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having a problem with my PC and i was wondering if yall could figure out what the cause of it is

 

my PC randomly starts freezing.....sometimes it happens twice in an hour and sometimes it will run all day without freezing, but the freezing is quite frequent and it happens in one of two ways

 

1. there is a click sound from the cabinet like someone flipped a switch following which the screen freezes and mouse and keyboard become unresponsive...have to reboot from the cabinet

2. there is a similar click sound, but this time in my speakers/headphones following which the screen goes black (it goes off as if its not receiving a signal) and the cabinet looks and sounds like its reebooting....ROM drive lights start flashing like it does when you reboot....but the screen remains black and again i have to reboot from the cabinet

 

i recently bought a new graphics card - geforce 6200 AGP card....i had some problems with the driver that i got off the nvidia site so i'm currently on the default display driver that windows installed....could that be the issue?

Have your problems started only after installing the new gfx card? If so thats one potential problem.

 

The clicking sound could be coming from the HDD, signalling an impending failure.

 

But given the hanging, its more likely to be an overheating component, either the processor or its fan, the bridge fans / coolers, or the gfx card.

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a 450W shud suffice for u Push.....even if u will be getting 8800GTX.

thanks mates.

BTW in what condition are teh SMPS above 450W is required?

@ chaoster, nope mates, my budget is flexible, can go upto 5K. (but i am also saving for teh GFX card, so lower teh SMPS cost, the better :) )

@ Uncle Sam, when i brought me PC, someone was buying iBall Lappy @ 25/26 K(dun remember) BTW even u can buy ACER basic lappy's around 25K iGuess.

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^^ if u are gonna SLI/CF, gonna add 3 or above HDD's, multiple Optical driver etc, u shud think of getting ur PSU to 650+...

 

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(but i am also saving for teh GFX card, so lower teh SMPS cost, the better )
from that, it seems ur underestimating the importance of an SMPS in a configuration.Just be aware that an SMPS with cheap components may/can take down ANY other component(s) in the configuration.So, investing in a good powerful SMPS(750W +) now can prevent u from worrying abt its upgradation for the next 3 or 4 years.
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^^ if u are gonna SLI/CF, gonna add 3 or above HDD's, multiple Optical driver etc, u shud think of getting ur PSU to 650+...

 

PS: from that, it seems ur underestimating the importance of an SMPS in a configuration.Just be aware that an SMPS with cheap components may/can take down ANY other component(s) in the configuration.So, investing in a good powerful SMPS(750W +) now can prevent u from worrying abt its upgradation for the next 3 or 4 years.

thanks didn't know that.

here's wot me gonna upgrade in near future.

3(or 4) X 1TB SATA HDD + 250GB SATA(using)

2X DVD Writers.

one 8800GTX/any high end GFX card.

rest of teh componets as mentioned in me earlier post will remain teh same. me not planning for SLi, one strong single card would suffice me.(in case 8800 GTX)

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thanks didn't know that.

here's wot me gonna upgrade in near future.

3(or 4) X 1TB SATA HDD + 250GB SATA(using)

2X DVD Writers.

one 8800GTX/any high end GFX card.

rest of teh componets as mentioned in me earlier post will remain teh same. me not planning for SLi, one strong single card would suffice me.(in case 8800 GTX)

 

Get a CM 750 Real Power Pro shud be around 7k i think/

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Get a CM 750 Real Power Pro shud be around 7k i think/

thanks, will keep an EYE for it.

and thanks every1 for their help.

now onto me next inquiry, which UPS is reliable and which one should i go for. iHeard from people that APC is good, wot say? also if possible tell me standby time and approx. cost.

EDIT:

just seen teh pics of CM 750 Real Power Pro, iHas Zebronics LAVA cabinet, and the CM 750 Real Power Pro has an upwards cooling fan not in teh direction of where we connect teh power cords to teh SMPS!

iHas SMPS cooling fan location something like this

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having a problem with my PC and i was wondering if yall could figure out what the cause of it is

 

my PC randomly starts freezing.....sometimes it happens twice in an hour and sometimes it will run all day without freezing, but the freezing is quite frequent and it happens in one of two ways

 

1. there is a click sound from the cabinet like someone flipped a switch following which the screen freezes and mouse and keyboard become unresponsive...have to reboot from the cabinet

2. there is a similar click sound, but this time in my speakers/headphones following which the screen goes black (it goes off as if its not receiving a signal) and the cabinet looks and sounds like its reebooting....ROM drive lights start flashing like it does when you reboot....but the screen remains black and again i have to reboot from the cabinet

 

i recently bought a new graphics card - geforce 6200 AGP card....i had some problems with the driver that i got off the nvidia site so i'm currently on the default display driver that windows installed....could that be the issue?

 

someone told me to reinstall windows but i havent got around to it coz the amount of workload desnt give me the time, but will it be necessary?

 

here's my PC specs:

AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.60 GHz

1GB RAM

Asus K8VMX motherboard (onboard sound)

GeForce 6200

 

any help would be appreciated :)

peace

 

It could also be a software issue. Run an Adaware scan or Anti virus scan. Also remove any recently installed applications, do a system restore if possible. (or last known good configuration)

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@pushy: the cabby has slot @ top?

wot u mean by slot? if u mean postion of SMPS in teh cabinet, it's placed at TOP then covered by cabinet.

Imrahn, check teh zebronics link iHas given, u see teh wordings written in front of teh cabinet, well in teh same line back of it(iMean rear of cabinet) has teh SMPS aKa teh top place. do u get me?

also i read in CHIP forus that Corsair SMPS r reliable than CM? WTF!!!

