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9 hours ago, i_rock098 said:

So I have been out of the hardware loop for a bit and lately I have been hearing a lot about Ryzen and how it is pushing the barriers for performance in amazing budgets. Now I want to know is this really true or more hype like those AMD Bulldozer which was just smoke. Are Intel 8th generation similar priced cpu still better at gaming?
Also is this the right time to update my cpu? Been thinking about it for some time but was never too impressed with the cpu gains to actually pull the trigger. I am running a i5-2400 with a Gtx 1060 and a few games seem to bottleneck my cpu before my gpu is fully utilized.

 

Good time to upgrade. 

 

The Ryzen is definitely a better rounded offering compared to Intel's Coffee Lake range of processors although in a straight shoot out Intel will still win across the board for just gaming. 

 

I would still recommend the former over the latter, just wait for the RAM prices to drop and hopefully AMD's new budget range B450 motherboards will be in the market by that time. Also, since AMD has reiterated that they will support the AM4 socket till 2020, it means going forward if you have to upgrade in the next two-three years, you will not be forced to move your entire system (RAM +motherboard) when you drop in a new CPU, at max you will need to flash your BIOS and make sure you are getting a compatible chip to move up to. 

14 hours ago, kunallkw said:

1. 1080p freesync monitor (bigger in size ~27") 60hz

2. 1080p 144hz 24"

3. 1440p 60hz 24"

4. 4K 60hz 24"

 

All kind of line up in the same budget line 20-25K is where I'm drawing the line for this.

 

PS: Running a RX 470 4gig

 

For your requirements get a good 1080p FreeSync monitor from LG or Acer. High refresh-rate should be your highest priority at this point. 

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10 hours ago, ALPHA17 said:

For your requirements get a good 1080p FreeSync monitor from LG or Acer. High refresh-rate should be your highest priority at this point. 

 

Bit confused by the last statement. So are you suggesting I get a 144hz instead ?  I saw there are certain non Freesync 144hz monitors as well.

 

What do you think of these models and which one do you recommend - 

1. https://www.amazon.in/LG-27MP59G-IPS-LED/dp/B075V5F3N4

2. https://www.amazon.in/LG-24GM79G-B-Reduction-FreeSyncTM-Stabilizer/dp/B06XFGTGC4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1530517129&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+24gm79g-b

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Good time to upgrade. 
 
The Ryzen is definitely a better rounded offering compared to Intel's Coffee Lake range of processors although in a straight shoot out Intel will still win across the board for just gaming. 
 
I would still recommend the former over the latter, just wait for the RAM prices to drop and hopefully AMD's new budget range B450 motherboards will be in the market by that time. Also, since AMD has reiterated that they will support the AM4 socket till 2020, it means going forward if you have to upgrade in the next two-three years, you will not be forced to move your entire system (RAM +motherboard) when you drop in a new CPU, at max you will need to flash your BIOS and make sure you are getting a compatible chip to move up to. 
Hi thanks for the reply

Well to be honest now when I upgrade my cpu and motherboard now I want it to last as long as my Sandy bridge did which still runs amazing except the game bottlenecks.

What would be a budget cpu that I should upgrade to? As in the model number. I use my pc primarily for gaming and browsing no video editing or anything like that which possibly benefit from having more threads. Also a few doubts if you could answer

1) From the research on prices that I did, a competing Ryzen processor is more expensive on MD computers compared to its Intel equivalent. Why is that? should it not be the other way around?

2) From the comparison videos I saw between Intel 8400 and Amd 2600 they both had almost same fps in games but the Amd chip was sitting at around 35% utilization while the Intel one was at 80% why is that?

3) I have read that Zen 2 series is coming out later this year and it offers quite a significant performance boost. So I might as well wait for it since like I said I want to keep the cpu for a very long time.

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AMD's price advantage goes away when it enters India. Local computer shops usually offer lower prices at least in my city.
Exactly that's even for GPU AMD price sucks compared to Nvidia. Wish they actually offered comparable prices

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On 02/07/2018 at 5:59 PM, i_rock098 said:

Well to be honest now when I upgrade my cpu and motherboard now I want it to last as long as my Sandy bridge did which still runs amazing except the game bottlenecks.

What would be a budget cpu that I should upgrade to? As in the model number. I use my pc primarily for gaming and browsing no video editing or anything like that which possibly benefit from having more threads. Also a few doubts if you could answer

1) From the research on prices that I did, a competing Ryzen processor is more expensive on MD computers compared to its Intel equivalent. Why is that? should it not be the other way around?

2) From the comparison videos I saw between Intel 8400 and Amd 2600 they both had almost same fps in games but the Amd chip was sitting at around 35% utilization while the Intel one was at 80% why is that?

3) I have read that Zen 2 series is coming out later this year and it offers quite a significant performance boost. So I might as well wait for it since like I said I want to keep the cpu for a very long time.

