How To Create Apps/Games!

[varundbest]

Thanks guys! Check this out -

http://www.indianvideogamer.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41890&hl=

 

 

 

Well guys i dont want any easy-to-use, no-coding-required tools! I will be starting my B.Tech CSE this year and wish to create various apps/games for different platforms (Mainly smartphones). So i wish to know what to do?

I know that there are specific toolkits for programmers for every platform and stuff. I wish to learn about - Android, iOS, bb os 10

, PC,etc. Kindly try to enlighten me a bit, i searched a lot and got many links and stuff, i dont want all that. I want you to give me the main points and stuff. If possible (And i get a team), i'd love to create games for PS4 and PC! And how does porting to other platform works?

Please make it precise and informative!

 

EDIT: From now on i am going to update this post with all the new info regarding my progress!

I am currently going for Android and wont move on until i get at least one app on google play!

If you wish to do the same, Check out this video on how to install the tools required! -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtsyrKdPZVw

[Rosh]

You think it's so easy

[varundbest]

*Certainly* Not!!!! Thats why my main aim is APPS!!!!

 

EDIT: If you got me wrong then i'd like to clarify that i dont want any create-an-app with coding knowledge tool but i want to do coding. I want to do it the professional way! And i dont want any links or anything but the broad layout of it! Like currently for android, i am holding onto this - http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html

[Sackboy]

You think it's so easy

+1 , man do you even know what SDKs are ? Do your research before asking here ...

[@@di]

if you're doin cse i'm sure you'll learn java in your fe i suggest u gt a good hold of java n thn join any good coachin classes fr android prog(afaik it's the easiest of the lot) and thn move on frm there.

[avkash]

You think it's so easy

 

+2

 

learn programming in C first, that helps - A LOT

come back once you understand memory management and pointers in C

 

Edit: And then learn at least the basics of JAVA, that helps a lot too, on top of C

[varundbest]

^^ Thanks guys, i know Turbo C++, structures, arrays, classes, pointers, stack,etc.

[varundbest]

+1 , man do you even know what SDKs are ? Do your research before asking here ...

Yea, SDKs are devkits bro!

 

 

+2

 

learn programming in C first, that helps - A LOT

come back once you understand memory management and pointers in C

 

Edit: And then learn at least the basics of JAVA, that helps a lot too, on top of C

HaHa, i know C++ and pointers lol! And JAVA is ëxtremely" easy as compared to c and c++!!

[Sackboy]

Ad do you know how much the iOS devkits cost ?

 

And do you realise how difficult to obtain a console devkit ?

[avkash]

anybody who says that he knows pointers/threads is fooling himself, add to it that JAVA is simple and you have a perfect "that I cannot see does not exist" guy

 

Edit: also , iOS does not have devkits, only an SDK, seriously how hard is to find an iPhone/iPad/iPod to test your apps

[varundbest]

Ad do you know how much the iOS devkits cost ?

 

And do you realise how difficult to obtain a console devkit ?

i dont know, thats y i m askin...

 

anybody who says that he knows pointers/threads is fooling himself, add to it that JAVA is simple and you have a perfect "that I cannot see does not exist" guy

 

Edit: also , iOS does not have devkits, only an SDK, seriously how hard is to find an iPhone/iPad/iPod to test your apps

so acc. to u, nobody knows pointers... lol! and SDK and devkits r one and d same thing dude!!!

stop making fun of me and try to contribute if you can...

[avkash]

the devkit and SDK comment was for Anant, stop getting touchy feely

also if you think that SDK and devkits are same then I will stop replying, seriously, I mean seriously

 

Edit: Also bori ke ladke, iOS SDK costs only $100, that is pretty cheap, i think even Mamu has one coz he is running the new iOS 7 beta

[varundbest]

the devkit and SDK comment was for Anant, stop getting touchy feely

also if you think that SDK and devkits are same then I will stop replying, seriously, I mean seriously

 

Edit: Also bori ke ladke, iOS SDK costs only $100, that is pretty cheap, i think even Mamu has one coz he is running the new iOS 7 beta

Thanks and this -

 

A software development kit (SDK or "devkit") is typically a set of software development tools that allows for the creation of applications for a certain software

 

Copied from wikipedia bro....

