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1 hour ago, eddy4823 said:

Need suggestions for a Mechanical Keyboard. Budget is 3.5k max.

GK61 from Meckeys, whenever it comes in stock would be a perfect fit in that range, else you could extend your budget a bit and get, ASUS Tuf Mechanical, Xanova, CM masterkeys around 5-6K range!

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9 hours ago, eddy4823 said:

Need suggestions for a Mechanical Keyboard. Budget is 3.5k max.

 

Full or TKL or 60?

Cherry/Kailh/Gateron/?

Linear/Clicky/Tactile?

Quality? 

Wired/Wireless?

 

Or just want to experience mechanical keyboard? 

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2 hours ago, Joe Cool said:

 

Full or TKL or 60?

Cherry/Kailh/Gateron/?

Linear/Clicky/Tactile?

Quality? 

Wired/Wireless?

 

Or just want to experience mechanical keyboard? 

1. Full. (Sold my GK61 due to missing numpad.)  

2. Anything.  

3. Not sure what's the difference.

4. Not sure what do I have to say here. Good , Best ?
5. Less cords, less hassle. But can live with wires as well.

 

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10 hours ago, Gtek said:

GK61 from Meckeys, whenever it comes in stock would be a perfect fit in that range, else you could extend your budget a bit and get, ASUS Tuf Mechanical, Xanova, CM masterkeys around 5-6K range!

Sold my GK61 due to missing numpad. Plus, Red switches were a hassle to type on. Accidental presses were way too high.

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Wanted to build a pc for 4k 120hz gaming and (image and video) editing. Card will be 3080. Need help with rest of all the stuff. 

 

Don't want to get duped by the shop guys here, so asking for a build here.

 

So I will get the idea of which part goes with which part for best performance and also price.

 

Would have gone for amd gfx but i dont want to deal with the shitty driver updates and mess it all up.

 

budget would be 1-1.5 only looking for cpu... keyboard and mouse will buy later.

 

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, eddy4823 said:

1. Full. (Sold my GK61 due to missing numpad.)  

2. Anything.  

3. Not sure what's the difference.

4. Not sure what do I have to say here. Good , Best ?
5. Less cords, less hassle. But can live with wires as well.

 

37 minutes ago, eddy4823 said:

Sold my GK61 due to missing numpad. Plus, Red switches were a hassle to type on. Accidental presses were way too high.


Anything for Cherry/Kailh/Gateron/?

  • Cherry is usually the best but more expensive.
  • Kailh/Gateron are clone keys. Gateron is better than Kailh but taste is up to you. They are more smoother than Cherry. 
  • Romer-G isn't good. They are made by Logitech and used in lower entry keyboards. 

Linear/Clicky/Tactile? There is good difference. 

  • Linear is smooth and usually quiet. Good for gaming (red/yellow/black)
  • Clicky is typewriter. Loud but nice feeling (if you like typing). Good for typing / general usage (blue/green)
  • Tactile is slight bumpy feel (less than clicky) and less noisy than Clicky as well. Neutral (brown/clear)

Quality?

  • Most of the boards come with ABS keys. Not really an issue but slightly less quality and has shine. 
  • PBT caps are thick, high quality, more expensive. 

For you: If you finding red switches hard to type since they are smooth and accidental presses occur, I suggest going for Brown keys or Clicky blue. 

 

Won't really find good quality full board in that budget. Mostly Chinese knockoffs. 

  • Logitech G413 is budget board but uses Romer-G mechanical switches which aren't great and also kind of acquired taste. Suggest trying at store if possible. 
  • Logitech 512/513 is better choice if you want full mechanical keyboard. Quality, aluminum, RGB, switch selection. 2x budget though. 
  • Keychron K4 is full board but still compact. You can check that one too. 2x budget.

I don't recommended Razor products. I don't recommended entry level boards either. Waste of money. Personally I would suggest waiting. Save some more and get good quality board with Cherry keys as you won't be buying often unlike cheaper boards which don't last long. 

 

If you still want it right away, either Chinese knockoffs or G413 or other alternatives like CM Masterkeys and hope they last long enough. 

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10 minutes ago, KrIzAliD said:

Wanted to build a pc for 4k 120hz gaming and (image and video) editing. Card will be 3080. Need help with rest of all the stuff. 

