ALPHA17 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, zibalingz said: Not that the 1600x isn't good, infact it's better in terms of performance compared to Skylake when it comes to min fps performance...which are those dips and stutters games somtimes have when running at max performance...are eliminated on Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 processors. But the 7700k can push raw fps numbers beyond what Ryzen's best can offer right now. So bottomline spend more on a better processor. 4 Raw numbers do not mean much if your average frame percentiles are same. Your perception of smoothness is not so much affected by the highest numbers posted but by the consistency of posting these numbers. Also, Ryzen CPU's hands down kerb stomp the Intel processors when gaming and recording or gaming and streaming live. 2 hours ago, Ankitgahlot said: Hey guys, i am building my own 4k gaming system under 2 lakhs. below is a list of components which i have come across and found out that it is suitable for 4k gaming. Is there anything else better which i can get then do let me know. Tell me about your 4k rigs. Please ignore the cost of other components like mouse, keyboard, monitor, hdd as i will be using them from my previous pc. 1.Processor-AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (18,950) 2.MOBO- GA-AX370-Gaming K5(18,200) 3.GPU-ZOTAC GRAPHICS CARD PASCAL SERIES - GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDDR5X AMP EXTREME (68,400)x2=1,36,800 4.RAM- 16 GB DDR4 (11,000) 5.Case- Corsair crystal 570X (13,720) total cost-1,98,670 8 @Ankitgahlot, apart from the chassis, looks good. If you want a tempered glass chassis, go for the Corsair Crystal 460X. Much better design than the senior 570X which has so much wasted space on it, that it is not even funny. Alternatively look at the Cooler Master MasterCase 5t. What about power-supply? What about the hard-drive and SSD's, RAM, do you have old stuff lying around or you got to purchase that too? Avoid, SLi and CrossFire setup's as far as possible. Go with a single GPU? Where are you based out of, can I interest you in a custom built PC from my side? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 @alpha17 i chose 570x because i want to try my hands on liquid cooling in future. Hence that space will be vital for me.About psu, people referred me a 650W supply as it will be enough considering i use one 1080 ti.About ram i am going with 2 8gb 3200 ddr4. Still to make up my mind over the brand. Yes i already have ssd and hdd. I am based in new delhi. And thanx for the offer bro but i am looking to build my own rig. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ankitgahlot said: I am based in new delhi. And thanx for the offer bro but i am looking to build my own rig. 2 The offer is to allow you to build your own PC, I will just sell you the parts is all or if you want to have them shipped to your place and assemble it with you. What say? 8 minutes ago, Ankitgahlot said: @alpha17 i chose 570x because i want to try my hands on liquid cooling in future. Hence that space will be vital for me. 2 The Corsair 460X supports water cooling too and has a more efficient internal layout than the 570X. Trust me, have built in both the chassis. If you are saying custom loops, look at stuff like Cooler Master MasterCase 5 because the glass panelling on the Corsair chassis is actually just as good at hindering airflow as it looks sexy. About psu, people referred me a 650W supply as it will be enough considering i use one 1080 ti. About ram i am going with 2 8gb 3200 ddr4. Still to make up my mind over the brand. 7 Yeah! That is a sensible PSU to get, a Corsair RM650x or Cooler Master V650. For RAM, since you are getting an AMD build, why not go with a Corsair Vengeance RGB 2400MHz RGB kit and overclock it since you are going for an AMD build. Alternately if you want plain RAM in a specific colour, get the Kingston HyperX Savage series 2400MHz kits and same. Edited June 13, 2017 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Okay. Pm me your number i will contact you. Where do you stay? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ankitgahlot said: Okay. Pm me your number i will contact you. Where do you stay? 1 I am based out of NOIDA. PM on your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 @alpha17 do you have an office address or something ? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Ankitgahlot said: @alpha17 do you have an office address or something ? 1 Currently in Delhi, no. The concern in HQ'ed in Bombay and basically works on building completely custom RIGs and shipping them. I see people want stuff with a more personal touch which is why I offered you my contact details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Yeah got it. Will let you know. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Cool man, drop a line. =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zibalingz Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ankitgahlot said: @zibalingz you should check a lot more about cpu. because @ 4k resolutions the load is on gpu not on cpu. so investing more on a gpu is better. moreover most games run flawlessly on a 4 core 8 thread cpu. Getting a 8 core 16 thread cpu is overkill for a gaming setup. the sweet spot of cpu for gaming is between 4 cores 8 thread to 6 core 12 thread only. after that there is not a big difference. Yes ryzen 5 1600x is 6 core 12 thread. about the GPU i agree someone told me the same about the SLI. i guess i will stick to one 1080 ti only then. Also yes i do know about the screen input lag but that is not a concern for the time being. Making a 4k gaming pc is. P.S.