[avkash]

^^ you're using the loose meanings

technically a devkit is hardware + software, an SDK is Software only

 

iOS has only an SDK as no dedicated hardware is needed to run it, you can run the apps even on a simulator

 

but, I will end here, if you plan on becoming a developer good luck to you, since you already know C, C++ and JAVA, there is a very bright future for you

[varundbest]

^^ Bro, i didnt mean to be rude and i also used to think that devkit is hardware and SDK is software until i read on wiki... However for consoles, devkit is hardware i think... And i only know Turbo C++ as of now... That you i guess is outdated by two decades!! With no option of multi-threading,etc... And my teacher said JAVA is easier as compared to c and c++...And this is my syllabus -

http://amity.edu/Admission/course_structure/A23052.html

[avkash]

dude, cross your bridges when they come, don't jump the gun, you can be a developer, heck anybody can be a developer if I can be one, just listen more than talk

concentrate on basics right now

 

also this is what you wrote, if your teacher did not use your account that is:

 

 

HaHa, i know C++ and pointers lol! And JAVA is ëxtremely" easy as compared to c and c++!!

[kemosabe]

stop wasting your time..I will suggest you start with Android, as its free. Check out the android dev kit -http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

 

For iOS, you need to license the dev kit (only software), not suggested at this point of time.

As for PS4 you need license and purchase the dev kit(software and hardware). First start making some games for PC, get some free game engine and start tinkering.

 

You need to spend a lot of time in searching, join some developer forum.

[varundbest]

thnx guys! and i said haha, i know pointers coz u guys were making fun of me....

i am asking this stuff coz i dont know... kindly be polite... i am asking not braging about developing apps so u can insult me by saying - 'do u even know d price of sdk'... no, idk thats y i m askin.. if u know, u can simply tell me...

[kaiserbreath]

I really like the OP's energy and enthusiasm. There are very few who actually make use of all the programming that they learn in college and building something in my opinion is the best way to learn. From what I have seen most of the students copy paste assignments and even final year projects, then go with their guns blazing for theory examinations with rather satisfactory scores to get picked up by TCS/Infosys. Of course I may be generalizing here a bit but this is what I have seen in my years of college.

 

Coming to the crux of the topic. I would suggest you keep doing basic assignments at college along with some read ups like this to get you familiar with the general structure of a game.

 

The thing is that there are different kinds of programmers in the game industry and one has to really focus eventually to get a job as a game programmer (if that is what you are aiming at).

From what I know and if I remember all from the Ubisoft India presentation, there are

 

Engine Programmer

Graphics Programmer

Gameplay Programmer (since its scripting sometimes game designers do it as well)

UI Programmer

Ai Programmer

Network Programmer

Someone to do Integration between systems and/or Generalist Programmer

 

So for now I would say just get your basics right and keep making small games for practice using whatever languages you feel comfortable with. Get all your maths concepts clear, its very useful. If you want to develop for iOS natively you will need to learn objective C and get familiar with cocos. You will also need a developer account ($99) and a Mac($1000) to access XCode I believe. Android is Java based but you can also deploy to both these platforms using AS3 (which I use but only for throwaway prototype code) There are many SDK's/API's available that are in C++ with LUA extensions and can handle multiple devices like Marmalade/MOAI and even HTML5 engines like Construct2.

 

Do take part in game jams to get used to working in a team environment where creative decisions have to be taken (takes a long time trust me). There is a small community of independent developers from india on facebook called Local Indie Game Devs, you can always post something there if you are stuck (technically or creatively). I think one of the game developers in the group is a senior from Amity (but I might be mistaken). Best of luck!

[varundbest]

Thanks man! What i was thinking is to create apps for the beginning and stuff. As i am well aware that designing an entire game is quite challenging for a *single* guy! As you need to design graphics, textures, then there is the layout of every level, AI for NPC's, UI,etc. So i would love to have a team for that and we can design module by module.

I was wondering that is it possible to use someone else's Game Engine professionally? I mean are there any freeware/open-source engines available? And is it possible to use available textures, modify them and use them (Totally different from what you downloaded)? However for the beginning i wish to create a swiss knife type of app, which can do a lot of stuff (Cant publicize the idea)...

And as of Xcode, OS X Lion can be installed on a normal pc too!

 

EDIT: Checked out Blender, Citrus and other engines... Seems sexy!

Kindly tell me all the info needed because i just passed 12th and entering B.Tech so you can see how much idea about this i'll have (Not much), this is an entire new world for me! Any help is appreciated, some things which might seems obvious for you might be new to me! When i was in 9th, i created my own website (Own TLD, Server,etc.) and did the SEO myself and earned around $3000 from it (Advertisements, links,etc.), it was a tech review blog and forum, by using wordpress and PHPBB. But paypal limitations prevented me from paying for hosting (HostGator) and renewal of domain, (No credit card) and i got busy with Xth class! And scammed for $700 buy a guy (Long story short, i sent him $700 to send me via western union as there were RBI and paypal dispute going on). It was PageRank 4 by Google and was in top 20k websites in Alexa.