rockstarnet Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 "We had a lot of offers from every top league in Europe. If you look at the whole package, then Tottenham was the best choice. "Andre Villas-Boas is especially convincing. This is a top coach. The decision to leave Schalke and join Tottenham came in mid-December. And it was very hard for us to choose." Noack added that a transfer to Spurs in the January transfer window had not been discussed. He continued: "The agreement says: [in the] summer. If a winter move was possible, I can't say right now, because we didn't talk about that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 @hope... Chelsea did not destroy Torres' career man... Liveprool destroyed and sold him to Chelsea... Did you know that he was made to play in liverpool with a lingering injury because a lot of l'pool players were underperforming? His knee went beyond repair during his last season in L'pool.. A reason why he underperformed in WC and had a bad 2011 in l'pool... Liverpool just pushed him away to Chelsea.. And Chelsea still respected him and dint bring a 2nd striker after Drogba left to give him a lot of time to get back to fitness.. Everyone in liverpool medical team expected Torres to fail the medical at chelsea if he was subject to an intensive one.. But he did not have a complete medical because of the hurried nature in which he was transferred to Chelsea.. http://en-prosa.tumblr.com/post/36326276870/today-i-gathered-some-facts-about-fernandos You as an hardcore Torres fan should know this man.. . I would recommend you to read this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Ba will play as he was registered before 12 noon yesterday Edited January 4, 2013 by Zackster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie G Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 @hope... Chelsea did not destroy Torres' career man... Liveprool destroyed and sold him to Chelsea... Did you know that he was made to play in liverpool with a lingering injury because a lot of l'pool players were underperforming? His knee went beyond repair during his last season in L'pool.. A reason why he underperformed in WC and had a bad 2011 in l'pool... Liverpool just pushed him away to Chelsea.. And Chelsea still respected him and dint bring a 2nd striker after Drogba left to give him a lot of time to get back to fitness.. Everyone in liverpool medical team expected Torres to fail the medical at chelsea if he was subject to an intensive one.. But he did not have a complete medical because of the hurried nature in which he was transferred to Chelsea.. http://en-prosa.tumblr.com/post/36326276870/today-i-gathered-some-facts-about-fernandos You as an hardcore Torres fan should know this man.. :threatenlumber:/> . I would recommend you to read this! Did you know we let him have surgery so that he could play in the WC ? He was class with Liverpool even in his last 4 months .He scored 9 league goals in 18 appearances and that was when we were struggling in 9th place.Compare that to Chelsea he has scored 14 league goals in 60 appearances. We made him ,we did not destroy him.he destroyed himself by choosing the wrong club and leaving the club where he was idolized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie G Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Good points... But... 1. Chelsea may lose a lot of money... But they earned enough last yr to not affect a yr without CL.. 5-6 new sponsors and around 45mill in CL money.. Still more than what arsenal would earn in 2 CL QF exits 2. About walcot.. CLearly playing him in CF means they are giving in to his demands.. 3. What you say means Arsenal are a SeLLING CLUB? are arsenal so poor to sell of persie for 8-10 million more to manU than other interested clubs? I would on any day be happy to see Mata go to Barca for 5M than to a rival PL club for 40M.. This sale clearly shows they dont consider manU as rivals... So obviously its a letdown... you should have seen arsenal fans like Piers morgan react to RVP's transfer in twitter... see levy.. he dint sell modric to Chelsea though we offered 40million and sold to RM for 33 million after a yr... What he did was rite.. You dont sell ur best players to ur rivals when you know it greatly strengthens them..! (though as a Chelsea fan i was pissed.. :bigyellowgrin:/> ) 4. About respect among fans.. noone likes a big spending club.. Free.. But eventually people will love them if they win trophies.. Chelsea have more fans than arsenal now.. Its a fact!.. 5. Yes we spend a lot of money... But we made a profit last yr.. Arsenal maks profit every year.. THen why don they spend? 7mill for Ba is not a big expenditure.. They could have easily got him in summer or even a week ago.. 6. FFP will be coming soon.. you will have to spend what you earn! 1-You are comparing 1 season of victory to 12 seasons of qualification out of the group stage 2-Or the fact that Giroud has flopped and Podolski is out of form ? 3-City for 17m or United for 24 ? The Modric saga is where even Spurs fans will say levy goofed up .They lost close to 10 million on him when they could have sold him for 45 .As a brlliant businessman it was 1 of his few failings 4-1 loyal fan >100 Glory hunter fans I respect Chelsea fans who were with Chelsea before Abrahimovich .Its always easy to support a successful club .The measure of a true fan is not when the team is winning but when a team is in adversity . 5-The reason we (Liverpool ) or Arsenal or united did not buy Rumor ( Baa is because of insurance issues.Baa cannot be insured because of his knees.That is the reason that no one bought him despite his low price .)ALso anyone who knows Chelsea knows Baa is there just till Falcao arrives 6-Its because of clubs like Chelsea that UEFA have had to use FFP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Did you know we let him have surgery so that he could play in the WC ? He was class with Liverpool even in his last 4 months .He scored 9 league goals in 18 appearances and that was when we were struggling in 9th place.Compare that to Chelsea he has scored 14 league goals in 60 appearances. We made him ,we did not destroy him.he destroyed himself by choosing the wrong club and leaving the club where he was idolized Yes I know.. Chelsea obviously does'nt suit him.. But this blog seems to have shown an insight to what L'pool management did to him... I am blaming neither the fans nor torres .. Only Chelsea bid for him and he left.. He still loves liverpool.. Said a few times while at Chelsea already... i don't blame l'pool management to have treated him this way... CHelsea's management are worse.. they treat veteran players and managers like crap... l'pool wanted a quick way out and sold their best player to a club which they knew wouldn suit him.. Too bad it destroyed his career.