CM Sunny Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Obviously they are,but right now (or before it was known that nintendo was going to announce wii2 rather) this development was going in a leisurely manner but now with Ninty and M$ going to announce their new console Sony will have to put -whichto the development of PS4. more money I guess it cant afford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choron ka raja Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 It most likely be a prototype or something, to show off to the pubic and steal ninty's thunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Yup....cause thats the only thing MS is gonna get from me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_3101 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 quite possible that MS has fastened up the process after the PSN disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Searching for the Next Xbox Where's the successor to the Xbox 360? We look for answers. For the last several weeks we've been subjected to information overload as leaks regarding Project Cafe, Nintendo's successor to the Wii, came from all directions at once. Microsoft was dragged into the fray last week, as Develop Magazine reported on the existence of new, next generation Xbox hardware. According to Develop, a confidential source outside of Microsoft and EA informed them that the third party publisher had new Xbox hardware "on desks at an unnamed Electronic Arts studio." Develop claimed the hardware was set for an E3 2011 reveal and a likely 2012 launch. This story was quickly followed by a report from Eurogamer courtesy of a separate confidential source, who insisted that an E3 2011 reveal was unlikely. Later Friday afternoon, contradicting earlier "No comment" responses, EA Director of Corporate Communications Jeff Brown stated to IGN and other outlets that the Develop story was "...a total fabrication - 100 percent not true." The question now is, is there a new Xbox system circulating out there? Despite Brown's assertions to the contrary, there's cause to believe that Develop's story is accurate... mostly. Let's break down the reasons why we think Microsoft will be jumping in to the next generation sooner than most people thought. Developers Are Asking for New Hardware This year's GDC was notable for the first really enthusiastic rumblings we've heard from developers that the time is nigh for more powerful console hardware. Epic Games, creators of this console cycle's most common middleware engine in Unreal Engine 3, unveiled what they euphemestically referred to as Unreal 3.5 - a seriously upgraded version of their engine with support for features that bring the current crop of HD consoles to their knees. At around the same time, Battlefield developers DICE showed off the stunning Battlefield 3, powered by their next-generation Frostbite 2.0 Engine. While Battlefield 3 is coming to the Xbox 360 and PS3, DICE has stated that the game is being designed around powerful PC hardware capable of things the consoles just can't manage very well. There's a message here, especially given the publisher/developer migration to consoles for big-budget development over the last 8 years and the growing prevalence of social and casual games on the PC platform. The issues that make big-budget PC development such a risk aren't going away - piracy and tech fragmentation have gotten worse, not better. There's also the fact that these developers made these statements at GDC, a conference for developers to interact with their peers and discuss the future of the medium. It's also a place for Epic to sell Unreal to other developers as a tool for their games. There's not a lot of reason for Epic to push a significantly upgraded and more demanding version of the Unreal Engine unless they have a reasonable expectation that there will be consoles to use it sooner, rather than later. Microsoft Is An Aggressive, Product Oriented Company. The Xbox 360 is closer to the success Microsoft wanted with the original Xbox, and the release of Kinect last year gave the system a shot in the arm in the marketplace. Still, we're on the ebb of the console cycle, and though this tends to be the most profitable moment of a console's lifetime, it also coincides with a low point in early-adopter and enthusiast interest. In all likelihood, Nintendo could be forcing Microsoft's hand with their Cafe release. While Cafe is unlikely to be a world-destroying technical powerhouse, it will be more powerful than the Xbox 360. Developers are also unlikely to jump on board right away to Nintendo's new system given the platform holder's complicated history with third parties, but it's still a moment where Microsoft isn't controlling the narrative of the hardcore experience, which has been their strongest tactic in the wake of the Xbox 360's release. In short, Microsoft isn't a company that will sit and watch Nintendo go after its bread and butter, the hardcore. Sony has also demonstrated twice now that a legacy product (for Microsoft in this case, the Xbox 360 S with Kinect) can continue to sell and do well with a different market segment after the release of successor hardware. It would stand to reason that Microsoft could release the new Xbox next Christmas while still selling Kinect equipped Xbox 360s to a different audience. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/116/1167019p1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 f**k a new 360, i would love MS to create a hand-held, don't know why are they avoiding the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 ..they can't compete in handheld market now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 they can, they just need a powerful machine and some official emulators to start of, then they can build upon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 MS won't venture in this market looking at competition, Zodka is right. 