Joyous Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I have upgraded my OS to Windows 10 which has DirectX version 12. After upgrading, I installed GTA4 game in it. Now directx version changed to 10.1. How can I get directX 12 back? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 ^ GTA IV needs DirectX 10.1 to run, I doubt it has wholesale downgraded your DirectX version. You can download the latest version of DirectX from here. Moving thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazekage Gaara Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 ^ GTA IV needs DirectX 10.1 to run, I doubt it has wholesale downgraded your DirectX version. You can download the latest version of DirectX from here. Moving thread. Hey Alpha Bro... Any input on my questions above? Am I thinking too much? Am so sorry to bother you like this. It's just that there is SO MUCH STUFF OUT THERE, it can be OVERWHELMING!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan_Hunt Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lol does anyone have a service center in india. Asus does not count btw as it's handled by Rashi. Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk I had sent my MSI GTX560Ti to be repaired last year as it was heating up and shutting down my whole rig. My brother dropped it at their service centre in Lamington road. Took them about a month (and an E-mail to their MSI head in Taiwan) to have it fixed. So I can confirm, they do have support over here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroNeo Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I had sent my MSI GTX560Ti to be repaired last year as it was heating up and shutting down my whole rig. My brother dropped it at their service centre in Lamington road. Took them about a month (and an E-mail to their MSI head in Taiwan) to have it fixed. So I can confirm, they do have support over here. Thanks, how is the card working now ? Does it make noise while playing heavy games or video editing? And do you like the twin frozr they use on the card ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan_Hunt Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks, how is the card working now ? Does it make noise while playing heavy games or video editing? And do you like the twin frozr they use on the card ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk I haven't used it since I switched to the 970, but I used it for almost 9 months post repair and it worked perfectly fine. Noise was minimal. The Twin Frozr design is quite fancy, but just like any other card, it is susceptible to dust. The cooling system was pretty efficient for 2 years and since my cleaning routine is quite lousy, it gave into heating issues. So if you have an OCD for keeping things clean, you shouldn't be worried about heat issues. My current Zotac one has decent temps considering it's basic cooling design. Dinjo got his Asus Strix so might be worth checking it out. You won't go wrong with this card, as far as performance is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroNeo Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks, is a monthly cleaning routine emough ? I use those small water color brushes to clean my card fans. Also some computer guy had told me to use a pencil eraser to clean the bottom part of the card or ram that goes into the respective slots. Is that method right or it will cause damage ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan_Hunt Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Monthly cleaning should be fine. If you have a small blower, that should clear out the dust in the inner grills. Skip the eraser part as that's not really essential for GPU's. Be sure to keep a utility to monitor the temps to see if you're in the safe zone. Rest should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks, is a monthly cleaning routine emough ? I use those small water color brushes to clean my card fans. Also some computer guy had told me to use a pencil eraser to clean the bottom part of the card or ram that goes into the respective slots. Is that method right or it will cause damage ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk dont touch the RAM and GPU contacts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nr.Draca47 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Also, Alpha, on the Cooler Master website, there seems to be TWO VERSIONS of Cooler Master Silencio 120 FP. 1. Silencio FP 120 PWM with a 4-pin connector and better RPM of 1400 and CFM of 44. 