WhiteWolf Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Only problem with ship level is the poorly designed combat scenarios ...Some parts are extremely frustrating.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Only problem with ship level is the poorly designed combat scenarios ...Some parts are extremely frustrating.. Are you serious? I played that level numerous time just to complete the opening part with complete stealth. It's not a perfect game, not even UC2 was. In UC3 I felt they rushed it at some parts of the game, like chloe and cutter just disappearing. The ending was rushed imho and the big mystery about atlantis of sand got lost in the game due to the big focus on Drake's relationship with Sully. Even ND said that they put a lot of pressure on themselves after announcing the release date of the game. So I think they did cut out some stuff from the game just to finish it on time. Friendly AI is poor sometimes. Competitive mp is good but not that great, haven't played co-operative mp so can't say. But all in all I liked it more than UC2. Due to the changes in enemy AI, the gun play becomes exciting unlike UC2. Some of the set pieces have open ended approach like the ship and ship yard level. You can go all guns blazing or you can go all stealth. Even with stealth the enemy AI is quite clever. Unlike the other game where you can swoop past them and they won't even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman™ Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Has anybody tried to complete The Abducted with stealth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Only problem with ship level is the poorly designed combat scenarios ...Some parts are extremely frustrating.. lol you are the reason why every second game is a COD clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montylee Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 The ship level was awesome. There's one flaw with the AI that eurogamer's review also pointed: If you are trying stealth, the moment even 1 enemy player sees you, all enemy players are notified and boom, there goes your stealth. And good point about Chloe and Cutter, they both disappeared in thin air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 They don't disappear. They talk it out and decide to leave. Cutter is anyway injured, and Chloe thinks its not worth fighting for, as she tries to convince Drake too, who obviously doesn't listen. Once they have abandoned the quest, there's no reason for them to show up again, particularly since the rest of the game takes place in Yemen etc. which is far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montylee Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 hmm ok, looks like i forgot that part but i would have loved to see more of Chloe, her role was really toned down in this, same goes for Elena but i guess ND already mentioned that some time back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarishProGamer Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Guys, I discussed this several times....... And most of you who actually played UC2 and UC3 till death knows.. Which is a better Game! The Day when I heard UC3 is coming within the same 2 years span, I knew 100%, Uncharted 2:Among Thieves can't be Topped! Yes I am aware of the ND's pedigree. Still You just can't make a sequel a better to an already perfect Game! Uncharted 2 does so many things right and few wrong, thats not the case with UC3... It has got many wrong but few rights that were far better than UC2. Ok, So you guys want me to go to detail.....Fine then... Story:- Even though UC2 story was not that spectacular but it was well told and kept the pacing well, TBH It had a certain Goal! But UC3 tried too much to tell the tale, It got lost between The Atlantis of Sands and Drake-Sully relationship! There were many plot holes and few questions were left to be answered! The characters were not given even roles, They just got disappeared and the others jumped suddenly... This Game is only about Drake & Suly, The rest are all just a cameo! Gameplay:- No complains both are equally good with few pros and cons. Not going to details.. like sometimes UC3 felt too stiff in shooting mechanics! Again the pacing problem in UC3.. 1st half completly focusses on puzzles and the second half is just action. It just gets over within 10 hrs. and mind you I have witnessed every Visual canvas part by part, While UC2 took me around some 14+ hrs. UC2 pacing was well balanced. It picks up at the start, gets at peak then slows down in Himalayas and then again goes to Peak..... The only one thing UC3 does better is in the puzzles department, There were some really clever puzzles this time that were worth. Sound:- Not much to complain here, Both nailed from background Score to Old Orchestra theme... Everything works just fine when you are exploring beautiful areas. Visuals:- Perhaps this is the only department when UC3 is ahead of UC2. Not a major difference but yes UC3 is clearly better than UC2 when it comes to visuals... the most noticeable elements are Water,Fire,Sand. But the one element that blew my mind is the HDR,Lightening Effects. Never ever seen in console gaming, GOW III Comes close. Multiplayer:- Considering UC3 a sequel to UC2, I will say both are even at the offering they gave in their time. UC2 was simply wow! because of the factor that it was the 1st Action Adventure Game that has the multiplayer that was somewhat comparable to many Industry's Best! Uncharted 2 is a 9.7/10 game in my books, and after spending much time on UC3, I say its a solid 9.1/10. Bahut zyaada hi bol diya, I Admit Rocksteady Studios simply stole the show this Fall from NDs!! the risk and the amount of Dedication they have given to Batman by listening to most of their fans is simply Sorry ND but you are still one of my Best Dev. of this Modern Era. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Uncharted 3 suffers from the same problem that god of war 3 does. Both their prequels set such a high standard that it was always going to be a herculean task to just match it, let alone outdo it. The only reason gow 3 gets a lot less flak is because they releasrd the game on a different console generation and ND didn't have that luxury. Don't kid yourself. GOW changed quite a bit, including the weapons, some amazing boss fights and the way you used the weapons was totally new. The Hercules gauntlets are my fav of all GOW weapons. The boss fights are probably the most memorable. They took brutality up a couple of notches and generally made the game awesome-er. Granted there were moments of fallacy like the Guitar Hero sequence and the end could have left some disappointed but I know it's only one of the 4 games that I've started and finished twice, back to back. Well, except the NES or SNES age coz I had wary fewer games then UC3 on the other hand felt a step down. Nay, it is a step down. I'm still more likely to play through UC2 than UC3. It was extremely difficult to top but that's what makes good developers great. Topping themselves. Half of them are pissed because the game is not on PC and other half because its not on Xbox. Okay I LOL'd They don't disappear. They talk it out and decide to leave. Cutter is anyway injured, and Chloe thinks its not worth fighting for, as she tries to convince Drake too, who obviously doesn't listen. Once they have abandoned the quest, there's no reason for them to show up again, particularly since the rest of the game takes place in Yemen etc. which is far away. Yeah well why was Chloe needed then? I mean if they repeat someone who can get me er.. squirmy, they better use her and use her well. f**k there are so many things ND dropped the ball in this one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Don't kid yourself. GOW changed quite a bit, including the weapons, some amazing boss fights and the way you used the weapons was totally new. The Hercules gauntlets are my fav of all GOW weapons. The boss fights are probably the most memorable. They took brutality up a couple of notches and generally made the game awesome-er. Granted there were moments of fallacy like the Guitar Hero sequence and the end could have left some disappointed but I know it's only one of the 4 games that I've started and finished twice, back to back. Well, except the NES or SNES age coz I had wary fewer games then UC3 on the other hand felt a step down. Nay, it is a step down. I'm still more likely to play through UC2 than UC3. It was extremely difficult to top but that's what makes good developers great. Topping themselves. i dont agree. God of war 3 is the weakest game in the Trilogy. the incredible level designs from the first to games all but disappeared and instead we got magical portals that transported us from one level to another. The titans themselves were not as they were initially planned and really they used all but two of them and you get to fight neither. also, when the initial reveal came, it was said that the titans would have their own individual behaviors were the game designers wont pre-determine how the titans would behave while climbing olympus, this was no where to be found. TBH the lack of titans was the biggest disappointment i had with GOW 3 The boss fights themselves are no where as good as the ones in the previous two. the middle section was complete filler (labyrinth & giant enemy spider. lol) and the story takes a complete U turn as it gets near the end. Dont get me wrong, Gow 3 is still a fantastic game but is nowhere good as the previous two games, esp part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 My reaction after completing God Of War 3 and after completing UC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HundredProofSam Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Even the PSP games were better than GOW3. It's not a good thing when the high point of the game is the first boss fight. What a boss fight it was though. And Uncharted 3 was a very good game. It just wasn't a massive jump forward, and it definitely wasn't a step back. People expected too much form ND. And it's unfair because same people are content with playing the same Assassin's Creed game three years running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Yeah, it's got its lows but for me the highs of punching in