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having a problem with my PC and i was wondering if yall could figure out what the cause of it is

 

my PC randomly starts freezing.....sometimes it happens twice in an hour and sometimes it will run all day without freezing, but the freezing is quite frequent and it happens in one of two ways

 

1. there is a click sound from the cabinet like someone flipped a switch following which the screen freezes and mouse and keyboard become unresponsive...have to reboot from the cabinet

2. there is a similar click sound, but this time in my speakers/headphones following which the screen goes black (it goes off as if its not receiving a signal) and the cabinet looks and sounds like its reebooting....ROM drive lights start flashing like it does when you reboot....but the screen remains black and again i have to reboot from the cabinet

 

i recently bought a new graphics card - geforce 6200 AGP card....i had some problems with the driver that i got off the nvidia site so i'm currently on the default display driver that windows installed....could that be the issue?

 

someone told me to reinstall windows but i havent got around to it coz the amount of workload desnt give me the time, but will it be necessary?

 

here's my PC specs:

AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.60 GHz

1GB RAM

Asus K8VMX motherboard (onboard sound)

GeForce 6200

 

any help would be appreciated :)

peace

 

then the clicking sound is from the HDD....

i'm guessin you have one of these local PSU's : Intex, Zebronics, or some other local make

 

you will need check and if required replace the PSU as well....

the problem starts with the PSU which causes the HDD to malfunction and if not rectified at the earliest will damage the mobo too....

 

first disconnect your HDD and hook it up to another PC setup to see if its damaged

second if you have a spare HDD or can get your hands on one, then hook the spare HDD to your pc to see if the mobo works fine

while you're examining the PSU and HDD, buy yourself a quality PSU.....the POV black diamond 500W retails between rs.2500-3000/- i think

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wot u mean by slot? if u mean postion of SMPS in teh cabinet, it's placed at TOP then covered by cabinet.

Imrahn, check teh zebronics link iHas given, teh Lava model is at bottom(black one iHas) u see teh wordings written in front of teh cabinet, well in teh same line back of it(iMean rear of cabinet) has teh SMPS aKa teh top place. do u get me?

also i read in CHIP forus that Corsair SMPS r reliable than CM? WTF!!!

 

abt CM and Corsair, u can't make a mistake choosing any of them.Both are awesome makers.

 

and abt the cooling fan position, i can't comment.My cab is Antec 900 and the PSU is at the bottom. But the g-card is at the bottommost X16 slot and is almost touching whence closing the top exhaust of the PSU but its as fine as it is.

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abt CM and Corsair, u can't make a mistake choosing any of them.Both are awesome makers.

 

and abt the cooling fan position, i can't comment.My cab is Antec 900 and the PSU is at the bottom. But the g-card is at the bottommost X16 slot and is almost touching whence closing the top exhaust of the PSU but its as fine as it is.

it's someting like this bro, me cabinet from rear(this is not Lava model, but an example)

see teh SMPS location, same is in me case

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lol, that was what i was also saying, even though i have the PSU at bottom,the fan opening is closed by the graphics card - in the above pic, its closed by the cabby top.So, i dunno if it will pose a prob or not.

exaclty, it's top is closed by teh cabinet, so where will teh CM 750 Real Power Pro's SMPS cooling fan throw teh air? so should i go for Corsair?

BTW any compatibilty issues with SMPS and UPS? i read this @ thinkdigit forums, "I blew my PSU Corsair 620 Watt using with APC Back UPS 1000 VA".

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Uncle Sam, me facing same issue here, frequent restarts or restart after long hours, it's SMPS problem dude,U and ineedZ to change teh SMPS to solve teh problame.

if u has warranty left on ur SMPS, tell teh beetches that "SMPS won't take load", then they will either replace it or repair it.

or if u r out of warranty, buy a new one, a good one(Coolermaster recommended coz even me going after it)

here http://theitwares.com/smps/smps.htm iGoes for 600W one or if iMom agrees to shell out more, then iGoes phor corsair 650W.

btw i dunno how much i should go phor, in future iWill buy 8800 GTX so which one u guys recommend?

me rig:

CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2400 MHz (9 x 267)

Motherboard Name Intel Pearl Creek DG31PR (2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, Gigabit LAN)

System Memory 2044 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO (512 MB)

Disk Drive WDC WD2500AAJS-00VTA0 (232 GB, IDE)

Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1S

 

with the 8800GTX upgrade i'd suggest the corsair TX650W(NON-MOD) or HX620W(MOD)

keep in mind the corsair PSU's are future proof(SLI) and so the extra dough is worth it

 

but if price is an issue

then get this combo

8800GTS 512(single only) + POV BD 500W/650W (instead of a 8800GTX)

 

DO NOT ATTEMPT to run an 8800GTX(single only possible) or any CF/SLI setup on the POV BD 500W/650W PSU's as they have only a single Y 6-pin cable even though the amps on the 12V rails exceed 30.....the trick is to use 2 seperate 6-pin cables....2x8-pin(2+6) cables which is standard with the HX620/TX650

 

also can someone recommend a laptop for less than 25k? All it needs to run is MS Office

peace

 

get yourself an ASUS EEE PC 4G for 13k

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Guys in Bangalore....what will be the individual price of the below listed components for a gaming PC?

 

Intel C2D E7200

Intel IP965 MoBo

1 Gb DDR2 800 Mhz

LiteOn SATA DVD Writer

Coolermaster Cabinet

Coolermaster 600W PSU

 

If you managed to get a good deal on them from somewhere, do tell me as well.

 

Remaining parts, I already have like,

 

8800 GTS 320 Mb

320 Gb Weston Digital 5200 RPM

Keyboard

Mouse

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