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Okay i asked a dealer here, he said that get i5 4670K with Asus 287 PRO

as GIGABYTE has some service issues

 

Alpha dude, that config you gave is all based on cabinet i decided? i.e Crosair 400r or 500r

then don't, suggest me on a performance base not on cabinet.

 

Cabinet toh koi bhi chalega !!

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Cabinet has very little to do with the internals unless you are buying a top end card which is too big for a small cabinet.

 

Nothing in your config is based on your cabinet.

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Cabinet has very little to do with the internals unless you are buying a top end card which is too big for a small cabinet.

 

Nothing in your config is based on your cabinet.

 

Okay, i don't know but that crappy dealer said that to me , and he said that this rig gonna cost about 1.5 Lacs

what you gonna do with it?

 

i said gaming and he was like :mellow: ..

OK..

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Okay, i don't know but that crappy dealer said that to me , and he said that this rig gonna cost about 1.5 Lacs

what you gonna do with it?

 

i said gaming and he was like :mellow: ..

OK..

:rofl:

Dealer is trying to take you for a ride.

Don't let him

Check some other store

Worst case scenario buy everything online and assemble yourself

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That covers the cabinet. I believe monitor is also connected to UPS (specs of monitor). And what else is connected to the UPS (e.g. speakers, washing machine :P )?

 

The monitor isn't connected to the UPS. only the System and Speakers..

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Okay i asked a dealer here, he said that get i5 4670K with Asus 287 PRO

as GIGABYTE has some service issues

 

Hearing a lot about GIGABYTE after sales going down.

 

Are you going to over-clock or no?

 

And what is your final budget?

Alpha dude, that config you gave is all based on cabinet i decided? i.e Crosair 400r or 500r

then don't, suggest me on a performance base not on cabinet.

 

Cabinet toh koi bhi chalega !!

 

As Sackboy stated the cabinet does not affect your component choice unless you plan to purchase the cheapest stuff to save on cash.

 

Okay, i don't know but that crappy dealer said that to me , and he said that this rig gonna cost about 1.5 Lacs

what you gonna do with it?

 

i said gaming and he was like :mellow: ..

OK..

 

Get price quotes from multiple sources and try to pressure the best dealer (in your opinion) to give you a good deal.

Worst comes, get everything from flipkart or some Bombay based shop (with shipping option), catch your friend and assemble it and learn.

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:rofl:

Dealer is trying to take you for a ride.

Don't let him

Check some other store

Worst case scenario buy everything online and assemble yourself

 

Hell yes, this rig is gonna cost for like 90K.

this was just a small retailer, will ask my friend tomorrow who knows better than me.

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Hearing a lot about GIGABYTE after sales going down.

 

Are you going to over-clock or no?

 

And what is your final budget?

 

Want to go what you suggested, but also have to check it's availability, warranty, service and above all pricing

this GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Motherboard is quite cheap compared to Asus 287 PRO ..

and it's after sale service is good over here, what's your advice?

 

No i don't think i am going for over-clock, unless you'all say, can't decide right now.

 

let's say 80 to 90K..

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Hell yes, this rig is gonna cost for like 90K.

this was just a small retailer, will ask my friend tomorrow who knows better than me.

So you have decided to get the i5 4670k/r9 290 combo what i recommended :naughty: ?

 

Anyway

 

Please tell us what config have you decided upon

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As Sackboy stated the cabinet does not affect your component choice unless you plan to purchase the cheapest stuff to save on cash.

 

Get price quotes from multiple sources and try to pressure the best dealer (in your opinion) to give you a good deal.

Worst comes, get everything from flipkart or some Bombay based shop (with shipping option), catch your friend and assemble it and learn.

 

I don't want to go for Cheap stuff as they don't tend remain for long, not to mention the looks are crappy

a decent quality type stuffs is what i am looking for, that's why am asking you all.

 

Yes, am going to ask many other wholesalers/traders to get the best price.

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So you have decided to get the i5 4670k/r9 290 combo what i recommended :naughty: ?

 

Anyway

 

Please tell us what config have you decided upon

 

Intel Core i5 4670 Processor
GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Motherboard (not sure)
G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1866MHz (or Crosair)
MSi Radeon R9-290 4GB DDR5
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Seasonic M12II 650W
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 / Western Digital Blue Edition 1TB (additional hard-drive space can be added later)
HP / ASUS (boxed) optical drive
Corsair 400r or 500r
Have better options, please do tell
it's not yet final.
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Intel Core i5 4670 Processor
GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Motherboard (not sure)
G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1866MHz (or Crosair)
MSi Radeon R9-290 4GB DDR5
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Seasonic M12II 650W
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 / Western Digital Blue Edition 1TB (additional hard-drive space can be added later)
HP / ASUS (boxed) optical drive
Corsair 400r or 500r
Have better options, please do tell
it's not yet final.

 

1.You dont need to buy Hyper 212 EVO if you are not buying i5 4670K processor,Stock Cooler(the cooler what comes with the processor) will do for normal i5 4670

2.Get Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 instead of the MSI one

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Want to go what you suggested, but also have to check it's availability, warranty, service and above all pricing

this GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Motherboard is quite cheap compared to Asus 287 PRO ..

and it's after sale service is good over here, what's your advice?