2. Silencio FP 120 3PIN with a 3-pin connector and lower RPM of 1200 and CFM of 38. Which ones will you be getting me? Which ones should I actually be getting? Any Pros and Cons? Edit: I just did my research on PWM, and it seems the motherboard should actually have the capability of PWM (am I correct?), and from what little research I did, the mobo that you've recommended me (GIGABYTE B85M-D3H) does have PWM control for fans. This is what I could piece together in 45 mins of internet research. Please correct me if I am wrong Edit II: Also, Alpha, can you tell me something about Cooler Master JetFlo fans? They seem to be quite capable fans with really high CFMs. Fan pins: Two are for dc power, third is for feedback that the fan is working or not, fouth pin allows cpu/mobo to control the speed of the fans.So, 3pin fans work at full speed while pwn/4pin fans are regulated. It is better to buy pwn fans as when the system is idle they would be running at slowest speeds (hardly any noise). JetFlo are the fastest fans by coolermaster. I think the price is 5k while 2nd best XtraFlo fans are tagged at 2.5k (not sure abt price). When buying fans you should be looking for Static pressure and CFM. CFM when you need to throw most air at something or out of something, they work best as exhaust. SP fans can thow air at long range, work best at restricted cabinets or as CPU coolers. I think Corsair has them separately arranged, CM get confusing. Edited September 5, 2015 by Nr.Draca47 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 47 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Are MGS Nvidia drivers stable..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazekage Gaara Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Fan pins: Two are for dc power, third is for feedback that the fan is working or not, fouth pin allows cpu/mobo to control the speed of the fans.So, 3pin fans work at full speed while pwn/4pin fans are regulated. It is better to buy pwn fans as when the system is idle they would be running at slowest speeds (hardly any noise). JetFlo are the fastest fans by coolermaster. I think the price is 5k while 2nd best XtraFlo fans are tagged at 2.5k (not sure abt price). When buying fans you should be looking for Static pressure and CFM. CFM when you need to throw most air at something or out of something, they work best as exhaust. SP fans can thow air at long range, work best at restricted cabinets or as CPU coolers. I think Corsair has them separately arranged, CM get confusing. Wow, thanx a lot for a very good explanation. I just got my graphics card and got the case from a friend who isn't using it anymore. So far, I have decided to just go with what Alpha recommended, the Cooler Master Silencio 120 FP PWM. They are being advertised as having really good life expectancy and approximately 45 CFM and with PWM for fan control. http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/case-fan/silencio-fp-120-pwm/ I think I should go for a SP fan for my front intake, but to tell you the truth, those high speed fans are really out of my budget. Currently, I have decided to get THREE of the above Siliencio 120 mm fans, 1 front intake, 1 side panel intake, and 1 top exhaust (which will be aided by the already present back exhaust fan) The BEST PART, Alpha is getting me a REALLY GOOD PRICE on those and now they're within my budget Many of my friends are saying there's no need for fans and that I can either get them later on during summertime or skip them altogether. Am just going with my hunch here and getting the above fans just so I can provide COMPARATIVELY BETTER airflow than no fans at all Wanna give the BEST OF EVERYTHING to my brand new Asus Strix GTX 970 Edited September 5, 2015 by Kazekage Gaara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nr.Draca47 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 1. I think I should go for a SP fan for my front intake, but to tell you the truth, those high speed fans are really out of my budget. Currently, I have decided to get THREE of the above Siliencio 120 mm fans, 1 front intake, 1 side panel intake, and 1 top exhaust (which will be aided by the already present back exhaust fan) The BEST PART, Alpha is getting me a REALLY GOOD PRICE on those and now they're within my budget 2. Many of my friends are saying there's no need for fans and that I can either get them later on during summertime or skip them altogether. Am just going with my hunch here and getting the above fans just so I can provide COMPARATIVELY BETTER airflow than no fans at all 1. They are very costly so yea its ok to skip them. I just told you how airflow and fans work, rest its up to you to figure out how to get best airflow in your budget. Alsoanother i forgot to tell about positive pressure; you need to have more air going inside the chassis than the air exhauted. To sum up, you have 3 fans for intake (1side, 1front, 1psu inbuilt) and 2 exhaust (1top, 1rear). Looks pretty much calculated. 2. Fans are a MUST (atleast 3). Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazekage Gaara Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) 1. They are very costly so yea its ok to skip them. I just told you how airflow and fans work, rest its up to you to figure out how to get best airflow in your budget. Alsoanother i forgot to tell about positive pressure; you need to have more air going inside the chassis than the air exhauted. To sum up, you have 3 fans for intake (1side, 1front, 1psu inbuilt) and 2 exhaust (1top, 1rear). Looks pretty much calculated. 