- I mean no disrespect. Thank you for your input. Well it's upto you, i'd say logically ...going with the highest end of either Intel or AMD will future proof your rig. Dropping so much money on a 4K rig I would go for the best in class. period. And how do you think a 7700k is a overkill when a sli 1080ti is already an insane overkill ? Lol. Pardon me but once you take a look at the numbers of a 1600x against 7700k in 4k with a 1080ti , You can see it for yourself, but if you're an AMD guy then that's cool. 2 hours ago, ALPHA17 said: Raw numbers do not mean much if your average frame percentiles are same. Your perception of smoothness is not so much affected by the highest numbers posted but by the consistency of posting these numbers. Also, Ryzen CPU's hands down kerb stomp the Intel processors when gaming and recording or gaming and streaming live. i didn't know recording and streaming live were the criteria here, it's an already established fact "Kaby Lake" (correction) isn't unto the task when it comes to content creation, rendering and multitasking compared to Ryzen 5 and 7 But this is about gaming....So if you want 4K with a single 1080ti and you gave anyone a choice after they saw the game benchmark results between a Ryzen 1600 x and 7700k ...they're gonna take the 7700k hands down. Because if your'e already spending so much money on a rig like this... you'd rather go with the best, i dunno why would that even be such a hard choicee, unless you're a hardcore AMD fan. Regardless of bias I think just by looking on Youtube anyone can ascertain the 7700k is better in pure gaming. Like here - skip to 5:00 - and this is a Ryzen 7 Edited June 13, 2017 by zibalingz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 @zibalingz i7-7700k is a 4 core 8 thread cpu.Ryzen 5 1600x is a 6 core 12 thread cpu.i think you didn't get my point. For any type of gaming be it 1440p/1080p/2160p ,a processor with more cores and more threads is not always a best choice. As currently most games run on 4 cores 8 threads cpu.So getting a cpu with 8 core 16 threads is not a wise decision. Because the higher resolution you will try to achieve the load will shift from your cpu to your gpu. For 1080p gaming @ 60 fps i7-7700k will perform better than ryzen 5 1600x, there is no doubt about that. For 2160p gaming @ 60fps (4k)i7-7700k & Ryzen 5 1600x performs almost same. And in some games ryzen 5 1600x outperforms i7-7700k. So that's why i am asking you to do some more research on no. of cores required for gaming. I am not asking you to compare intel vs amd. P.S.- i am not a fan boy. I am making my first build. So i am only choosing the best available for me. As i am only interested in a gaming build. AlsoA 4 core 8 thread from intel cost ₹23kA 6 core 12 thread from intel cost ₹49kA 6 core 12 thread from amd cost ₹19kA 8 core 16 thread from amd cost ₹40kA 8 core 16 thread from intel cost ₹90k So tell me why should i spend more than twice or more where the gaming visuals are independent of the cpu cores and threads ? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 @Ankitgahlot Just to let you know a friend of mine went for the same build you've posted but as for the CPU side he choose Ryzen 1700 over i7 7700k Reason? Same performance half the price. I wonder if intel would beat that anytime soon! They're so desperate to compete with Ryzen now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 @heaven angel i understand that but i still think getting a 8 core 16 thread i.e. ryzen 7 1700 cpu is an overkill as those 2 cores 4 threads will always be idle. You can even ask him. His cpu will never clock more than 40% at full load. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Ankitgahlot said: @heaven angel i understand that but i still think getting a 8 core 16 thread i.e. ryzen 7 1700 cpu is an overkill as those 2 cores 4 threads will always be idle. You can even ask him. His cpu will never clock more than 40% at full load. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Well that is all upto you, besides he also uses his PC for video editing and rendering so those extra cores do help him. And please do let us know on which build did you finalized upon, it'll help me a bit building my next gaming rig in future! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankitgahlot Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 @heaven angel oh if he do video editing and stuff then yes that processor is perfect for him. But i am just making a build purely for gaming. Might install ubuntu/steamOS only. I won't even buy windows. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 But this is about gaming....So if you want 4K with a single 1080ti and you gave anyone a choice after they saw the game benchmark results between a Ryzen 1600 x and 7700k ...they're gonna take the 7700k hands down.No one uses their gaming PC for only gaming, gameplay recording is very common thanks to ShadowPlay and ReLive.More importantly, Core i5's and Core i7's get maxed out when gaming while Ryzen thanks to more cores does not.Another thing is, maximum numbers do not count for squat when average percentiles are same and the performance is not CPU bound as in this case. Sent from my Lenovo X3a40 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gauravmuk Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Anyone got any idea if there is any corsair dealer in Nehru Place? looking to buy Corsair Gaming K55 keyboard & Gaming Harpoon mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 ^ Hi Gaurav, there are dealers that stock Corsair components but not sure about them stocking gaming peripherals. I can make an enquiry in your name. What is your requirement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gauravmuk Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, ALPHA17 said: ^ Hi Gaurav, there are dealers that stock Corsair components but not sure about them stocking gaming peripherals. I can make an enquiry in your name. What is your requirement? 1. Corsair Gaming K55 keyboard https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Gaming-K55-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01M4LIKLI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497719358&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+gaming+k55+rgb+keyboard%2C+backlit+rgb+led 2. Corsair Gaming Harpoon mouse https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CH-9301011-NA-Harpoon-Backlit-Optical/dp/B01M9DDCKD/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B01M9DDCKD Thanks for your help bhai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 ^ I will PM you by Monday evening. Cheers! Are you only looking for these peripherals or are you looking in this budget range from all brands like LOGITECH and SteelSeries as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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