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) @hope... Chelsea did not destroy Torres' career man... Liveprool destroyed and sold him to Chelsea... None (apparently)... It was a bad injury to his knee from which he never fully recovered and hence failed to find his original game back. Now the fact that whether Liverpool or Torres or both knew about the repercussions of that injury and hid it deliberately so as to save his personal career is not known but regardless of that, Torres is not the same El-Nino post that injury. Period! Edited January 4, 2013 by Madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Players heal and come back.But even after all these years he lacks confidence and for that i blame chelsea.He is still not settled in chelsea i feel.They have destroyed him.On the other hand you could also say that Torres failed to adapt to Chelsea style of football. I am still not able to figure out why he plays like this.Its not if he has forgotten how to play football.He is just so unsure dont know why.His shooting has become very bad though. So BA will start today instead of torres <_</> Edited January 4, 2013 by hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) 1-You are comparing 1 season of victory to 12 seasons of qualification out of the group stage 2-Or the fact that Giroud has flopped and Podolski is out of form ? 3-City for 17m or United for 24 ? The Modric saga is where even Spurs fans will say levy goofed up .They lost close to 10 million on him when they could have sold him for 45 .As a brlliant businessman it was 1 of his few failings 4-1 loyal fan >100 Glory hunter fans I respect Chelsea fans who were with Chelsea before Abrahimovich .Its always easy to support a successful club .The measure of a true fan is not when the team is winning but when a team is in adversity . 5-The reason we (Liverpool ) or Arsenal or united did not buy Rumor ( Baa is because of insurance issues.Baa cannot be insured because of his knees.That is the reason that no one bought him despite his low price .)ALso anyone who knows Chelsea knows Baa is there just till Falcao arrives 6-Its because of clubs like Chelsea that UEFA have had to use FFP 12 seasons?.... I thought 16... Anyway Chelsea have qualified for the last 9 seasons as well with 4 SF and 2 final.. Giroud has been playing much better for the past 2 months!! I was a CHelsea fan before Abram... And please don't talk about plastic fans and non plastic fans!! Chelsea had plastic fans in the first 4-5 yrs of Abramovic era.. Not now... anyway it is the Plastic fans who eventually become loyal fans!! But to not even be able to have plastic fans is a pity!! Btw Chelsa IMO have had much tougher times in the last 3 seasons than Arsenal... We were in limbo half the 2010-11 season and sucked like sh*t from nov to feb last season and are just as bad now... But coming back strongly even after struggling entire season IMO makes more loyal fans than Plastic... Being a Livpool fan you talk about chelsea's spending? You guys have spent nearly 250 million (buying - selling) in the last 5 years yourself! FFP is not for only for Chelsea but also for other clubs who pay players more than what they are worth! Again you are saying the same thing about RVP... Arsnal are financially much better than TH to sell a player to ur arch rival for making a hefty profit...!! Edited January 4, 2013 by Zackster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 @hope.. Probably he will start... Benitez will try to see how BA fits into the club in this tie before trying in the PL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 None (apparently)... It was a bad injury to his knee from which he never fully recovered and hence failed to find his original game back. Now the fact that whether Liverpool or Torres or both knew about the repercussions of that injury and hid it deliberately so as to save his personal career is not known but regardless of that, Torres is not the same El-Nino post that injury. Period! Keeping this mind, if anyone wants to read more about... http://en-prosa.tumblr.com/post/36326276870/today-i-gathered-some-facts-about-fernandos It is very important to read the above linked article for understanding whats below. Many of us thought that the reason in Fernando Torres’ sudden drop in form was due to him changing teams and not being able to adapt to Chelsea’s style of play. I believed that too, but it was actually Liverpool’s medical team failure to properly treat Torres of his knee injury and lying to him about his time of recovery in the hope that he would play more games, even though his injury had not fully healed. Spain call up to the World Cup meant he had to add more pressure on himself to become fully fit for the tournament. Had the Liverpool medical team gave him the full truth about the extent of his injury; he would have recovered fully and possibly return to his former self. That did not happen, instead he was added more pressure on his knee and thus made the injury worse when get got injured again in the final against the Netherlands. Fast forward another 6 months, where Torres’ problems at Liverpool became public and so was Chelsea’s interest in him. They finally agreed on a transfer on January 31st 2011, and Liverpool did not inform Chelsea of his knee problems. Something I think they chose to do to be able to sell him. As the transfer was done a few minutes before the end of the transfer; Chelsea did not have enough time to properly conduct a medical, meaning it basically was a routine checkup. Chelsea signed Torres not knowing the severity