranty customers. That’s kind of a grey area since it’s not laid out officially and that’s a risk one has to be ready to

take if they wish to. Ultimately it boils down to pure luck though. Taking a gamble then becomes completely subjective for every individual. The way I look at it, TVs nowadays anyways barely last 4-5 years without developing issues. Might as well enjoy those deep blacks and the gaming goodness an oled brings for the same peace of mind but the added saxxyyy visuals. 

[NitroNeo]

comprehensive 3 year extended warranty bro. Officially lg don’t cover burn in on paper. But the engineer and another friend who has one told
me they do honor for ext-warranty customers. That’s kind of a grey area since it’s not laid out officially and that’s a risk one has to be ready to
take if they wish to. Ultimately it boils down to pure luck though. Taking a gamble then becomes completely subjective for every individual. The way I look at it, TVs nowadays anyways barely last 4-5 years without developing issues. Might as well enjoy those deep blacks and the gaming goodness an oled brings for the same peace of mind but the added saxxyyy visuals. 

Are you sure they do curtsey replacement in india though AFAIK it only happens in 1st world countries.

Also can we get 3 years warrenty like now when the C1 comes out around march or april next year?

I don't want to wait till diwali to get 3yr and then add 2 more. Even if i get 3 yr warranty at C1 launch i would just keep it and won't add another 2 since those would cost around 80k.

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[Jigsaw]

9 hours ago, NitroNeo said:

Are you sure they do curtsey replacement in india though AFAIK it only happens in 1st world countries.

Also can we get 3 years warrenty like now when the C1 comes out around march or april next year?

I don't want to wait till diwali to get 3yr and then add 2 more. Even if i get 3 yr warranty at C1 launch i would just keep it and won't add another 2 since those would cost around 80k.

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From what their own brand engineer who came home to fix my Wi-Fi card not working issue, they do replacements for Oled. Just that it is a little tedious with the senior mgmt cribbing about approvals. The engineers have to face the heat from customers so they have devised their own jugaad - “run the mobo and panel dead ingeniously” which then demands a replacement. 
 

So yeah not really a courtesy thing. And again purely dependent on luck in terms of how experienced the engineer you get is and how far he’s willing to go to “help” you out. 

[NitroNeo]

From what their own brand engineer who came home to fix my Wi-Fi card not working issue, they do replacements for Oled. Just that it is a little tedious with the senior mgmt cribbing about approvals. The engineers have to face the heat from customers so they have devised their own jugaad - “run the mobo and panel dead ingeniously” which then demands a replacement. 
 
So yeah not really a courtesy thing. And again purely dependent on luck in terms of how experienced the engineer you get is and how far he’s willing to go to “help” you out. 

Well that is a panel lottery in it's own in terms of after service. Itna nekdil banda milna chahiye pahele.

Oh man companies go out of the way here to screw the indian consumer.

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