2. Fans are a MUST (atleast 3). Period. Thanx a lot for the input bro. Really appreciate the info Yes, it is calculated Did a lot of research on the internet and read a lot of threads on various forums. Basic funda that I learned was that hot air naturally rises up, hence TOP EXHAUST, and then I also learned that I don't need to put TWO AT THE TOP because the fan on the back is already working as an exhaust Another conclusion I came to is that the top doesn't necessarily need to be a 140 mm because it's already being helped by the back exhaust. Front intake is A NO BRAINER. The side panel I am setting up as intake is because I think it would help out my GPU a lot. It's the Asus Strix edition and the GPU's fans won’t turn on until a certain temperature threshold (mid 60s) is reached. Hence am thinking, even when the GPU fans are turned off, the side panel intake would help it out By the way, I am GLAD you mentioned the PSU. Here's what my case looks like. It's an old NZXT case that I got from my friend who's no longer using it... As you can see, the bottom GRILL MESH will be COMPLETELY COVERED by the PSU (installed fan facing downwards, right?). Now, I don't even know whether the PSU fan will be an intake fan or an exhaust fan and given the case I have, am not even sure whether the PSU fan would be "collaborating" with my current setup of fans Would love to have your input on the PSU fan situation Edited September 5, 2015 by Kazekage Gaara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroNeo Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Since we are on this airflow topic. I have a 200mm fan on the front and 120mm fan on the back of my CM 693 windowed. I have the noctua CPU cooler. With the gfx card fans and psu fan. Is my airflow good ? IDK if i can add a top fan with a noctua d15 or a u14s CPU cooler. Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk Edited September 5, 2015 by NitroNeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazekage Gaara Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Since we are on this airflow topic. I have a 200mm fan on the front and 120mm fan on the back of my CM 693 windowed. I have the noctua CPU cooler. With the gfx card fans and psu fan. Is my airflow good ? IDK if i can add a top fan with a noctua d15 or a u14s CPU cooler. Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk The Noctua d15 seems like a BEAST. Do you intend to overclock your CPU? Anyways, the official info of Cooler Master CM 690 III says this... http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower-cm690-series/cm693/ Cooling System Top: 120/140mm fan x 2, or 200mm fan x 1 (optional) Front: 200mm fan x 1 (installed), or 120/140mm fan x 2 , 180mm fan x 1(optional) Rear: 120mm fan x 1 (installed) Side: 120mm fan x 2 or 180/200mm fan x 1(optional) - for CMS-693-KKN1 (standard version) only Bottom: 120mm fan x 1 (optional) HDD cage: 120mm fan x 1 (optional) And from the looks of the case in the pics, there seems to be quite a lot of headroom for installing a top fan. Since you only have ONE EXHAUST fan, I would suggest you install at least one more exhaust fan at the top Your front intake fan seems really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroNeo Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I don't intend to overclock. My PC table has a drawer above the cabinet area. So will the heat pile up and cause the top of the cabinet or drawer to heat up ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazekage Gaara Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I don't intend to overclock. My PC table has a drawer above the cabinet area. So will the heat pile up and cause the top of the cabinet or drawer to heat up ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk Am sorry bro. I have NO IDEA. This my FIRST PC GRAPHICS CARD and my FIRST HIGH-END PC BUILD May be someone more experienced and who's already had a high tech build can answer your question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nr.Draca47 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 As you can see, the bottom GRILL MESH will be COMPLETELY COVERED by the PSU (installed fan facing downwards, right?). Now, I don't even know whether the PSU fan will be an intake fan or an exhaust fan and given the case I have, am not even sure whether the PSU fan would be "collaborating" with my current setup of fans Would love to have your input on the PSU fan situation Psu fan faces downwards, yes, and it acts as an intake fan. I don't intend to overclock. My PC table has a drawer above the cabinet area. So will the heat pile up and cause the top of the cabinet or drawer to heat up ? Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk Theoretically, a lot of air is building up inside the cabinet so you need to let it out more. You need a small top exhaust and it will slightly/moderately heat drawers bottom, a lil too to the top of cabinet (but it shouldnt be a worry). Practically, if you are getting idle temps at 35-40 and hottest 60-70, then you dont need any fan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Solved the scroll pad problem by installing new driver. Uninstalled AVAST and my internet connection at home became almost unsuable, the DNS would be unreachable 75% of times. reinstalling avast to see if the issue get rectified. The battery life is down by more than 50% this is despite the installation of latest drivers. Thought of resetting the windows, however, i would be loosing out on the install of Rome total war game as well as office (to which i do not have the produt key anymore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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