Game over for Games for Windows Live - Shutting down finally.

[Right]

You dont need it?

Bhai saab, Steam guys should have started working on this by now.

Preloads arent available for every game and they mean squat if you want to play the game as soon as possible.

 

@alpha

i know you can do it manual. The way it works on consoles is that it finds whether the online component is being used or not.

On PC, I would expect steam to bifurcate bandwidth and dedicate a part of it for download and a part for online play.

[ALPHA17]

You dont need it?

 

Well, I don't need it because retail is still my preferred source of games. And that itself gets delayed. I think I will have a lot of backers in India at-least. Abroad maybe not so.

Bhai saab, Steam guys should have started working on this by now.

 

They have and as I said you can simply manually enforce it if you are sure your bandwidth would suffice or you are not playing any multi-player.

Preloads arent available for every game and they mean squat if you want to play the game as soon as possible.

 

As far as I have seen and a couple of AAA purchases on STEAM, there is a pre-load option that works just fine.

 

No issues with games like Papers Please, Thomas was Alone not having pre-load option because they are just ~500MB in size.

[Heaven Angel]

Preloads arent available for every game and they mean squat if you want to play the game as soon as possible.

 

Pre-load is available for every AA/AAA games.

 

Indie games do not require pre-load as they take just couple minutes to download.

By the time I start and move my a*s to 10 feet, it will be already downloaded. I can wait for 5 minute to play indie games.

 

 

Oh wait, may be this is a problem for Indian region with poor bandwidth and internet. 56-1024k?

Sorry, in that case you (guys) might need that derpy feature. Pay as you download. (or is it play as you download?)

 

/OT

[Right]

Wait. Wait. wait

Play as you download means this

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-11-ps4-digital-library-lets-you-play-your-games-anywhere

 

"With Play As You Download you get much quicker access to at least the first section of the game so you can start playing quicker. So this makes a digital library a practical option in the real world."

 

One example of this is with Killzone: Shadow Fall, which is playable after downloading just the first level and the game's menu. You'll be able to choose whether you want to download its multiplayer mode first or the single-player, and get playing as it's downloading in the background.

 

This extends to installing retail games via BD. You sure you dont need this?

[Right]

Lawl. Serious downloaders can get 50mbps conn for 2500 in my city.

[ALPHA17]

This extends to installing retail games via BD. You sure you dont need this?

 

No, we can go full retail in that case. On the opposite end, complete download.

 

If you ever get the installation discs (legit / non-legit), install it in the STEAM folder, let it verify files, download patches (you can disable this as well) and you are good to go.

Lawl. Serious downloaders can get 50mbps conn for 2500 in my city.

 

We all cannot be in Hyderabad-Secunderabad.

BEAM ke maje

The state of FTTH in NCR is pathetic. I pay 1600 for a 10 mbps connection with 50 gb fup. I Hope when beam comes here the rates fall.

 

Touché.

[devil_angel]

I hope Steam suffers the same fat one day :/

[Heaven Angel]

Wait. Wait. wait

Play as you download means this

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-11-ps4-digital-library-lets-you-play-your-games-anywhere

 

This extends to installing retail games via BD. You sure you dont need this?

 

That feature is not really required. You can use Steam backup feature which allows you to backup entire data to your portable HDD. Then go to your friends house, login to your Steam account, use the backup data, play full 100% game. Not just quarter or half.

 

Lawl. Serious downloaders can get 50mbps conn for 2500 in my city.

 

That's 0.25-0.50% of India?

 

 

Play as you download, family sharing, gifting someone a digital game etc. should come to steam too. All this is sure to become a standard on the next gen consoles.

 

Family sharing? You mean, I buy the game and my cousin should be able to play?

 

If yes, then he can do it. Login to my account from his system and play.

 

Gifting? You cannot trade used games on PC. That will never happen and should never happen.

 

What else?

[Heaven Angel]

I hope Steam suffers the same fat one day :/

 

You do realize that PC gaming is literally STEAM.

 

95% of games are steamworks title. From Indie to AAA titles.

[devil_angel]

 

That feature is not really required. You can use Steam backup feature which allows you to backup entire data to your portable HDD. Then go to your friends house, login to your Steam account, use the backup data, play full 100% game. Not just quarter or half.

 

 

That's 1-2% of India?

 

 

 

Family sharing? You mean, I buy the game and my cousin should be able to play?

 

If yes, then he can do it. Login to my account from his system and play.

 

Gifting? You cannot trade used games on PC. That will never happen and should never happen.

 

What else?

