rad2689 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 he's not a defensive player Mel. he's a CM mainly. he can play as Attacking mid or on wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRINI87 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 oh really??? Man United lead race for Sanchez I'm just saying don't believe everything u read on d net until the clubs themselves declare that the deal has been finalised source says,,, ashley young will complete the move to united within next 48 hrs interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 he's not a defensive player Mel. he's a CM mainly. he can play as Attacking mid or on wings The way we play these days i won't be surprised if hes tracking back a lot as well. Because we all know how famous our defenders are for running up the pitch and playing the winger (I shall not name the muppet who accelerated that trend). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevilgautam Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Liverppol seems to be betting big on unfinished products like Carroll and Henderson. Could come back to bite them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 when you look at how things progressed towards the end of the season and how lively all the youngsters were mid-way through the campaign you have to ask yourself whether they would have been better had they been given more exposure and its always a gamble when you think that way. No one can say for sure that andy will score goals like he did at Newcastle and its the same with any other team as well. If they don't gel well you've got issues but these are usually noticeable with players that have gone through the early years and are now intermediates in their careers. When you have fresh blood you can still turn them into the players you want them to be. Kenny has very good man-management skills and he has a plan so I am hoping that all these players surrounded by the veterans fosters better team-play and less individual skill because thats the way L'pool were playing in the late 80s / early 90s and it started to show its face again towards the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikushimi Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I hear that Liverpool are very close to signing Phil Jones. Good young defender, has a bright future ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikushimi Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) ^^ Scratch that. Apparently, he's moving to United now. From SSN Transfer Clock Watch 12:16Editor: Stand by for a further update on Phil Jones' future - and it may come as something of a shock to Liverpool fans. 12:28Editor: Sky Sports sources understand Phil Jones is not heading for Anfield but is in fact having a medical ahead of signing a five-year deal with Manchester United. We'll bring you more details as we get them. Edited June 8, 2011 by Catalyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 RoM says Phil Jones is having a medical at United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngerSmash Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 yeah even i read it but why who needs another defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikushimi Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6970750,00.html He may be used as a DM. He's looks very comfortable and composed on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 He played very well against United in the match @ Ewoodpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikushimi Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 This would also mean the Wes Brown is on his way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekdown Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Absolute tripe. The English league and English clubs have always been a dominant force in Europe. Clubs like Nott. Forest, Liverpool and Aston Villa dominated the UCL stage winning the cup 6 years in a row and 7 times in 8 years between them in the late seventies and early eighties. Barcelona have won the UCL only once before 2005 and most of Real Madrid's dominance was in the 50's and 60's under the dictatorship of General Franco. Barcelona grew into the world beaters they are only after 2005. They gained super stardom only in the early nineties under Johan Cryuff when he assembled stars like Romario, Koeman, Laudrup and Stoichov. The reason why players from Latin countries like Brazil, Argentina and Portugal prefer Spanish teams is due to the weather and culture. They find it easier to adapt to Spain than any other country, be it Italy, England or Germany. Just because you didn't follow the English league before 96-97 doesn't mean that they weren't prominent before that. Absolute tripe? You clearly have 0 knowledge about what happened in the 70s, 80s and 90s or you probably did a quick wikipedia search and come out with those stats. Clearly you dont have the facts and what really happened. Noone has ever debated that English clubs didnt win European titles. But despite their victories they were never as popular as their Spanish and Italian counter parts. The Hillsborough incident led to England being banned from the European Championships and the emergence of the EPL meant lot of the popular English clubs went under due to commercial establishment and them not backing the EPL. South American players dont simply move to Spain or Italy because of the weather( ), its eventually down to the money and the club presence. The 80s and 90s saw the domination of Spanish and Italian clubs in the global scene. Italy was THE preferred destination. The Italian League was much like the EPL is now, till their commercial bubble burst and they realised their mistakes and corrected it. Fact is English clubs were never as popular as their Spanish counter parts despite their victories in their own league and in Europe. The emergence of EPL was a greater dent to this, earlier on since clubs like Luton which had earned their standing, was pushed out. The English league was poorly marketed and was considered a pathetic representation of football and the fitness levels required due to the drinking culture. The whole reason the EPL was established was to create a new image of English football in the global market. Establishment of EPL meant slowly foreign players started moving in to England. Around 1993-94 was when the real influx of foreign players started, most of them were brought in as back-up players. Then with the establishment of some of the foreign players and them becoming stars, which was around 95-96, the league started picking up and was regarding as a good destination to play football. This was also around the time when the Serie A bubble burst. A lot of the foreign players who plied their trade in Italy shifted their eyes towards England and you saw the emergence of many quality talents, who moved from there. Clearly because you read wikipedia or used google doesnt mean you possess any sort of knowledge that is enough to carry on a debate. And do be so foolish to question my football knowledge. If I dont know something I wouldnt bother pursuing it. You clearly have no clue of what your talking about and resort to trying to taunt my knowledge. Whereas players from other European countries like France preferred to move either stay in France or move to English or Italian clubs. Most of the French Internationals between 90's and 2000 played in French, Italian or English clubs. So do some research next time before talking gobshite. What is this, I dont even? You ding-bat, did you even read what I said? Players look up to playing at clubs like Milan and Madrid not because players of their own nationality played there, but because they were the biggest clubs at that time. Hence the current crop of players are from that generation that grew up loving those clubs. This