 

Yeah! Purchase the GIGABYTE motherboard.

 

The ASUS one is more expensive but it does not hold anything for you, primary reason to go for it is over-clocking which you will not do. So not worth a purchase in my books.

 

Simply use the money saved to go for a SSD and the MSi R9-290.

Is there any place in Delhi where I can get Saphire R9 290 Tri-x for less than 36k? (I'm in Pune but my dad goes to delhi often so will have to arrange a deal)

 

Just go for the MSi Twin Frozr cooler based OC edition. It is available for ~34500/- at SMC International.

1.You dont need to buy Hyper 212 EVO if you are not buying i5 4670K processor,Stock Cooler(the cooler what comes with the processor) will do for normal i5 4670

 

The Hyper T4 / 212 EVO will be good investments considering he stays in Surat and the Haswell processors run pretty hot from the get go.

2.Get Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 instead of the MSI one

 

The MSi card is just as good if not better and acoustically outshines almost all cards in its price band.

Corsair 400r or 500r

 

Avoid the Corsair 500R. The 400R is a better cabinet and do take a look at the Cooler Master N400 and above cabinets, they don't look like much but surprisingly well appointed interiors.

 

Also, add a SSD to the mix, purchase a SAMSUNG 840 series drive (for OS and long-term installed applications) from onlyssd.com.

G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1866MHz (or Crosair)

 

G.Skill is better in my opinion.

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Intel Core i5 4670 Processor

GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Motherboard (not sure)

G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1866MHz (or Crosair)

MSi Radeon R9-290 4GB DDR5

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Seasonic M12II 650W

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 / Western Digital Blue Edition 1TB (additional hard-drive space can be added later)

HP / ASUS (boxed) optical drive

Corsair 400r or 500r

 

Have better options, please do tell

it's not yet final.

Everything seems good, do consider a better motherboard, a micro ATX form factor motherboard is something I cannot recommend and a single PCIex16 slot will limit you to one card, keep your options open so that you can buy another R9 290 second hand cheap some years down the line and go for crossfire.

 

SSD is not worth it unless you are finicky about load times and I have had bad experiences with them as they are very volatile.

 

Extra cooler is not required, you cannot overclock with that setup, go for extra case fans instead.

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The MSi card is just as good if not better and acoustically outshines almost all cards in its price band.

Dude.

You :loco: or what

You are recommending a MSI card over the Tri-X knowing about the heat issues,expensiveness and stock cooler design of the former?

Also DigiCare is a pain in the @$$ from what i've heard

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Everything seems good, do consider a better motherboard, a micro ATX form factor motherboard is something I cannot recommend and a single PCIex16 slot will limit you to one card, keep your options open so that you can buy another R9 290 second hand cheap some years down the line and go for crossfire.

 

Said motherboard supports a CrossFireX system.

 

And ideally, don't suggest a multi-GPU set-up then, it raises costs.

 

He would have to get a better cabinet, a better CPU heat-sink and better SMPS all for 'future' needs that may or may not be needed.

SSD is not worth it unless you are finicky about load times and I have had bad experiences with them as they are very volatile.

 

Extra cooler is not required, you cannot overclock with that setup, go for extra case fans instead.

 

SSD is a God send in most modern multi-player titles, even the older ones give you a decent boost in performance.

 

Extra cooler will be handy because he is in Surat, it gets hot there in summer, more than Delhi or Gurgaon.

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Dude.

You :loco: or what

You are recommending a MSI card over the Tri-X knowing about the heat issues,expensiveness and stock cooler design of the former?

Also DigiCare is a pain in the @$$ from what i've heard

 

Yeah! I have used Digicare once earlier, it is no better or worse than any other system in India. Especially when we have gems like Rashi.

 

MSi Twin Frozr R9-290, what did you miss in that to calling me a crackpot.

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Yeah! I have used Digicare once earlier, it is no better or worse than any other system in India. Especially when we have gems like Rashi.

 

MSi Twin Frozr R9-290, what did you miss in that to calling me a crackpot.

You didn't mention Twin Frozr ;) in Heaven's context

 

Intel Core i5 4670 Processor

GIGABYTE B85M-D3H Motherboard (not sure)

G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1866MHz (or Crosair)

MSi Radeon R9-290 4GB DDR5

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Seasonic M12II 650W

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 / Western Digital Blue Edition 1TB (additional hard-drive space can be added later)

HP / ASUS (boxed) optical drive

Corsair 400r or 500r

 

Have better options, please do tell

it's not yet final.

 

You mentioned it for the ColorCode guy

 

Just go for the MSi Twin Frozr cooler based OC edition. It is available for ~34500/- at SMC International.

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You didn't mention Twin Frozr ;) in Heaven's context

 

Stock AMD R9 cards are not worth the price and I would never recommend them. And the only reason to recommend MSi cards is because of the Twin Frozr cooler.

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