NTSC console + SDTV + EU/PAL PS3 games = 80028F10(You cannot play this game at the current video output setting)

[TheCoCkyRussian]

2 of the games/demos downloaded from PSN EU is not working on NTSC console hooked to SDTV. The games are Tekken and GTHD. However these titles work great on HDTV setup. I assumed that other demos/titles on PSN EU store are multicoded with PAL and NTSC and HD. In SDTV mode, the console will force-output its native console signal (NTSC), but in HDTV mode, the NTSC/PAL restriction is not an issue anymore. As we know that some PSN contents are affected with this limitation, I wonder if this problem also affect disc-based titles? I know that Sony already stated PS3 games are region-free, but are they region-free for HDTV only or including SDTV as well?

 

 

UPDATE:

 

*Certain disc-based PS3 games are affected as well*

 

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These are what I believe happened for PS3 (BD games & PSN contents, not movie DVDs & PS1 & PS2 games):

The contents are either coded in:

 

1) NTSC-SD and HD

2) PAL-SD and HD

3) NTSC-SD and PAL-SD and HD

 

*some contents are NTSC-less/PAL-less but also in SD, and this is not a concern

 

Case a:

NTSC console + HDTV + Multicoded contents (NTSC+PAL+HD coded)

The console will try to output in HD mode to HDTV = titles worked

 

Case b:

NTSC console + SDTV + Multicoded contents (same as above)

The console will output NTSC-SD content only = titles worked

 

Case c:

NTSC console + SDTV + PAL-coded contents (PAL-SD and HD)

The console will refuse to play the PAL-SD content ["This game is not supported. (80028F10)"] or ["You cannot play this game at the current video output setting. (80028F10)"] on new firmware.

 

#All of the above are purely based on my observation/conjecture, and I might be wrong. Please correct if you feel there is anything wrong

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So anyone here can confirm which EU/PAL PS3 disc-based games worked with NTSC consoles in SDTV setup?

This might save someone that import consoles and play locally-released titles from buying a non-working disc title.

Gamestores here do not accept opened games for return. I hope this post can collate and compile list of working games on SDTV.

 

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PSN EU/UK/PAL CONTENTS:

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List of unaffected titles:

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Blast Factor (demo & full)

Calling All Cars

Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (demo)

Heavenly Sword (demo)

Mortal Kombat 2

Lemmings (demo & full)

Super Rub-a-Dub (demo & full)

Super StarDust HD (demo & full)

Warhawk

 

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List of affected titles:

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Tekken: Dark Resurrection

GTHD 2.0

The Simpsons (demo)

 

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BLU-RAY BASED GAMES:

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List of unaffected titles:

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Assassin's Creed (PAL)

Burnout Paradise (PAL)

Call of Duty 4 (PAL)

Clive Barker's Jericho (PAL)

 

Club, The (PAL)

 

Darkness (The), (PAL)

 

Dark Sector (PAL)

Def Jam: ICON (PAL)

 

Devil May Cry 4 (PAL)

Fifa 08 (PAL)

Fight Night Round 3 (PAL)

Formula 1: Championship Edition (PAL)

 

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PAL)

 

Harry Potter 5 (PAL)

 

Kane and Lynch (PAL)

 

Lego Star Wars: Complete Saga(PAL)

 

Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (PAL)

 

MotorStorm (PAL)

 

NBA Live 08 (PAL)

Need For Speed Carbon (PAL)

Need For Speed ProStreet (PAL)

Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PAL)

 

Orange Box, The (PAL)

Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PAL)

Rainbow Six: Vegas (PAL)

 

Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (PAL)

 

Resistance: Fall of Man (PAL)

Sega Rally Revo (PAL)

SingStar (PAL)

Skate (PAL)

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 (PAL)

Transformers: The Game (PAL)

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (PAL)

Virtua Fighter 5 (PAL)

Virtua Tennis 3 (PAL)

 

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List of affected titles:

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Army of Two (PAL)

 

Beowulf (PAL)

Bladestorm (PAL)

Call of Duty 3 (PAL)

 

Dynasty Warriors: Gundam (PAL)

 

F.E.A.R (PAL)

Folklore (PAL)

Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (PAL)

 

Heavenly Sword (PAL)

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (PAL)

NBA2K7 (PAL)

NHL 08 (PAL)

Oblivion (PAL)

WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 (PAL)

Spider-Man (PAL)

Tiger Woods 07 (PAL)

 

Turning Point: Fall of Liberty (PAL)

 

 

 

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Apparently there is a few methods to bypass this restriction. You will need to have a copy of Resistance or F1.

 

For Resistance method:

 

1. Play a campaign

2. Press start in game (for the pause menu)

3. At the pause menu, eject Resistance disc

4. Insert the affected Blu-Ray disc

5. Select "Save and quit" from the menu

6. The game will boot up

 

*This method works only on original version of RFOM. Please delete any game data/patch (downloaded) if you insist to try this method

 

F1: Championship Edition

 

1. Go to multiplayer menu

2. Select exit to main menu

3. At the confirmation popup, swap the disc

4. Confirm the popup to exit to main menu

5. The game will boot

 

However this might have some problem with game saves.

 

 

To help testing even though you have an HDTV, you can disable (untick) all HD resolutions and only leave NTSC-SD (480i/p) at the console display setting. If the games are affected, error 80028F10 will be shown and will not boot.

 

source - 1) http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstatio...read.id=1347414

2)http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622804

 

i have a 80 gb NTSC/US PS3 and got 80028F10 when i downloaded mx vs atv from uk psn store and my un-techie mind thought it was because some games can be played only on HDTVs

this was one of the reasons why i didnt buy GT5 Prologue from India straight away so if anyone has Indian/UK/AUS GT5 Prologue working on SDTV with

US/Japan console please tell moi......

 

PS3 games are region free but the video standard is much different than the Region Coding for DVD's, Blu-ray discs and games.

 

So can any one tell me if GTA 4 or MGS4 or any other game bought in India will have this problem or not?

[ayush12ice]

no they will not