The Supernatural Thread

[Rohan Seth]

To be honest I do not think he is the one who has a problem.

 

 

On topic, I have these strange premonitions in my dreams. When I see a scene from my real life, with real people talking and doing stuff. I do not mostly remember about it, in fact it hardly happens now. But once in a while something happens, like someone says a thing and I react in a way or something happens which I am damn sure that has already happened or at least I have already seen somewhere. Leaves me in a strange state each time I feel this.

 

Have you ever felt the same?

 

 

Happens to me a lot of times, has even a dedicated term "Deja Vu"

 

Holy sh*t! And I thought I was the only one. This happens a lot to me and the only thing that comes into my mind is "Deja Vu". Sometimes I see stuff in my dreams that has already happened in real life but sometimes I see a dream about something and that dream or part of that dream comes real. It kinda scares me because if I have a scary dream and that comes true? I'll sh*t bricks.

[godspeed4476]

I think I am gonna go bhangarh next month now, anyways I had to cancel my Nepal trip, so this would substitute it. Seriously

Dne some research, and tht place looks errignly beautiful. Avkash any idea how to get there cheaply from jaipur?

[scuderiaT1fos1]

Night ruined

[Shantz]

ok, another thing from my past (read someone's face reading post so got reminded of this). There was a time (I was around 8 years old I think) when I had this thing of looking at people's hands. Like a palm reader. Now, of course I didn't know jack sh*t about palmistry. But my parents say that I used to say stuff that would happen and it really happened in exact same ways as I said(and is still happening according to the predictions I made from near future (in terms of days) to far (in terms of 10s of years) for those people). The stuff ranged all over the place from passing in exams, to getting/losing money (amount as well), travel (with exact destinations), to death.

But they say that they got too enthused by this and started telling this to all their friends (like all parents like to brag) and one fine day I just stopped and refused to read any more palms. :|

I don't know what to make of it. All I remember about that time is that I used to look at the hands and just said whatever came to my mind and didn't actually make any connections to the lines or anything.

[Nemo]

i know its not supernatural per se buy anyone willing to discuss about aliens ie extra terristorial beings ? frankly the concept of aliens always intrested me more than ghosts and spirits.

 

i know the idea of aliens by itself is quite alien (pun unintended) to indian myths and urban legends, but still....

[Shantz]

i know its not supernatural per se buy anyone willing to discuss about aliens ie extra terristorial beings ? frankly the concept of aliens always intrested me more than ghosts and spirits.

 

i know the idea of aliens by itself is quite alien (pun unintended) to indian myths and urban legends, but still....

I've always wondered if lot of the stuff that we attribute to ghosts etc is actually due to aliens...

BTW, aliens aren't alien to Indian myths All the Gods are actually aliens aren't they (coming from other planets, galaxies, etc )

[abhi90]

Any explanation for atheists like moi ?

All atheists believe in a higher force, or a force not understandable by us mere mortals?

 

Have no idea, just asking

 

@shantz: sounds too creepy to be true It's nice that you don't do it anymore, sounds a bit like the movie "Wisher" to me

 

@nemo: The concept of aliens intrigues me too, but it's one that does not scare me unlike ghosts and spirits, have anything to add regarding aliens?

[The Wolfy among us]

Atheists don't believe in higher forces. If they did, might as well call it God. They believe in only science.

 

The neither here nor there people are called agnostic.

[avkash]

I think I am gonna go bhangarh next month now, anyways I had to cancel my Nepal trip, so this would substitute it. Seriously

Dne some research, and tht place looks errignly beautiful. Avkash any idea how to get there cheaply from jaipur?

 

Donno man. My brother and friends went in car.

 

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[abhi90]

Atheists don't believe in higher forces. If they did, might as well call it God. They believe in only science.

 

The neither here nor there people are called agnostic.

Ah! thanks for clearing that up, I actually have a friend who says that she is an Atheist and she believes in a force not understood by humans, a higher force

 

Hence I thought that some Atheists believe that :|

[Shantz]

The talk of Aliens and science reminded me of this doubt that I've always had. Scientists keep saying that life is not possible on so and so planet because we found that there is no oxygen there or there are no other x and y components present due to which life became possible on earth. Why do we think that life is possible only in a certain way? Why do we think that a living being always needs oxygen? There could be a non-carbon based life form as well? There could be a life form which doesn't need oxygen but uses nitrogen, e.g.?