of his knee problems. Obviously, Chelsea discovered that later and worked with Torres hoping to completely eradicate his injury. But an injury of that severity would be nearly impossible to shake off. In a recent interview with Rafa Benitez, Ben Jacobs said that Fernando’s knee injury is degenerative and has been there since his time at Liverpool.. Chelsea are also at fault here; being so desperate for Fernando’s signature, they overlooked the fact that a proper medical could show the severity of his knee problem. Had they done that, Fernando Torres would not have been a Chelsea player and Chelsea would be 50 million pounds richer. The utter unprofessionalism of the Chelsea board of rushing into the Torres transfer is only a glimpse of how bad this club is run, signing players simply because the owner wants him. The sacking of Di Matteo, Ancelotti and the way Florent Malouda, Nicolas Anelka and how they are treating Frank Lampard and Ashley Cole in their contract talks is disgraceful. It seems Ron Gourlay and co. are only interested in being on Roman Abrahmovic’s good side. They care more about pleasing Roman that about the fans.. I have however, changed my mind about Fernando Torres. In the past couple of weeks I have been blaming him and criticizing him in nearly every Chelsea match. I have now come to the conclusion that it is not actually Torres miraculously becoming a bad player; it is rather the result of poor and dishonest treatment by the Liverpool medical team. The price tag didn’t help much as well.. This is totally not me saying that what was said is 100% true. This all could have been a coincidence, but I felt it was important to point it out. Tumblr is obviously not a reliable source, but after checking the links that were cited, it got me thinking that this might actually have happened. Torres did say that there things that happened at Liverpool that the media don’t know about, and played a huge factor in him wanting to leave.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner4life Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Again you are saying the same thing about RVP... Arsnal are financially much better than TH to sell a player to ur arch rival for making a hefty profit...!! What if the player doesnt want to go anywhere else but to the arch rival? Clubs can only accept a bid, if a player doesnt likes the club he won't go there.. We wanted to send him to Juventus, he refused.. City weren't willing to spend 24m on him, Barca/Real weren't interested.. We weren't trying to 'maximize profits', we only did what was logical & sold him while trying to get the max for him from United.. Also, you talk about Arsenal giving into Theo in his demands, but AW has been talking about Theo playing as a ST since he was signed as a 17yr old(just like now AW is saying that Chamberlain's future is in midfield even though he right now plays as a winger), it is not a recent 'demand' which Theo has brought up.. He wouldnt still be playing a ST if we had a RVP level player but Giroud/Podolski have both been going through an adaptation period & their form is fluctuating which resulted in Theo getting a chance upfront.. Get your facts right before you talk about something.. And most of your facts about the 'finances' of Chelsea are quite wrong.. You are in no way spending all this money just becoz you won the UCL, majority of it is bankrolled by your owner.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Oh finally you reply... I can sleep in peace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 So all of a sudden pool is responsible for destroying torres? We made him big. He was nobody when he transfered from athletico. How can pool be held responsible if he handed in the transfer req in the last days of the transfer window? He was just a nitwit who thought he'd do himself a favor if goes to chelsea. And if chelsea fans think we ruined him, you've got some serious butthurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 4-1 loyal fan >100 Glory hunter fans I respect Chelsea fans who were with Chelsea before Abrahimovich .Its always easy to support a successful club .The measure of a true fan is not when the team is winning but when a team is in adversity . Except for the respect part. i agree with all other points. You cant really say anything unless you know how he/she became a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 holy sh*t ! interwebz down for 2 days and came back just now, first thing i see is Demba Ba signing to be a chelseqa player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zackster Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 So all of a sudden pool is responsible for destroying torres? We made him big. He was nobody when he transfered from athletico. How can pool be held responsible if he handed in the transfer req in the last days of the transfer window? He was just a nitwit who thought he'd do himself a favor if goes to chelsea. And if chelsea fans think we ruined him, you've got some serious butthurt. read this http://en-prosa.tumblr.com/post/36326276870/today-i-gathered-some-facts-about-fernandos I am not accusing l'pool of anything.. i too thought that Chelsea destroyed his career before reading this which made me think otherwise!... This was compiled by a girl I follow in Twitter.... From what I have seen from her tweets and profile.. She is a torres fan and not a Chelsea fan!... It may all not be true... We ll only know when Torres reveals the truth himself... He has told many times after joining Chelsea that there is a big story behind his leaving l'pool... Who knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 You get a POS article, buy a Torres fan who will be..... hello.... biased, and that is the base for your argument? If he was injured why did he play? No one can force a professional footballer to play thro his pain barrier right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackster Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 My previous post was to say that it was not my argument.. I am not asking you to believe what the article says... ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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