ayush12ice Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i hav a LG TV this thing is also there in older HDTVs which do not support 720p the thing is with most games if u hav a TV that does not support 720p but supports 1080i, ps3 won't play it in 1080i instead it will try to play it in 480p or 576p(SD) which is when u hav these region probs. this is not due to ps3 but the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazekage Gaara Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dude...AFAIK, there is NOTHING wrong with the game. Its your TV. Hell, my 15-year-old 21" Onida Audioport can handle both NTSC and PAL input signals. THIS SAME THING HAPPENS IN A PS2 ALSO I have a PAL PS2 and when I play an NTSC game on it, the OUTPUT SIGNAL IS NTSC, and I know that because my TV tells me that and displays the proper output signal. When I tell my TV to force switch to PAL, the screen goes BLACK. Its really SHITTY on part of LG and other TV makers to remove that kind of feature from an television. Those dickheads just don't expect us to buy out of region stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayush12ice Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 no i was saying that the game shud hav upscaling to 1080i instead of downscaling to 480 or 576( the problem in old HDTV which do not hv 720p) but yes the TVs r to blame for not supporting both NTSC n PAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltonfan Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 So where in Mumbai can iget a PAL copy for cheap(<3000rs)???? OR Should i wait for the official launch??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 too bad for you....I'm getting an Xbox! And most TVs post 1995 can handle NTSC and PAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maint Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 currently playing GTA 4 ( pal) on a NTSC ps3 on a SDTV with component input , without any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsahil Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 ^^^man r u sure???? that's incredible news but why the f**k it causes problems for others?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahi Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 are you saying that if i use the component cable in my tv, coz its got one, i could probably play? and where do i get the ps3 component cable, is it available readily in sonyworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsahil Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 ^^^if this info is true than really its gonna be wonderful news for all with sdtv's. pls try using a component cable Wahi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maint Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 are you saying that if i use the component cable in my tv, coz its got one, i could probably play? and where do i get the ps3 component cable, is it available readily in sonyworld 1stly not all sd tv's have component input , 2ndly my sony sd tv has both pal and ntsc systems , so i wonder whether that helps ? and to answer your q , i got mine from playasia last month . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltonfan Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 How do I know whether my GTA copy is from Australia or some other region????? BTW its PAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsahil Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 1stly not all sd tv's have component input ,2ndly my sony sd tv has both pal and ntsc systems , so i wonder whether that helps ? and to answer your q , i got mine from playasia last month . dammit my Samsung sdtv doesnt have component input. however it has all the color systems PAL, NTSC and SECAM. but there is a problem, it doesnt play PAL DVD's on my NTSC U/C PS2 console and gives the error of "TV system does not match". does anyone know abt this? and i guess the same will happen with PS3 on my SDTV wid a game disc which has a different region coding. damn :cry5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have a Pal PS3 connected to a new SD TV. If i buy a NTSC game say GTA 4 (NTSC) will i be able to play it on my SD tv ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dienekes Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Guyz.. did ne1 reach 2 ne conclusion on dis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahi Posted May 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 well i got my component cable, sure the quality is bettesr with other games on the SDTV, text is sharper and all, but GTA still dosent work. i have a philips TV, just 2 years old, 25", and its got both NTSC and PAl, but the damn multi format works only in the basic TV mode only, not in AV of Component mode. so, you either need to get a NTSC GTA or HDTV. Damn!