makes it the preferred destination. And what is the nonsense about French players played in French clubs? Where did you expect them to play? In Morocco? Ofcourse most French internationals played in the French and Italian clubs in the early 90s, Ive already said why. You comfortably says most of the internationals played in French, Italian and English clubs between 90s to 00s to try and avoid pointing out your stupidity or sheer ignorance. Im not so kind, so I will point it out. Like I already said in my previous para, the Italian league's bubble burst in the mid 90s, which meant most of the players shifted their eyes to the EPL. Also, this is the precise time when the EPL gained prominence and hence became a palatable destination for foreign players. The later half of the 90s saw lot of French internationals in the leagues of England(largely due to Arsene Wenger) but thats because this is the exact time when England got popular. Dont give me your absolute garbage that there were a lot of foreign internationals who played in the EPL in early 90s because there wasnt. You clearly have no idea what the English league was like before it became popular. I can bet my money on you not having watched even 20 matches of the English league from prior to late 90s, let alone understanding an entire decade. Stop being so delusional. Do you really think that any player would come out say that they want a move away because their current club isn't winning anything? Lack of success is a factor that affects any player's decision about this future. Just because he didn't outright declare it doesn't mean he's happy with winning zilch in his career. And if you actually read my post before, you'd have noticed that it does not apply to every player. There may be some players who genuinely love the club and would stay with the club through thick and thin. Van Persie might be one of them but these type of players are few and far between. Ok wait, this is what your trying to say. Nasri says "I want to match Cesc wages at the club". I say Nasri wants more money to sign the contract. You say Im delusional. Nasri says "I want to match Cesc wages at the club". You say Nasri wants to win trophies, which neither him or any other player other than Denilson has said. You say your right. Even the idiot of idiots will see who is delusional here. Do I think the likes of Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Nani would have stayed with us had we not been successful? Nope. Money isn't everything for a player. Bayern pay some of the highest wages in Europe due to the lax wage structure in Germany. But how many superstars do you see moving to Bayern these days? Where did I ever exude the notion that Man Utd are the biggest club in the world? The only time I mentioned United in our debate was when I was commenting about the rumours linking Nasri to us. Apart from that, where did I mention that Man Utd are THE preferred destination for players? Go on, quote me, I dare you. You're just conjuring nonsense from thin air to stay in the debate. Pathetic really. Ofcourse money isnt everything. But what makes you assume Arsenal are not a big club just because they fall short of trophies, by a small margin. Its been only 6 years since arsenal last won a trophy. In footballing terms, the greatest teams in football history have gone longer times or equally long times not winning silverware. Infact, they've done far worse financially or in the league than how Arsenal have performed. Its just the media hyping up that Arsenal didnt win X, didnt win Y. When in reality, clubs like Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Villa, Roma, Valencia, Villareal, Palermo, Barcelona at one time, Man Utd went 3 years without a trophy, Chelsea for ages in the 90s etc. all have done equally bad if not worse. A lot of players realise this and hence still stay with those clubs or stay with Arsenal, in the current situation. You dont have to directly say Man Utd are the preferred destination. You are clearly implying it when saying Nasri wants to move for trophies hence he'll go to Man Utd. As have so many other Man Utd fans here. Its not directly meant for you, but for everyone. I have no interest in your manager's future and I never mentioned him or his ways. Why're you bringing him up? Its normal tendency to question me why after all what Im saying I and fellow Gunner fans want Arsene Wenger out. If I was to religiously follow what I said, we should retain Wenger and be satisfied with what we've achieved. The answer to that is obvious. I didnt think it would that obvious to you, judging by all your posts, so I brought it up to make things easier for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekdown Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 when you look at how things progressed towards the end of the season and how lively all the youngsters were mid-way through the campaign you have to ask yourself whether they would have been better had they been given more exposure and its always a gamble when you think that way. No one can say for sure that andy will score goals like he did at Newcastle and its the same with any other team as well. If they don't gel well you've got issues but these are usually noticeable with players that have gone through the early years and are now intermediates in their careers. When you have fresh blood you can still turn them into the players you want them to be. Kenny has very good man-management skills and he has a plan so I am hoping that all these players surrounded by the veterans fosters better team-play and less individual skill because thats the way L'pool were playing in the late 80s / early 90s and it started to show its face again towards the end of last season. Kenny has the best man management skills for me. Its not easy to retire as a world class player and immediately take up a manager spot and be successful. Kenny magically did that. The guy is an absolute genius and is a person I admire and respect. The moment he took over Liverpool, you could just sense how the fans and the club felt so lifted in spirits and confidence and they werent wrong. He delivered. Contrary to a lot of critics and maybe what even I might have said in the past, I think Liverpool are title contenders next season. The will be the dark horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad2689 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 United kick-off summer spree by beating Liverpool to £16m Rovers defender Jones Really like that kid. he can play as CB, SB or DMF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekdown Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Apparently hes already having a medical at Man Utd. What a signing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel81x Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 hes got energy I will give him that good signing. Now the question beckons about who is getting off-loaded to usher in his presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekdown Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Nani and Berbatov is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhar Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Phil Jones signs for Man Utd for 16 million pounds. Alex Sanchez hasnt signed the contract for Barcelona, and his now mulling over to switch to Man Utd for 30 Million Pounds, since his playing time on pitch will be more as compared to at Camp Nou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekdown Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) Apparently Jones failed his medical at Man Utd. Wonder if they will still sign him. Last player they did that with was Hargreaves and he has hardly played. Edited June 8, 2011 by shekdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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