ALPHA17 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Okay this is for Afty Sir, here you go, How to jump-start a PC How to jump-start a SMPS I initially was going to connect the PC to the main TV but due to space constraints I'll be keeping the PC in my daughters room and stream from there. How much space do we have to spare near the T.V., can you give me rough dimensions. A µATX or m-ITX build should be enough for your needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbpoovannagamer Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Looking to replace my cpu cooler/fan with a new one that makes less noise and heat and also a another fan for my cabinet so saw this article on IGN INdia on aftermarket coolers....are they any good ? http://in.ign.com/pc/59648/feature/building-a-gaming-pc-the-cooling Computer FansAirflow-optimised: Corsair AF120 – Rs 950 onwardAvailable with LED in red, blue, purple and white colours, and without LED. Cooler Master Jetflo – Rs 1,200Available with LEDs in red, blue and white, or without LED Bitfenix Spectre Pro – Rs 950Available in red, green, blue and white LEDs Noctua NF-S12A – Rs 1,227Available in three variants, PWM – for PWM control, ULN – Ultra low noise, and FLX – Multiple RPM settings with low noise adaptors Static pressure-optimized Corsair SP120 – Rs 1,100 onwards Noctua NF-F12 – Rs 1,120 Aftermarket CoolerAir cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212X – Rs 2,667 Corsair A70 – Rs 3,532 Noctua NH-U12S – Rs 4,618 Noctua NH-U14S – Rs. 5319 Noctua NH-D14 – Rs 5,600 AIO water cooling Corsair H60 – Rs 4,500 Antec Kuhler H2O 620 – Rs 4,719 Corsair H80i – Rs 6,625 Antec Kuhler H2O 920 – Rs 7,525 Corsair H100i – Rs 7,870 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I'm not at home but the TV is a 32" LCD and its on a approx 40" length cabinet top. so if we move the TV we have about 8" to play with on one side. Depth is about 14". 1st and 2nd shelves are taken by the HT receiver and Cable box. No more shelves. Height of each shelf is about 6". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Looking to replace my cpu cooler/fan with a new one that makes less noise and heat and also a another fan for my cabinet You can look at the Bit Fenix Spectre series of fans alongside Corsair's AF series and the ubiquitous Cooler Master offerings @flipkart. For CPU cooler, unless you plan to over-clock, the Hyper 212X should be more than capable. I'm not at home but the TV is a 32" LCD and its on a approx 40" length cabinet top. so if we move the TV we have about 8" to play with on one side. Depth is about 14". 1st and 2nd shelves are taken by the HT receiver and Cable box. No more shelves. Height of each shelf is about 6". So you have space to plan an 7" long by 5" wide and 14" deep case, right or wrong (all measures approx.). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah. Already removed the GPU and tried booting without it. Still no power. I doubt faulty RAM would cause a no power issue. It would at least power on and then I might not get anything. Reseated the power connectors on the motherboard too. Is there any way I can directly turn on the PC without using the power switch on the cabinet, like I said, thats the most likely thing thats faulty (since its a new cabinet) aside from the PSU. OK, You might want to remove the motherboard from the PC and try booting it - It maybe that you maybe shorting the Mobo with the case. Happened to me while assembling my PC. Just put the motherboard on a box - connect the PSU to it and try switching it on. Another thing you might want to do is connecting the Motherboard Speaker to hear the error code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) So you have space to plan an 7" long by 5" wide and 14" deep case, right or wrong (all measures approx.). Yeah that sounds about right but that will be a tight fit I think? Edited July 14, 2014 by plasmakid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Yeah that sounds about right but that will be a tight fit I think? Yes, you will need specialised equipment for it. Which will cost. OK, You might want to remove the motherboard from the PC and try booting it - It maybe that you maybe shorting the Mobo with the case. Happened to me while assembling my PC. Just put the motherboard on a box - connect the PSU to it and try switching it on. If the motherboard was shorting with a contact inside the cabinet then would the PC not have powered up briefly before dying? Also, burn marks. Edited July 14, 2014 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yes, you will need specialised equipment for it. Which will cost. What you got on your mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 What you got on your mind? Streaming will need its own hardware baggage. Anyway, I am researching on it as HTPC's are niche products. Will reply in some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 So the motherboard is dead. Tried it in Nehru Place with an alternate PSU and the mobo still showed no signs of life. I think the PSU might have bought it as well. I can only hope the RAM sticks didnt fry when it happen. So now I need to get a new mobo since the old one isnt in warranty anymore. Problem is the old proccy is a C2D and I have no idea how much longer its gonna last. So I think I will just rip the guts out of the HTPC and restart with a new mobo/CPU/PSU combo. Hopefully I can find something under 10k. Need to start looking at mobos with HDMI out and a decentish onboard GPU. @plasmakid. Your dimensions might be a little too cramped for an HTPC. So unless