Cyberpunk 2077

[Heaven Angel]

 

 

 

[playstationdude]

6 minutes ago, KnackChap said:

 

Bhai mere, even the so called LGBT folks in our country don't think highly about our transgender community. I have a gay friend and he calls them all sort of names if he sees them near a signal (cha**a etc) but kabhi kiran johar ko kuch bol do toh isko mirchi lag jaati hai.

 

Tbh the common folks respect the transgender community (out of love or fear) more than their so called LGBTQ crusaders. 

 

 

Yeah that's  my point. This is a good way to remove stigma and give them jobs. If you're casting a non trans person for the role you are pretty much doing injustice to the community.

[dylanjosh]

3 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

 

Never understood this crap. Getting mad over pronoun usage... 

 

People have way too much time for all this garbage stuff. 

 

Its okay to not understand something, but it's not garbage lol. 

[roun90]

It's absolutely ridiculous.

 

I mean - the entire outrage was over a f***ing poster. I doubt CDPR even thought anything beyond - We need a Cyberpunk themed Poster, and since a CP universe is filled with excess, let's show this as a generic poster. It would have been forgotten and 99% of the people would not even have seen it. I think originally the poster was even magnified for it to be observed. The focus on this is entirely the fault of Reset era and their type of people.

 

Now people are even cosplaying as that poster character. Even if they wanted to CDPR can't control it because those are not employees, they are cosplayers. CDPR can't control what they cosplay as. Now, the character has become so popular that there will most probably be an NPC made of it - and I highly doubt CDPR is going to bother searching for a trans person to voice him/her. Considering the sales, I also doubt whether CDPR is even bothered by these types of opinions.

 

The only thing this is going to affect is - the list of "Who is going to get the freebies and press kits for review". Considering the popularity CDPR has now, I don't even think they need a ton of press. Some YouTube videos uploaded by CDPR themselves and videos like Night City Wire is more than enough. Maybe some major reviewers like IGN etc. That's all. They need the 3rd party press like Rockstar needs 3rd party press for a new GTA Game. It's the streamers/random youtubers/bloggers who are at a loss here.

 

[hsk_colossus]

11 minutes ago, KnackChap said:

 

Bhai mere, even the so called LGBT folks in our country don't think highly about our transgender community. I have a gay friend and he calls them all sort of names if he sees them near a signal (cha**a etc) but kabhi kiran johar ko kuch bol do toh isko mirchi lag jaati hai.

 

Tbh the common folks respect the transgender community (out of love or fear) more than their so called LGBTQ crusaders. 

 

 

Anecdotal examples should not be used for generalization.

[dylanjosh]

6 minutes ago, roun90 said:

I mean - the entire outrage was over a f***ing poster. I doubt CDPR even thought anything beyond - We need a Cyberpunk themed Poster, and since a CP universe is filled with excess, let's show this as a generic poster. It would have been forgotten and 99% of the people would not even have seen it. I think originally the poster was even magnified for it to be observed. The focus on this is entirely the fault of Reset era and their type of people.

 

 

Disagree here. Its literally their job to put thought into their posters and any media they make. 

 

6 minutes ago, roun90 said:

CDPR can't control what they cosplay as.

 

 

They can control who they highlight. 

 

Edited December 7, 2020 by dylanjosh

[Right]

5 minutes ago, dylanjosh said:

They can control who they highlight. 

I think that will be simply giving in to wokeness.
Woke won't stop finding something or other that "offends" them, to create Tamasha.

 

Heard about gender-fluidity?

Imagine having a coworker who has different pronouns on each day of the week.

[b!T]

What's unfortunate is that, LGBTQ+ folks having valid problems will not be taken seriously with all these wokeness.

[radicaldude]

1 minute ago, Right said:

I think that will be simply giving in to wokeness.
Woke won't stop finding something or other that "offends" them, to create Tamasha.

 

Heard about gender-fluidity?

Imagine having a coworker who has different pronouns on each day of the week.

 

This cant be deemed as normal. Such a person needs serious help IMO

[roun90]

24 minutes ago, dylanjosh said:

Disagree here. Its literally their job to put thought into their posters and any media they make. 

 

I disagree. It's a random poster in some random area in a game which has 1000s of posters. They most probably just put in a random poster generator and brought it out. The thought that went into it is as much as the thought that goes into Random Machine Generated "Radiant" Quests in Skyrim.

 

24 minutes ago, dylanjosh said:

They can control who they highlight. 