 

Don't want to get duped by the shop guys here, so asking for a build here.

 

So I will get the idea of which part goes with which part for best performance and also price.

 

Would have gone for amd gfx but i dont want to deal with the shitty driver updates and mess it all up.

 

budget would be 1-1.5 only looking for cpu... keyboard and mouse will buy later.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Highly doubt that will fit in 1.5L budget. Maybe more 2L.

 

Spitballing some figures here.

 

Monitor - 50k, (since you want for image and video editing you will want an IPS panel)

GPU - 70k,

CPU - 30k,

Mobo - 20k

 

Remaining 30k will go for PSU, SSD, Cabinet, Mouse, Keyb etc

 

 

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Just now, dylanjosh said:

 

 

Highly doubt that will fit in 1.5L budget. Maybe more 2L.

 

Spitballing some figures here.

 

Monitor - 50k, (since you want for image and video editing you will want an IPS panel)

GPU - 70k,

CPU - 30k,

Mobo - 20k

 

Remaining 30k will go for PSU, Cabinet, Mouse, Keyb etc

 

chalega bhai.... let me know which will go with what i will see how can i get more of that 50k :P

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7 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

 


Anything for Cherry/Kailh/Gateron/?

  • Cherry is usually the best but more expensive.
  • Kailh/Gateron are clone keys. Gateron is better than Kailh but taste is up to you. They are more smoother than Cherry. 
  • Romer-G isn't good. They are made by Logitech and used in lower entry keyboards. 

Linear/Clicky/Tactile? There is good difference. 

  • Linear is smooth and usually quiet. Good for gaming (red/yellow/black)
  • Clicky is typewriter. Loud but nice feeling (if you like typing). Good for typing / general usage (blue/green)
  • Tactile is slight bumpy feel (less than clicky) and less noisy than Clicky as well. Neutral (brown/clear)

Quality?

  • Most of the boards come with ABS keys. Not really an issue but slightly less quality and has shine. 
  • PBT caps are thick, high quality, more expensive. 

For you: If you finding red switches hard to type since they are smooth and accidental presses occur, I suggest going for Brown keys or Clicky blue. 

 

Won't really find good quality full board in that budget. Mostly Chinese knockoffs. 

  • Logitech G413 is budget board but uses Romer-G mechanical switches which aren't great and also kind of acquired taste. Suggest trying at store if possible. 
  • Logitech 512/513 is better choice if you want full mechanical keyboard. Quality, aluminum, RGB, switch selection. 2x budget though. 
  • Keychron K4 is full board but still compact. You can check that one too. 2x budget.

I don't recommended Razor products. I don't recommended entry level boards either. Waste of money. Personally I would suggest waiting. Save some more and get good quality board with Cherry keys as you won't be buying often unlike cheaper boards which don't last long. 

 

If you still want it right away, either Chinese knockoffs or G413 or other alternatives like CM Masterkeys and hope they last long enough. 

Thank you so much dude for the detailed explanation. I would prefer blue clicky and so far, Keychron K4 seems all that I want. I can buy a cheap 400-800 rs one to manage for now and order Keychron when it's in stock. 

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1 hour ago, KrIzAliD said:

Wanted to build a pc for 4k 120hz gaming and (image and video) editing. Card will be 3080. Need help with rest of all the stuff. 

 

Don't want to get duped by the shop guys here, so asking for a build here.

 

So I will get the idea of which part goes with which part for best performance and also price.

 

Would have gone for amd gfx but i dont want to deal with the shitty driver updates and mess it all up.

 

budget would be 1-1.5 only looking for cpu... keyboard and mouse will buy later.

 

Highly suggest buying RTX 3080 FE at official price. 

 

Other stuff:

CPU

  • AMD CPU - wait for 5600x launch and decide CPU. 3600/x otherwise.
  • Intel CPU - 10600K or wait till Q1 2021. 9th gen if you find cheap. Example - 9700K/9900K for $170-200 / $270-300 is better than buying 3600. 