[rockstarnet]

The talk of Aliens and science reminded me of this doubt that I've always had. Scientists keep saying that life is not possible on so and so planet because we found that there is no oxygen there or there are no other x and y components present due to which life became possible on earth. Why do we think that life is possible only in a certain way? Why do we think that a living being always needs oxygen? There could be a non-carbon based life form as well? There could be a life form which doesn't need oxygen but uses nitrogen, e.g.?

True.

[Chaztin]

Anyone here know about Bhangarh Fort?

 

That place is a pure myth as proven by a group of paranormal experts and the Aaj Tak team who actually spent a night in that place.

 

Nice thread. I'm a sucker for scary stories and supernatural stuff. Haven't experienced anything first hand though.

 

The closest I came to it was a terrifying experience of sleep paralysis. If I hadn't known about the phenomenon I would have considered it to be a supernatural experience.

 

It happened when I was staying with my grandparents (about 10 years ago). It was a lazy Sunday afternoon and I decided to take a nap. At some point I woke up but everything around me was fuzzy. It was the same room and I could see everything (furniture, the ceiling fan spinning etc) but the atmosphere was thick and there was a weird droning sound in my ears. The worst part was that I felt a very, very malevolent presence around me. It was just out of sight but I could hear it breathing and making sounds. It was then I realized was that I couldn't move at all. I tried to speak but I couldn't do that either. This went for (what felt like) a very long time. I surely didn't feel like a dream at all. Everything was so real. Eventually I slipped back to sleep but when I woke up I was f**king terrified. Let's just say I couldn't sleep that night.

 

The next day I googled it and found out about sleep paralysis. I breathed a sigh of relief knowing that it was a very common thing and almost everybody experiences it at least once (some more than others). Still I was glad that it wasn't a haunting or anything supernatural. I still get it from time to time but now I know what it is so I can wake up or slip back into sleep.

 

If you could actually see things around you while being in that state its more like a stage between Astral Projection and Sleep Paralysis. Sleep paralysis can be scary when it happens in the middle of the night in the dark especially when no ones around.

 

 

 

Its bullshit.Most of the missing planes and ships have been found and have an explanation.Used to fascinate me few years back.I did some research on the internet and found out its just a myth.

 

 

 

Just read this

 

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/I_f**king_Hate_the_Bermuda_Triangle

 

About Bermuda Triangle. I saw a documentary filmed by Discovery, which actually showed how the electromagnetic field in that area (some specific parts in that region) is actually higher than it usually is supposed to be. This interferes with the electronic system at times. Thats the best Discovery could show/prove.

[Chaztin]

oh yeah, the no sleep challenge ! back in mid 00s it was a rage in gamefaqs boards. Epic stories.

 

@ tyler. same here, i am a skeptic by core and do not believe in any supernatural thing. I do believe in unexplained stuff, for me it is just a part of science which we have not yet come to terms with, it is unknown because it is unexplored. Everything has a rational scientific explanation, some just take longer than usual to be discovered. What we now perceive as magic and miracle might very well be commonplace 100-150 years from now due to tech advancement. I love sic-fi's take on this notion, like Too human for example, it showed us Gods as technologically highly advanced humans.

 

a person from mid 17th century will see all that we can do in our homes as conclude we are wizards.

 

Being a skeptic and being a stubborn non believer are two different things.

[abhi90]

The talk of Aliens and science reminded me of this doubt that I've always had. Scientists keep saying that life is not possible on so and so planet because we found that there is no oxygen there or there are no other x and y components present due to which life became possible on earth. Why do we think that life is possible only in a certain way? Why do we think that a living being always needs oxygen? There could be a non-carbon based life form as well? There could be a life form which doesn't need oxygen but uses nitrogen, e.g.?

This is what I thought, everywhere aliens are being portrayed as human like, possessing human characteristics, like they walk on two feet, have a skull, have eyes, mouth there, etc.

Why can't they just be the opposite, hell why can't there be Jurassic Park going on in another planet

[avkash]

The talk of Aliens and science reminded me of this doubt that I've always had. Scientists keep saying that life is not possible on so and so planet because we found that there is no oxygen there or there are no other x and y components present due to which life became possible on earth. Why do we think that life is possible only in a certain way? Why do we think that a living being always needs oxygen? There could be a non-carbon based life form as well? There could be a life form which doesn't need oxygen but uses nitrogen, e.g.?