 

Of course they will highlight her. First up, in a contest if it's a good cosplay it's their job to highlight it. Second, as the saying goes "No publicity is bad publicity". If the Era people had not raised such a hue and cry (Magnifying the random poster by almost 200% I think), that character would not have literally become a poster-child for the game, next to Keanu Reeves. It's just putting the game name out and causing that much more hype - even if people criticize it to the end. No one would even have bothered to cosplay as her/him if leftists had not raised such a hue and cry. How many cosplays are you seeing of the other posters? They have only themselves to blame.

Edited December 7, 2020 by roun90

[CarbonCore]

3 minutes ago, adity said:

All things considered, I feel most of us are normal people here and should avoid falling into resetera or gaf madness

 

Yeah I'd personally never go to either extremes, but if you put a gun to my head and made me choose, I'll definitely not side with the neo-Nazi mask-denier MAGA assholes.

[b!T]

4 minutes ago, adity said:

All things considered, I feel most of us are normal people here and should avoid falling into resetera or gaf madness

 

This. It's a slippery slope.

[hsk_colossus]

11 minutes ago, b!T said:

What's unfortunate is that, LGBTQ+ folks having valid problems will not be taken seriously with all these wokeness.

It’s not like they were being taken seriously before.. so it’s no lose situation for them basically... 

[b!T]

1 minute ago, adity said:

It also risks outing some of us as actual f**king bigots and I'm not up for that drama either. 

 

Most people are just ignorant or can't relate to it. Bigots are there but not all of them are that way while understanding both sides.

[radicaldude]

Arey reviews kab ayengey? 

[b!T]

2 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said:

It’s not like they were being taken seriously before.. so it’s no lose situation for them basically... 

 

Their existence is recognised better than say, 20 years ago. Not to a level where it's supposed to be at but improvement is definitely there. Problem is, there is a fine line between fighting for equality and forcing totalitarian agenda. And, most people do not have the ability to distinguish between both. 

 

I will admit that 10 years ago, I would have come across as a bigot unintentionally just because of my ignorance on the subject. Not saying I am a know it all now but I can relate better nowadays.

[Ne0]

 

2 hours ago, CarbonCore said:

 

That's not true. I'm pretty sure its a human shaped tree that became self aware at some point.

 

Its different for minorities though, especially those that don't get the job because of their sex/race etc. For eg in our country if you're dark skinned you don't get cast in saas/bahu serials. So when you make a serial about a dark girl and her troubles, and then you cast a fair girl and paint her black before every episodes, its a pretty shitty thing to do. Especially when the country has disproportionately large dark skin population.

 

 

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1 hour ago, playstationdude said:

Problem is trans people are anyway marginalised world over in all jobs/education (talking about kinnars purely, not the ones who suddenly become self aware that I identify as a chick and not a dude like ellen page). So this is a good chance for them to be included in work. 

 

Good points.  Its about inclusiveness and not just about being right/wrong.  While the society has more or less accepted the L/G/B communities, T has always been very poorly received everywhere.  I think the whole point of that thread is that they are pissed off with being continually stereotyped/misappropriated (like the person in that pic is a highly stereotyped version of what some imagine them to be, while in reality it may not be the case).  When NYT made a cartoon of India's entry to space race, many people in India were offended too.  Nobody likes being treated like that.  While, banning people who like the game / closing game threads etc. was a little heavy handed,  I think people at large also should understand the angst/pain of that community, the insecurities they face at being stereotyped and perhaps be a little more inclusive/compassionate to them.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Ne0

[dylanjosh]

33 minutes ago, Right said:

I think that will be simply giving in to wokeness.
Woke won't stop finding something or other that "offends" them, to create Tamasha.

 

Heard about gender-fluidity?

Imagine having a coworker who has different pronouns on each day of the week.

 

 

How do you distinguish between a genuine concern and fake wokeness?

[roun90]

8 minutes ago, adity said:

All things considered, I feel most of us are normal people here and should avoid falling into resetera or gaf madness

 

Yup, same opinion. Unless the game is going out of it way to purposely insult a set of people - which I don't think CDPR is doing atm, it should be ignored.

 

6 minutes ago, CarbonCore said:

 

Yeah I'd personally never go to either extremes, but if you put a gun to my head and made me choose, I'll definitely not side with the neo-Nazi mask-denier MAGA assholes.

 

Same. Still can't get how people are so ready to call an obvious pandemic a hoax and putting so many people's lives on the line. Also, just can't picture how people even think calling themselves Nazis is any way good or belittling so many people's lives to the point that even death and slavery is OK. These people remind me of the modern day "White Man's Burden" Believers/Title-Holders.

[hsk_colossus]

8 minutes ago, Ne0 said:

 

 

I think people at large also should understand the angst/pain of that community, the insecurities they face at being stereotyped and perhaps be a little more inclusive/compassionate to them.

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