3DS is launched, NGP is in advance stage, you can expect anything else thrown in the mix to be DOA. In fact, NGP will have tough competition, by the time it launches 3DS will have half-a-dozen first party titles already out, its gonna be tough at beginning. Besides it hardly makes any sense to sway away from mainstream and try new waters for the search of unknown. they can, they just need a powerful machine and some official emulators to start of, then they can build upon it. Why do you need powerful machine to play retro games using emu? And do you seriously think that you will ever see SMB running on a MS device? In fact, NO company can officially support emulators, there are just too many legal issues to counter with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 f**k this.. give me my 4d tvs first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 MS won't venture in this market looking at competition, Zodka is right. 3DS is launched, NGP is in advance stage, you can expect anything else thrown in the mix to be DOA. In fact, NGP will have tough competition, by the time it launches 3DS will have half-a-dozen first party titles already out, its gonna be tough at beginning. Besides it hardly makes any sense to sway away from mainstream and try new waters for the search of unknown. but then that is where the future is. secondly in case you had not realized, 3DS sales have been underwhelming, as accepted by Nintendo itself and arguably according to general perception, the only good title available right now is SSF4 3D version a couple of people are actually waiting to see NGP at this year E3 and then decide Why do you need powerful machine to play retro games using emu? And do you seriously think that you will ever see SMB running on a MS device? In fact, NO company can officially support emulators, there are just too many legal issues to counter with. there is absolutely no problem in licensed emulators, the problem is getting the licensed ROMs with a history of games on windows then can get them easy too, IMO anyways powerful device so that they can support the old XBox games on that but typically MS way they will wait to see what the opposition has to offer and then will learn from their mistakes and create one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 What a load of nonsense. Why would they ever make handhelds? The biggest handheld market (infact the only strong handheld market) right now is Japan. And MS is DOA in Japan no matter what they do. I mean hell, Nintendo who have come off two of the biggest selling consoles of all time (DS and GBA) are struggling ATM with 3DS. Sony wont do much better with the NGP. It makes absolutely no business sense for MS to venture into the handheld market. Maybe 6-7 years ago it might have had an outside chance. Right now, the idea is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 in case you do not know, the sales of PSP, 3DS and DS itself have been extremely high in US, so there is a market shun all the debate about it, I just want it, I never said that they should do it. so much for a wish, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 What a load of nonsense. Why would they ever make handhelds? The biggest handheld market (infact the only strong handheld market) right now is Japan. And MS is DOA in Japan no matter what they do. No it's not. The DS has sold 50 million in US and EU respectively. Western markets are just saturated. This is a good opportunity for MS to build brand recognition in Japan with an handheld, and it will help the 360 as well. If Sony is successful with the NGP, then MS will jump in. No way they are gonna let Nintendo and Sony dominate the market. The only problem is that, they don't have enough first party studios to sustain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 No it's not. The DS has sold 50 million in US and EU respectively. Western markets are just saturated. This is a good opportunity for MS to build brand recognition in Japan with an handheld, and it will help the 360 as well. If Sony is successful with the NGP, then MS will jump in. No way they are gonna let MS and Sony dominate the market. The only problem is that, they don't have enough first party studios to sustain it. Nintendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah. Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah, I was typing fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoctor Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 If Sony is successful with the NGP, then MS will jump in. No way they are gonna let Nintendo and Sony dominate the market. The only problem is that, they don't have enough first party studios to sustain it. microsoft won't focus on dedicated handheld hardware like the ds or psp. they will aggressively push wp7. that's their mobile gaming platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 microsoft won't focus on dedicated handheld hardware like the ds or psp. they will aggressively push wp7. that's their mobile gaming platform. You never know. Yeah. Wrong. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoctor Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 You never know. true. but then again, they just made an 8.5 billion dollar investment into the telephony business. i think it's safe to say that they are focused on the mobile in general, as they should be. the era of dedicated console gaming will end eventually too. everything is going mobile now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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