ScrewyAurum Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 They are comparing Western RPGs only...If we included Japanese RPG devs , these guys dont stand a chance .... Its might have been true 5 years ago, the truth is jrpgs have been in decline since ps2 era..for me snes was the golden era for jrpgs with games like FF IV and VI, the secret of mana, chrono Trigger. But by todays standards most jrpgs havent evolved as much as their western counterparts (FFXIII case in point) For me games like deus ex and fallout are progression in the rpg genre with switching their perspectives, their gameplay, their storylines, non-linear progression, character creation, high replayability, and so much more to fit todays expectations. JRPGs are about set characters with a linear story, which is progressed through by very specific means. the Persona series, Trails in the Sky, make this work there are just too many games falling flat because of their specific and archaic mechanics. jrpgs are not dead, but they sure arent moving ahead. Until jap devs find a way to appeal to a wider more sophisticated audience, jrpgs will remain a niche style within a niche genre that will simply exist thanks to a few hardcore fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM Sunny Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Its might have been true 5 years ago, the truth is jrpgs have been in decline since ps2 era..for me snes was the golden era for jrpgs with games like FF IV and VI, the secret of mana, chrono Trigger. But by todays standards most jrpgs havent evolved as much as their western counterparts (FFXIII case in point) For me games like deus ex and fallout are progression in the rpg genre with switching their perspectives, their gameplay, their storylines, non-linear progression, character creation, high replayability, and so much more to fit todays expectations. JRPGs are about set characters with a linear story, which is progressed through by very specific means. the Persona series, Trails in the Sky, make this work there are just too many games falling flat because of their specific and archaic mechanics. jrpgs are not dead, but they sure arent moving ahead. Until jap devs find a way to appeal to a wider more sophisticated audience, jrpgs will remain a niche style within a niche genre that will simply exist thanks to a few hardcore fans. You do realise that the niche game you are talking about are far, faaaar better than 'press A to run' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Until jap devs find a way to appeal to a wider more sophisticated audience, jrpgs will remain a niche style within a niche genre that will simply exist thanks to a few hardcore fans. Thats the exact same reason why JRPGs are falling back in the race, trying to please westerners instead of sticking to their quirky roots (case in point FFXIII). And all they end up doing is boring gameplay with bad voice acting. The best JRPGs are on portable, not consoles for the same reason, they don't have to worry about us on DS/PSP, heck half of them are not even localized unless westerners constantly beg for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyAurum Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 you are bashing something you havent even played... whatever that was my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Its not just JRPGs that are facing this problem.... but japanese games in general , that are trying to become mainstream but forgetting their roots(hence losing their fanbase).... look at Dmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyAurum Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 yea for godsakes they are outsourcing games now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoken Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 They definitely have the skill .... they just dont know which direction to take the game to get both Sales + acclaim from fans/critics ..... hence why portables are their new home the former doesnt really matter when the dev cost is barely anything (and as a bonus you also get a wider audience in japan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted December 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 I have played Skyrim for 14 hrs now, and NOT ONCE did any guard say that. same here and iam over 150 hours into Skyrim..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted December 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 ..WRPG >>>> JRPG..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyAurum Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 same here and iam over 150 hours into Skyrim..... I heard a lot of them say it..usually the ones outside any jarls hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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