Hercules, ripping off that sun guy and the lighting effects in Hades' battle etc. were higher than any in the previous games. The Cronos (Kronos?) battle was just incredible. Plus those gauntlets..i still boot the game to punch with them some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Damn how did I not include the Poseidon boss fight..! And no, the PSP games were kinda boring..especially Ghost of Sparta. That whole game is filler content. Edit Anyway, think we're missing the point here. Even if it was weaker than the previous two games according to you, it was still amazing to play on it's own. UC3 wasn't as much fun to play. @HPS who are you to judge who finds what fun to play..even if people like the same AC or the same CoD or the same FIFA every year, it's fun for them and worth their money. I felt UC3 just wasn't as much fun for my time and I have as much right to criticize it as I have to praise UC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclops Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 @HPS who are you to judge who finds what fun to play..even if people like the same AC or the same CoD or the same FIFA every year, it's fun for them and worth their money. I felt UC3 just wasn't as much fun for my time and I have as much right to criticize it as I have to praise UC2. So u can criticize and he cant ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HundredProofSam Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 So u can criticize and he cant ??? Exactly When did I tell you to praise Ghost of Sparta or UC3? Hate them all you want. I'm just giving my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarishProGamer Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Even the PSP games were better than GOW3. It's not a good thing when the high point of the game is the first boss fight. What a boss fight it was though. And Uncharted 3 was a very good game. It just wasn't a massive jump forward, and it definitely wasn't a step back. People expected too much form ND. And it's unfair because same people are content with playing the same Assassin's Creed game three years running. Ghost of Sparta was . Sometimes I feel GoS is better than GOW III, Sure 3 has its moments. The only part where 3 did wrong is the 1st Level, It simply raised the Bar so high (Damn! I even thought UC2 was nothing in front of it)... that the developers failed to maintain the same, The more bad was they simply let the Game go from their hands after the middle till the End. On UC3:- Yes its a very good Game, Sure people had expectations after the masterpiece UC2, Actually technically speaking its a better Game than UC2 but not over all. I understand its almost impossible to top UC2... But look at Rocksteady, Batman:AA was masterpiece and i genuinely feel Batman:AC is a better Game, They almost changed the Genre like the Fans wanted! Btw, you guys do know what happened to Assassins Creed:Revelations..... the same thing might happen to ND's next Uncharted untill and unless they come up with something new!! I Blame UC2 to be so much perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HundredProofSam Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 But look at Rocksteady, Batman:AA was masterpiece and i genuinely feel Batman:AC is a better Game, They almost changed the Genre like the Fans wanted! Ya, but Arkham City was so different in scope with the open ended nature of the game. Rocksteady's mandate is to basically make the best Batman game possible, and that means taking it in whatever direction necessary. Naughty Dog are quite clear about the kind of game Uncharted is, and they don't want to stray from that. It's explosive, scenic and cinematic, and they didn't change that in UC3. A lot of what made Arkham City better was due to the lack of linearity, but I thought Arkham Asylum was better in some areas. It felt tighter and more atmospheric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarishProGamer Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Ya, but Arkham City was so different in scope with the open ended nature of the game. Rocksteady's mandate is to basically make the best Batman game possible, and that means taking it in whatever direction necessary. Naughty Dog are quite clear about the kind of game Uncharted is, and they don't want to stray from that. It's explosive, scenic and cinematic, and they didn't change that in UC3. A lot of what made Arkham City better was due to the lack of linearity, but I thought Arkham Asylum was better in some areas. It felt tighter and more atmospheric. Yeah you got a point, and maybe one of the reasons that Naughty Dog didn't had much to improve upon the formula the UC2 is. On the other hand it's Rocksteady's first Game and they can almost do various experiments like the case with AC. I genuinely feel Batman:AC is the Uncharted 2 of 2011. They just ramped up everything AA has and made it in a Grander Scale, I miss the scarecrow sequences though!. Now is the time to judge where both these studios will go next after delivering everything they got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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