Bird Bird Bird Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 It still says that we can upgrade from Windows 8 consumer preview(which is free BTW). However what if I need to reinstall again later? I can't install that consumer preview after January or something, right? Isn't there a typical installation disk available? Surprisingly there's no "retail" copy for sale till now. Really strange. But then you can install this over Win 7/XP as well. I know it's a long loop but then you're getting it for a mere 60$ (there's a 10$ off coupon on AMZ valid from yesterday till tomorrow IIRC). From what I read previously, MS is getting aggressive with Win 8 pricing, so I think just wait out for the Indian launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) Surprisingly there's no "retail" copy for sale till now. Really strange. But then you can install this over Win 7/XP as well. I know it's a long loop but then you're getting it for a mere 60$ (there's a 10$ off coupon on AMZ valid from yesterday till tomorrow IIRC). From what I read previously, MS is getting aggressive with Win 8 pricing, so I think just wait out for the Indian launch. I don't have any Windows except a Windows 8 preview(even that is not installed on my system atm. Just downloaded it yesterday). If I can install the freely downloadable Windows 8 preview on a bare hard drive, then why can't I do the same with a paid disc? Edited October 13, 2012 by Ph3N0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I don't have any Windows except a Windows 8 preview(even that is not installed on my system atm. Just downloaded it yesterday). If I can install the freely downloadable Windows 8 preview on a bare hard drive, then why can't I do the same with a paid disc? Because that is how MS rolls. They've both "Full editions" and "Upgrade versions" for sale. Upgrade ones are significantly cheaper and can only be installed on a previous MS OS (basically MS is giving you a discount because you're running Windows, but with a catch). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Because that is how MS rolls. They've both "Full editions" and "Upgrade versions" for sale. Upgrade ones are significantly cheaper and can only be installed on a previous MS OS (basically MS is giving you a discount because you're running Windows, but with a catch). But it is compatible even with a Windows 8 release preview, which is freely available. Then how does that make any sense? And is the full edition available on Amazon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 But it is compatible even with a Windows 8 release preview, which is freely available. Then how does that make any sense? And is the full edition available on Amazon? Well, if you used Win 8 Preview, you obviously sent usage data and error bugs to MS to fine hone their OS. Plus they are conditioning you to get used to the OS with the preview. So if you end up buying the retail copy due to the preview, it's again a win for MS. But the catch is you can't install the preview after a set date (which methinks can be outdone if you change your BIOS date, but can it be activated that way ?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) Okay. Is the full version available on Amazon? Couldn't find it the last time. Edited October 13, 2012 by Ph3N0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 ^^ Don't think so. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Full version of Windows 8 will not be available on e-retail portals before the launch of the product(s) physical copies in the US. Also there will most prolly be no drop in the pricing of Windows 7 licenses, the two OS will coexist for at-least 1 -->2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Apparently, the full version is on Newegg for $99. Any chance of a discount during Black Friday? Indian pricing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) Apparently, the full version is on Newegg for $99. Any chance of a discount during Black Friday? Indian pricing? Newegg does not ship to India but as you are getting a GTX680 from abroad this should do fine; be wary that certain region(s) software is locked. I have my Windows 7 Home Premium copy that announces that it can only be activated in India OR the subcontinent countries and should not be used in the EU OR Australia as that is illegal. Does newegg have Black Friday sales, if yes are the OS disc(s) unlocked OR region- locked? About India pricing, the Home Premium class OS will be ~5500/- -->6500/- (per copy of disc(s) 1x 64-bit and another 32-bit). The Ultimate edition will be round about ~11000/- -->12000/-. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Edited October 13, 2012 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Installed the Consumer Preview version of Windows 8 yesterday. It's worse than I imagined. Edited October 14, 2012 by Ph3N0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Installed the COnsumer Preview version of Windows 8 yesterday. It's worse than I imagined. See, I told you it might not be the final product (Consumer Preview) but the base is pretty much set for touch based input. I had used very early versions of Windows 8 (around November 2011 -->January 2012) and apart from the redone start screen it did not impress me, at all. So I reinstalled my legit copy of Windows 7 Home Premium. Windows 8 is out to capture the tablet PC / Tablet / smartphone market where Windows is looking very poorly since the rise of iOS and Android. PC's (specifically gaming PC's) will continue on Windows 7 for at-least two years more. Heck I know guys perfectly fine with XP 64-bit as well. Get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium / Professional, kick-back and enjoy your RIG. Cheerio! Edited October 14, 2012 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Windows 7 seems to be even more expensive than Windows 8 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Windows 7 seems to be even more expensive than Windows 8 though. That is the way things are, sadly. Although since installing the legit version I have not faced any major issues and just 3 complete formats of the system in 21/2 years of operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) So, they have announced a System-buider version for $99(for now), and that is the only version which can be installed on a bare hard drive(without any previous Windows installation). And to top it, they've said: Unlike other boxed copies, System Builder does not come with support from Microsoft: Instead, the user is responsible for self-support, or if System Builder is used on a made-to-order PC, the shop or individual who assembled the machine is responsible. Source So, do they expect that all people already have Windows, and should upgrade that only? It's ridiculous, and it's things like this(along with the reluctance to drop price of the older OS even after release of the new one) that are corrupting me to contemplate going Edited October 14, 2012 by Ph3N0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Win7 is the real deal, best work by MS. No one should buy Win8 until the final product hits the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) So, they have announced a System-buider version for $99(for now), and that is the only version which can be installed on a bare hard drive(without any previous Windows installation). Actually if you compare the complete portfolio of MICROSOFT (software only) in India the pricing of a two-disk OS is pretty reasonable; look at pricing of Office suites (atrocious to compare). Win7 is the real deal, best work by MS. No one should buy Win8 until the final product hits the market. Amen to that, after using the Windows 8 Developer preview earlier this year I can confidently reinforce my stand that the next iteration of MICROSOFT OS is going to be the biggest f*** up after the release of Windows 98 (when it crashed on demo). Even the final product is not enticing enough to warrant me to change gears. Finally the last thing I contemplate of now is Pirating, if we can spend around INR ~6000/- (for 6-->8 titles) on PC gaming which we exhaust in a matter of hours I think a software copy that lasts ~3 years as the base for everything you plonk onto it worth ~6000/-. Edited October 14, 2012 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 BTW, what do they precsely mean when they say what I quoted in my last post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) BTW, what do they precsely mean when they say what I quoted in my last post? I mean that if as a gamer and student I try to balance out my game buying spree and can get ~6 -->8 titles a year for something between ~6000/- -->9000/- INR and live through it in ~40 hours each and pay the price for it, then why not for the OS. The base which will not be switched for ~3 -->5 years dependent on hardware and requirement why not sink in ~6000/- INR for an original copy of the OS and no Piracy! messages / banners OR frequent lock ups, jams etc etc. And best of all no unnecessary reformats. Edited October 14, 2012 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) I mean that if as a gamer and student I try to balance out my game buying spree and can get ~6 -->8 titles a year for something between ~6000/- -->9000/- INR and live through it in ~40 hours each and pay the price for it, then why not for the OS. I mean the base which will not be switched for ~3 -->5 years dependent on hardware and requirement why not sink in ~6000/- INR for an original copy of the OS and no Piracy! messages / banners OR frequent lock ups, jams etc etc. I understand that. But that doesn't mean that Microsoft's policies are ethical in the least. I mean you can buy a Windows 8 upgrade for $40(downloadable version) which can be used on top of a free Windows 8 CP installation(which is time-locked BTW), but you can't use that copy to install on a bare hard drive. People buying your product for the first time should be encouraged, not punished for not using your earlier products. I'm fed up of all their corporate terms. I've been happily using Linux for so long now. If only all games supported it! P.S.: I know those already using an earlier Windows should also benefit. I think I won't have much to complain if they didn't allow Windows 8 CP people to upgrade for $40. What happens if they want to re-install later, and the time-limit for preview has already expired by then? If the "support" of that upgrade version for people using the preview copy is so restricted, then why support them at all? Edited October 14, 2012 by Ph3N0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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