you dont mind having it stand beside the cabinet or something then a media player is a good start. I would still vote for an HTPC. XBMC is amazing and I cant really go back to any media player after that but if there is no space then you have to make do with something else. Instead of building a PC you can always get something like Western Digital Live TV. Google it. Its about 7k-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok. So I've got a lot of things to research. Can anyone tell me what are the CPU, MB, RAM, PSU combos i should be looking at for both 1> HTPC 2> Media Streaming Server. And anything else you think I'll need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 So now I need to get a new mobo since the old one isnt in warranty anymore. Problem is the old proccy is a C2D and I have no idea how much longer its gonna last. So I think I will just rip the guts out of the HTPC and restart with a new mobo/CPU/PSU combo. Hopefully I can find something under 10k. Need to start looking at mobos with HDMI out and a decentish onboard GPU. AMD APU series is the only thing that kind of fits your budget. Ok. So I've got a lot of things to research. Can anyone tell me what are the CPU, MB, RAM, PSU combos i should be looking at for both 1> HTPC 2> Media Streaming Server. What hardware and OS you going to use? Are you going to stream over a local network or use physical cables to transfer media? Budget and what hardware can be accommodated in it? These should be your points of attention in the reasearch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) @plasmakid Have you seen the Intel NUC? I dunno. I am kinda looking into that myself. Looks interesting for an HTPC solution. @Alpha. Yeah looking into that myself. Problem is its hard to find a mobo that fits the budget and has an HDMI out. Ideally I wanna get a CPU+Mobo for about 8k ish and that leaves me room to get a CPU for another 2k ish. Or the Intel NUC for 10k but I will have to check and see if it will use my existing RAM. Edited July 14, 2014 by Aftrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Or the Intel NUC for 10k but I will have to check and see if it will use my existing RAM. It is expensive. 0.0 And NUC would be using Laptop RAM if I am not wrong. Edited July 14, 2014 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 The I5 series is. But the Celeron series is 10k. According to reviews it does a pretty great job at playing even high bitrate videos. I dont mind springing for new RAM, the form factor is so sexy though. But it would render my new cabinet utterly useless. So probably best if I avoid it I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 The I5 series is. But the Celeron series is 10k. According to reviews it does a pretty great job at playing even high bitrate videos. I dont mind springing for new RAM, the form factor is so sexy though. But it would render my new cabinet utterly useless. So probably best if I avoid it I guess. Interesting. I've been looking it up. So around 10K for the celeron series. I have 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 laptop ram lying about so that's taken care off. I'll need to spring for the HDD. What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Interesting. I've been looking it up. So around 10K for the celeron series. I have 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 laptop ram lying about so that's taken care off. I'll need to spring for the HDD. What else? RAM + HDD. Thats about it. Should work as a nice HTPC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Afty, you can test if the SMPS is working by shorting two of the pins in the main motherboard connector, and then plug maybe a case fan into a molex cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah I've seen that shorting trick when liquid cooling modders try to check their loop and pump. You have to short 2 cables in your 24 pin connector with a paper clip (goggle n check), then connect the pump, or fan in your case, to the PSU and turn on power. This way you bypass everything and can directly check if PSU is fine or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Afty, you can test if the SMPS is working by shorting two of the pins in the main motherboard connector, and then plug maybe a case fan into a molex cable. I think its too late anyway. Thing is, I already know for certain the motherboard is dead (tested in at Nehru Place with a different PSU). Which means I am gonna get a new Mobo anyway. Which in turn means I need to pick up an new CPU too. And if I am doing that, might as well bite down and get a new PSU. This one is 7 years old and its seen a crapton of usage. So even if its working fine (it wouldnt surprise me if it aint) then it cant have much life left in it. I mean, I am surprised it lasted as long as it did. I dont remember who recommended Amigo when I bought it but, I owe that guy one. Plus PSU shouldnt be that expensive anyway. The options I am looking at right now are all very low power draw. Any half decent PSU @ 2k should do the trick. Interesting. I've been looking it up. So around 10K for the celeron series. I have 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 laptop ram lying about so that's taken care off. I'll need to spring for the HDD. What else? Thats pretty much it from what I know of. As long as it can play HD videos its a really interesting idea. Shove in some RAM and HDD, install Win 8.1 and XMBC. And voila, instant HTPC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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