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 well i got my component cable, sure the quality is bettesr with other games on the SDTV, text is sharper and all, but GTA still dosent work. i have a philips TV, just 2 years old, 25", and its got both NTSC and PAl, but the damn multi format works only in the basic TV mode only, not in AV of Component mode. so, you either need to get a NTSC GTA or HDTV. Damn!!! seems you need to wait for GTA dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsahil Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 so heres the story, here i was very happy that i bought a ps3 and also managed to get my hands on GTA on the day it was released. except it wouldnt play. after a long search heres what i found. my player is US NTSC, but my game is PAL and my TV is SDTV. and as one of the websites i found states that this is not a problem with only GTA 4, but many others. the text off the other site will explain this much better : 2 of the games/demos downloaded from PSN EU is not working on NTSC console hooked to SDTV. The games are Tekken and GTHD. However these titles work great on HDTV setup. I assumed that other demos/titles on PSN EU store are multicoded with PAL and NTSC and HD. In SDTV mode, the console will force-output its native console signal (NTSC), but in HDTV mode, the NTSC/PAL restriction is not an issue anymore. As we know that some PSN contents are affected with this limitation, I wonder if this problem also affect disc-based titles? I know that Sony already stated PS3 games are region-free, but are they region-free for HDTV only or including SDTV as well? UPDATE: *Certain disc-based PS3 games are affected as well* ------------------------------ These are what I believe happened for PS3 (BD games & PSN contents, not movie DVDs & PS1 & PS2 games): The contents are either coded in: 1) NTSC-SD and HD 2) PAL-SD and HD 3) NTSC-SD and PAL-SD and HD *some contents are NTSC-less/PAL-less but also in SD, and this is not a concern Case a: NTSC console + HDTV + Multicoded contents (NTSC+PAL+HD coded) The console will try to output in HD mode to HDTV = titles worked Case b: NTSC console + SDTV + Multicoded contents (same as above) The console will output NTSC-SD content only = titles worked Case c: NTSC console + SDTV + PAL-coded contents (PAL-SD and HD) The console will refuse to play the PAL-SD content ["This game is not supported. (80028F10)"] or ["You cannot play this game at the current video output setting. (80028F10)"] on new firmware. #All of the above are purely based on my observation/conjecture, and I might be wrong. Please correct if you feel there is anything wrong -------------------------------- So anyone here can confirm which EU/PAL PS3 disc-based games worked with NTSC consoles in SDTV setup? This might save someone that import consoles and play locally-released titles from buying a non-working disc title. Gamestores here do not accept opened games for return. I hope this post can collate and compile list of working games on SDTV. ===================================== PSN EU/UK/PAL CONTENTS: ------------------------------------------ List of unaffected titles: ------------------------------------------ Blast Factor (demo & full) Calling All Cars Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (demo) Heavenly Sword (demo) Mortal Kombat 2 Lemmings (demo & full) Super Rub-a-Dub (demo & full) Super StarDust HD (demo & full) Warhawk ------------------------------------------ List of affected titles: ------------------------------------------ Tekken: Dark Resurrection GTHD 2.0 The Simpsons (demo) ===================================== BLU-RAY BASED GAMES: ------------------------------------------ List of unaffected titles: ------------------------------------------ Assassin's Creed (PAL) Burnout Paradise (PAL) Call of Duty 4 (PAL) Clive Barker's Jericho (PAL) Club, The (PAL) Darkness (The), (PAL) Dark Sector (PAL) Def Jam: ICON (PAL) Devil May Cry 4 (PAL) Fifa 08 (PAL) Fight Night Round 3 (PAL) Formula 1: Championship Edition (PAL) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PAL) Harry Potter 5 (PAL) Kane and Lynch (PAL) Lego Star Wars: Complete Saga(PAL) Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (PAL) MotorStorm (PAL) NBA Live 08 (PAL) Need For Speed Carbon (PAL) Need For Speed ProStreet (PAL) Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PAL) Orange Box, The (PAL) Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PAL) Rainbow Six: Vegas (PAL) Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (PAL) Resistance: Fall of Man (PAL) Sega Rally Revo (PAL) SingStar (PAL) Skate (PAL) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 (PAL) Transformers: The Game (PAL) Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (PAL) Virtua Fighter 5 (PAL) Virtua Tennis 3 (PAL) ----------------------------------------- List of affected titles: ----------------------------------------- Army of Two (PAL) Beowulf (PAL) Bladestorm (PAL) Call of Duty 3 (PAL) Dynasty Warriors: Gundam (PAL) F.E.A.R (PAL) Folklore (PAL) Grand Theft Auto IV (PAL) Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (PAL) Heavenly Sword (PAL) Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (PAL) NBA2K7 (PAL) NHL 08 (PAL) Oblivion (PAL) WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 (PAL) Spider-Man (PAL) Tiger Woods 07 (PAL) Turning Point: Fall of Liberty (PAL) nice.. looks like MGS4 is not affected by this problem this list should be updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeamus Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I have a Pal PS3 connected to a new SD TV. If i buy a NTSC game say GTA 4 (NTSC) will i be able to play it on my SD tv ? "I have finished my Devil May Cry 4 (NTSC) on my PS3 which is a PAL" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsahil Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 check the list above. DMC4 is an unaffected title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahi Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 updated the list here, my next question is, has anyone checked whether Battlefield bad company is affected by this problem, or not. anyone who has a pal battlefield can check on some friends ntsc ps3 and sdtv etc. please let me know, am interested in buying, but not sure about the compatibility. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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