Not wise. Say if your cousin stays in a different location than your own, it's one of the ways to get your account banned by Steam

 

 

 

You do realize that PC gaming is literally STEAM.

 

95% of games are steamworks title. From Indie to AAA titles.

Yeah, it has a certain stake, but 95% ??

Where did you get that number from?

[Heaven Angel]

Steam doesn't ban you for multiple IP logins. All my Steam accounts are shared with friends.

 

Some buys indie games alone and I login to his account to play and vice-versa.

[devil_angel]

Steam doesn't ban you for multiple IP logins. All my Steam accounts are shared with friends.

 

Some buys indie games alone and I login to his account to play.

Like I said, not wise.....one day it might turn sour

[Heaven Angel]

You cannot because steam can't. No reason it shouldn't be there. MS planned to do all this and most of it is happening. Even on ps4.

Steam isn't perfect and is open to improvement like everything else.

 

Steam doesn't decides that. It's publisher who decides whether to re-sell games or not.

 

Steam at the moment is perfect and doesn't require any changes.

[devil_angel]

Sorry that I missed this.

 

That will never happen and should never happen.

Why shouldn't it never happen?

[ALPHA17]

Play as you download, family sharing, gifting someone a digital game etc. should come to steam too. All this is sure to become a standard on the next gen consoles.

 

You can gift games to other players / friends / family (should be on STEAM).

 

Play as you download is not needed on STEAM as Joe has already pointed out, you would have pre-loaded the game or the game is small enough that you can get things done in an hour tops which is sane. Or you would have gone retail and your problem is not in your hands.

You cannot because steam can't. No reason it shouldn't be there. MS planned to do all this and most of it is happening. Even on ps4.

 

Nobody said STEAM is perfect but it is much ahead of the pack composed of ORIGIN, UPlay! and now defunct GFWL.

 

Only digital distribution I will rate higher is GoG, simply because of no DRM.

 

We all remember what MicroSoft had in mind when it revealed the ONE, priceless features I must concur that your 'community' spurned.

Why shouldn't it never happen?

 

Price fixing, tracking issues. Also, the lack of online passes on PC was because of the lack of reseller options. You will open a can of worms no matter how good the original intentions are.

[Right]

Joe. I cant believe how easily you are ignoring the feature.

Go to store and start downloading the game, download 1st level and start playing it while rest downloads in background.

You dont need this feature?

[Heaven Angel]

Sorry that I missed this.

 

Why shouldn't it never happen?

 

Why sell when you can get everything for less than what you can sell for?

 

40%-50% off on AAA title during launch, it's paradise.

 

Steam is not just official steam store or client. It's huge, you need to explore every feature of it.

 

Like I said, not wise.....one day it might turn sour

 

Then there is no reason to live.

[ALPHA17]

You dont need this feature?

 

No. Why do that when you can have the whole game in your hand two maybe three days before release, downloaded and ready to go the moment the clock goes past 0000 Hours in your region.

[Heaven Angel]

Joe. I cant believe how easily you are ignoring the feature.

Go to store and start downloading the game, download 1st level and start playing it while rest downloads in background.

You dont need this feature?

 

Not ignoring. It is of no use in countries with 10-120mbps+ default connection where you can download entire game within few minutes.

[ALPHA17]

Gifting means that you give a game you already own to someone else on Steam. Like reselling. I believe steam doesn't have that.

 

And say what you want about MS's policies. They were all good. Except for the 24 hour check-in. There was even a "used game" feature which required the co-operation of retailers. Apart from that most of it will still happen.

 

No, STEAM does not have that, why do we need that when we can purchase ~4 -->5 games at whatever price we want. DRM free or on STEAM (yes this also up-to us). Also, sales. Summer, Winter, Midweek Madness, Weekend deals, Today's Random special, Quakecon, Halloween. Why gift a game after playing it yourself, give your friend / family a completely fresh start. Help community expand.

 

STEAM does not force you any of this, lack of stable internet, disable game updates and keep offline till you want and enjoy all your games. Want to install a game, log-in for a bit set-up the game and switch of the internet.

 

Never a console player so no opinion on used games but I prefer to have a small collection of first-hand retails (that I totally want), rest can come digital as and when the price is amiable to me.

Edit : @Alpha Many believe that steam is perfect. You can see it on this thread itself

 

I don't consider it perfect. It has issues, every system / organisation has. Else, this world will cease to be human.

 

But yes credit where credit is due and STEAM is the reason why every one is trying to set-up a digital distribution network. We need flops like UPlay! and GFWL to realise what is acceptable and what is not.