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Answers, sequentially, 

  1.  Check local prices, please. 
  2. Because the Core i5 8400 /8500 is a hex-core processor while the Ryzen 5 2600 /2600X is a hex-core processor with SMT (AMD's version of Hyper-Threading), so effectively it shows up with 12 cores. More cores = more resources = more reserve juice in the tank going forward.
  3. Yes, there is talk of Ryzen 2 but it would likely be 2019 when it shows up here. If you can wait, why not. If not Ryzen+ is not a bad choice in itself. 
On 02/07/2018 at 7:04 PM, HEMAN said:

AMD's price advantage goes away when it enters India. Local computer shops usually offer lower prices at least in my city.

 

Not really, original Ryzen landing prices were pretty solid when it landed here. Retailers might have gotten a good response with Ryzen is my only explanation for now. 

On 02/07/2018 at 1:09 PM, kunallkw said:

Bit confused by the last statement. So are you suggesting I get a 144hz instead ?  I saw there are certain non Freesync 144hz monitors as well.

 

What do you think of these models and which one do you recommend - 

1. https://www.amazon.in/LG-27MP59G-IPS-LED/dp/B075V5F3N4

2. https://www.amazon.in/LG-24GM79G-B-Reduction-FreeSyncTM-Stabilizer/dp/B06XFGTGC4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1530517129&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+24gm79g-b

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Someone recently posted in the What I bought thread, check there and get in touch. 

 

But yes, the highest refresh rate monitor in your budget is what you should gun for. 

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Ryzen 5 2500G 12800/- inbuilt Vega graphics

Ryzen 5 1600 14900/-

 

Which processor is best? Requirement is gaming at 720p and programming .net / java.

 

I dont want to spend on gpu right now but have plans to add it after 1year. Also suggest motherboard for ryzen 5 with usb 3.1 and hdmi.. support of gpu gtx 1060.

 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, gmanu555 said:

Ryzen 5 2500G 12800/- inbuilt Vega graphics

Ryzen 5 1600 14900/-

 

Which processor is best? Requirement is gaming at 720p and programming .net / java.

 

I dont want to spend on gpu right now but have plans to add it after 1year. Also suggest motherboard for ryzen 5 with usb 3.1 and hdmi.. support of gpu gtx 1060.

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Do you have a GPU currently? 

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8 hours ago, ALPHA17 said:

 

Do you have a GPU currently? 

No. 

Im planning to use  ryzen 2500g inbuilt graphics for now. That way i can have entry level gaming pc for 40k.

Please suggest if there are any better options.

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14 hours ago, gmanu555 said:

No. 

Im planning to use  ryzen 2500g inbuilt graphics for now. That way i can have entry level gaming pc for 40k.

Please suggest if there are any better options.

 

What all do you need in that budget? Just the tower and its innards or the monitor, tower, peripherals all inclusive? 

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Can anyone suggest a high range Wifi router for home..

 

I presently have this router but it's not giving me proper range everywhere, should I get a new high range router or get a wifi extender? which is the better option?

 

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13 hours ago, gmanu555 said:

Tower and innards only.

 

 

Okay, cool. Hold up for a couple days then. Wait for the cheaper B450 motherboards to show up. They will be perfectly suited to your needs. Cheers! 

2 hours ago, Ethan_Hunt said:

Guys, what's a good budget motherboard for Intel Core i5 8400 processor? 

 

A good B360 chipset based motherboard from any of your preferred AiB partner is golden. Cheers! 

 

In fact, even this looks good. 

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A good B360 chipset based motherboard from any of your preferred AiB partner is golden. Cheers! 
 
In fact, even this looks good. 


Can't seem to open that link but the Asus h370 board sells for 10k on MD computers, is it worth going for that for a processor costing 14k?

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2 hours ago, i_rock098 said:

Can't seem to open that link but the Asus h370 board sells for 10k on MD computers, is it worth going for that for a processor costing 14k?

 

 

 

Nope, if you are building a new system, wait for the B450 boards from AMD to show up and then make a call. 

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8 hours ago, Ethan_Hunt said:

Guys, what's a good budget motherboard for Intel Core i5 8400 processor? 

 

If you can, wait for i5 9400 launch in ~september, new series will have hardware level spectre fixes. Current Intel gen is doomed and will get slower overtime due to software based bug fixes.

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10 hours ago, ALPHA17 said:

 

Okay, cool. Hold up for a couple days then. Wait for the cheaper B450 motherboards to show up. They will be perfectly suited to your needs. Cheers! 

 

A good B360 chipset based motherboard from any of your preferred AiB partner is golden. Cheers! 

 

In fact, even this looks good. 

 

Thanks! I found out that the boards for this generation of Intel processors is quite expensive. Since this is for a friend who's on a budget, he'll probably settle for a 7th Gen processor with a basic Gigabyte motherboard. 

 

4 hours ago, G33kgamer said:

 

If you can, wait for i5 9400 launch in ~september, new series will have hardware level spectre fixes. Current Intel gen is doomed and will get slower overtime due to software based bug fixes.

 

Unfortunately, it's for a friend who needs an urgent overhaul as his current rig is dead. So planning to grab the part urgently. 

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Unfortunately, it's for a friend who needs an urgent overhaul as his current rig is dead. So planning to grab the part urgently. 
From the research I have been doing myself regarding a cpu upgrade going for a 7th generation cpu right now is just utter waste of money especially if it's not a 7700k. The 8th generation beat it and how. I would say definitely wait if you can or at least get a Gen 1 ryzen

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