avkash Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 First Crytek shifted from a palace to a slum . Now they want a posh slum with 3 BHK and toilet attachd Crytek tera baap console kharidne ke liye paisa bharenga kya it's amusing that tech savvy folks such as yourselves make statements like "who needs 8gb ram?". 6 years ago sony and microsoft decided to put in 256/512mb ram on their systems and look where we are today... you go to buy a new computer today and the defacto standard is 4gb ram. what do you think the standard will be in 2020, when the next gen of consoles are 6 years into their lifecycles? you do realize that the standard you are referring to is for Computers secondly i am all for an 8GB RAM in a console if it can support multitasking (like two parallel games on the same console, one for me one for my brother who can simultaneously log in), has wonderful browsers, has document, image, movie editing software, can install software like Eclipse and Flash-builder and help me code and finally run a build of Window 10 or Mac OS XII, whatever else ... i think you got the point a Console is not a computer finally, a good game has nothing to with looking good, looking good certainly adds value but it is not the essential, tons of title out there that look good but are sh*t, tons more that look sh*t but are still good. (people still play contra, Street fighter 2, 3 !) Crytek just don't want to work harder to optimize their code, on PC they have that option, not here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 The XDR ram in PS3 costs 10 times more per MB than your standard DDR3 RAM in PCs. Imagine how much it'd cost if they decide to put 8GBs of XDR2 (which is even more expensive) in next console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboy Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 XDR is as fast as DDR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoctor Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 you do realize that the standard you are referring to is for Computers secondly i am all for an 8GB RAM in a console if it can support multitasking (like two parallel games on the same console, one for me one for my brother who can simultaneously log in), has wonderful browsers, has document, image, movie editing software, can install software like Eclipse and Flash-builder and help me code and finally run a build of Window 10 or Mac OS XII, whatever else ... i think you got the point a Console is not a computer so if it can't do all that, you don't want better hardware specs? you actually want the next gen of consoles to be as weak as possible that they can get away with? how can anyone say that what he is asking for is a bad thing. as a gamer, i would imagine your interests would not align with the hardware manufacturers who want to give as less as possible to save money, but rather with the programmers who want more to give you as much benefit as possible. but maybe that's just me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 XDR is as fast as DDR5 Yes, and 8GB DDR5 is like crossfiring two 6990s on PC. Asking for 8GB is ridiculous unless they're talking about slow-a*s system Ram from PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah, there needs to be a balance between storage and transfer rate. 2GB XDR ram @ 3.2GHZ speed is more than enough and will probably cost a lot. 8GB lolol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 so if it can't do all that, you don't want better hardware specs? you actually want the next gen of consoles to be as weak as possible that they can get away with? how can anyone say that what he is asking for is a bad thing. as a gamer, i would imagine your interests would not align with the hardware manufacturers who want to give as less as possible to save money, but rather with the programmers who want more to give you as much benefit as possible. but maybe that's just me... The thing is all this faptastic harware spec is good untill it is not out of reach of the buying junta. If the console wallahs can fit 8 gb ram and keep the price of the console to a reasonable figure no one would mind one bit. For example see the NGP, it has an awesome hardware spec but everyone is only concerned about the price it will ship with. It may be the best next gen handheld device hardware wise but it will fail if it is not priced reasonably. If Crytek can't make games without 8 gb RAM then they should stick to PC and leave the console peasant for studios like ND and MercurySteam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoctor Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 If Crytek can't make games without 8 gb RAM then they should stick to PC and leave the console peasant for studios like ND and MercurySteam. seriously? they just made one of the best looking games on a machine with 256mb and you're saying they 'can't make games without 8gb'? when you're done with your pointless rhetoric, try to apply a little common sense and realize that he's talking about a system that will come out 2 years from now and will last another 8 years after that. you're 25 years old now, you'll be 35 then. think about how much time in your life will have passed between that. do you really think 1gb ram will be okay in a dedicated gaming console in 2020 when you have mobile phones with 1gb of ram coming out today? and while we're at it, if naughty dog can do so much with so little, can you imagine what they would be able to do with much more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 and while we're at it, if naughty dog can do so much with so little, I don't agree with your logic, but hot damn that's what she said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 seriously? they just made one of the best looking games on a machine with 256mb and you're saying they 'can't make games without 8gb'? when you're done with your pointless rhetoric, try to apply a little common sense and realize that he's talking about a system that will come out 2 years from now and will last another 8 years after that. you're 25 years old now, you'll be 35 then. think about how much time in your life will have passed between that. do you really think 1gb ram will be okay in a dedicated gaming console in 2020 when you have mobile phones with 1gb of ram coming out today? and while we're at it, if naughty dog can do so much with so little, can you imagine what they would be able to do with much more? Dear Sir, First of all I didn't say they can't make games without 8 gb RAM, they are saying it. I am happy with Crysis 2 Secondly RAM is not only thing that makes a console, why we are stuck with it? Games on PS3 with 256 mb RAM look better that games on mobile phones having 1 gb RAM even today. So I don't see what your point is? Third, there is no definition for more. I can buy a car if I am a millionaire but I can buy a jet if I am a billionaire. That doesn't mean I suck because I am a millionaire and can only buy a car. Keep on posting having fun after a long time EDIT: How did you know my age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 XDR is much faster than DDR 5.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sackboy Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 XDR is much faster than DDR 5.... Around 10-20% infact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 EDIT: How did you know my age In your profile. Next to 'Age:' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 XDR is much faster than DDR 5.... No, when XDR came out it was mush faster than GDDR3 but GDDR5 caught up eventually. XDR2 however is leagues ahead of latest GDDR and can be had in a single 4GB chip if required (GDDR5 is 2GB max right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 What happened here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 ^^Something was faster than something else. We are still trying to figure out what. And apparently according to some people Crytek cant make games and should stick to the PC. O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 ^^Something was faster than something else. We are still trying to figure out what. And apparently according to some people Crytek cant make games and should stick to the PC. O.o After reading through the thick of things, I can draw only two possible conclusions: Either spin got trolled or spin is the troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 After reading through the thick of things, I can draw only two possible conclusions: Either spin got trolled or spin is the troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaio Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 i dont think it would be economically profitable to do that :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRch-0n Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 i dont think it would be economically profitable to do that :| What ? Trolling spin or spin trolling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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