 

Bang on. Have been thinking the same all along.

 

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[Tyler]

^^ Yup. TRANSFORMERS!

 

Anyway on a serious note, this alien topic fascinates me to no end. The universe is so vast that there's absolutely no way we are the only ones here. There is most definitely life out there. I really wish we see some hard evidence in our lifetimes

 

 

If you could actually see things around you while being in that state its more like a stage between Astral Projection and Sleep Paralysis. Sleep paralysis can be scary when it happens in the middle of the night in the dark especially when no ones around.

 

Hmm I didn't want to go there (because it sounds really crazy) but after that particular incident I have actually experienced astral projection a few times. I could force my conciousness out of my body and float around the room. However I still firmly believe that astral projection is simply an advanced level of dreaming and not actually an out of body experience. It's probably our brain pulling off some weird sh*t on us. Still, it's a pretty fascinating phenomenon.

[Nemo]

The talk of Aliens and science reminded me of this doubt that I've always had. Scientists keep saying that life is not possible on so and so planet because we found that there is no oxygen there or there are no other x and y components present due to which life became possible on earth. Why do we think that life is possible only in a certain way? Why do we think that a living being always needs oxygen? There could be a non-carbon based life form as well? There could be a life form which doesn't need oxygen but uses nitrogen, e.g.?

 

I have similar thought, but one step further. Not only is it not mandatory for aliens to have a life form based on our earth based elements, carbon may just not exist there. The dominant life form could very well be a cloud of gas. We might even not recognise them even if it were right in front of us. We are doing it wrong by assuming a humanoid figure.

 

 

Another thing that I can think of is that there are aliens but they are just so advanced and superior in terms of tech and society that they would not have any reason to visit or contact us. Think about it, if aliens are capable of visiting earth then they are capable of travelling atlest across solar systems (if not galaxies) while we haven't been able to send men to all planets we know of. What could we possibly offer to them for them to take interest in earth ??

To quote dr. Manhattan "this world's smartest man is no more a threat to me than its smartest termite".

 

 

And one last argument for now is that aliens might not exist at all. At lest not in a form comparable to intelligent industrious forms like us humans. Have read an argument wherein dr. white coats suggest that occurance of human life on earth is a result of culmination of geological and astronomical events so random yet so microscopically precise that chances of them panning elsewhere are highly unlikely:

 

-Coordinates of earth in the solar system.

-properties of our central star, the sun.

-size of our orbit around sun, is what prevents us from burning or freezing to death. Size of our orbit, not a given distance from sun.

-size, number and distance of our moon that keeps earth on a stable axis and prevent rapid catastrophic climate changes.

-the sequence of geological ages that gave the proper conditions for an intelligent life form.

-Jupiter. Helping us survive like a solid enforcer, blocking derbies.

 

All in all the conditions required for not only existence but also sustainence of a comparable life form look rather one in a bajillion.

[Shantz]

Being a skeptic is good. I'm a skeptic myself but I'm not an atheist, and I still believe there is supernatural stuff which cannot be explained by science. The skeptic me just tries to separate wheat from the chaff.

 

Science has it's own fallacies. It tries to explain everything in terms of "theories". Something which "could have happened". But the theories don't always turn into a fact and so they remain theories, just like someone's non-scientific theory.

 

Like Nemo comments that a 17th century person would term us as wizards seeing what we can do today with science, true. But this is also true that even lot of the scientific theories of 17th centuries might have been debunked today. So, what that guy thought properly explained by that time's science might be completely wrong today.

 

For me, supernatural doesn't mean ghosts. It means "unexplained". Something we cannot explain by the means that we have currently. And that is why I'm fascinated by them. If we stopped being fascinated by these, I don't think we will actually even make any scientific advancements. Lot of folks would be convert their theories to facts only because they were so fascinated by the unexplained that they wanted to get to the real reason.

[Shantz]

All in all the conditions required for not only existence but also sustainence of a comparable life form look rather one in a bajillion.

Do not agree. The ratio/odds/chances of a thing/phenomenon can only be determined when you know the space fully. When we don't even know how big universe is, and when we haven't been able to go out of the solar system yet, then how can we say that these conditions are not occurring at millions of spaces, just outside the reach of hubble telescope?

Also, how do we know that what we are seeing through these hubbles are actually a true picture of the universe when we can't even determine whether what our eyes saw 5 meters from us right here on earth was correct or not.