Board

  • AMD - MSI B450M Mortar (B550M if you plan to change CPU within 1-2 years). X570 if you want Gen4 support. ASUS TUF X570-P/Prime X570-P/ASRock X570 Taichi etc.
  • Intel - most Z490 boards are good. Choose between ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte. Slightly higher quality if you plan to OC. For 9th gen - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite/Pro.

RAM - totally up to you. 

  • Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz - RGB your choice. Check compatibility with your board for AMD. 
  • G.Skill also good. 

Storage

  • SSD - NVMe 500GB to 1TB. Samsung Pro / WD. Gen4 isn't worth the price. Crucial is cheap but slower.
  • SSD - SATA 500GB to 1TB if you can find cheaper than NVMe. They are still fantastic. 
  • HDD - Up to you. Seagate / WD 

Cooler 

  • AIO - Deepcool Castle 240EX/360EX (RGB also there). Lian Li Galahad 240/360. Artic and EKWB good as well. 
  • AIR - Noctua always but check case size before buying. Deepcool Assassin III. 

PSU - 750W Corsair/Antec. 80+ Plus bronze minimum. 

 

Case 

  • Lian Li o11 dynamic if fits in budget (requires extra fans). 
  • Lian Li Lancool II mesh
  • Phanteks P300A/400A/500A. 
  • Cooler Master H500/TD500 Mesh. 
  • Fractal Meshify C

Extra fans - not all cases require them. Check case before buying extra.

  • Totally up to you but any decent quality is must. Corsair/Deepcool/Noctua.
  • Lian Li Uni Fans if you can find and fit in budget.
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37 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

 

Highly suggest buying RTX 3080 FE at official price. 

 

Other stuff:

CPU

  • AMD CPU - wait for 5600x launch and decide CPU. 3600/x otherwise.
  • Intel CPU - 10600K or wait till Q1 2021. 9th gen if you find cheap. Example - 9700K/9900K for $170-200 / $270-300 is better than buying 3600. 

Board

  • AMD - MSI B450M Mortar (B550M if you plan to change CPU within 1-2 years). X570 if you want Gen4 support. ASUS TUF X570-P/Prime X570-P/ASRock X570 Taichi etc.
  • Intel - most Z490 boards are good. Choose between ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte. Slightly higher quality if you plan to OC. For 9th gen - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite/Pro.

RAM - totally up to you. 

  • Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz - RGB your choice. Check compatibility with your board for AMD. 
  • G.Skill also good. 

Cooler 

  • AIO - Deepcool Castle 240EX/360EX (RGB also there). Lian Li Galahad 240/360. Artic and EKWB good as well. 
  • AIR - Noctua always but check case size before buying. Deepcool Assassin III. 

PSU - 750W Corsair/Antec. 80+ Plus bronze minimum. 

 

Case 

  • Lian Li o11 dynamic if fits in budget (requires extra fans). 
  • Lian Li Lancool II mesh
  • Phanteks P300A/400A/500A. 
  • Cooler Master H500/TD500 Mesh. 
  • Fractal Meshify C

Extra fans - not all cases require them. Check case before buying extra.

  • Totally up to you but any decent quality is must. Corsair/Deepcool/Noctua.
  • Lian Li Uni Fans if you can find and fit in budget.

 

Thanks buddy... will bug you more later though :fear1:

 

Let me see those part prices on primeabgb <-- this site prices are good right?

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Added Storage. 

 

Can't help you with prices as I don't know. Best you search multiple sites, local stores, Facebook marketplace/groups and see where you getting best price. 

 

Feel free to tag if you have any query. 

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11 hours ago, HundredProofSam said:

I'm leaning towards the new Ryzen 5.

 

This will not be my primary gaming device since I game mostly on console, but I will be gaming on and off. And I'll be fine even if I can game at 1440p on medium-high settings. I'm currently on a 1080p display but just want to be future-ready.

 

 

Wait and get the 5600x. Its going to be great for gaming. Also, the multi-core performance is supposed to be almost as good as the 3700x.

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13 hours ago, HundredProofSam said:

No expert here but I've been reading up on AMD motherboards since I was buying one, and apparently Ryzen 5000s won't fully support the B450, and that BIOS update will be coming later as well. I think B550 or X570 would be more advisable considering the other components.

 

B450 will be supported from next year. BIOS update is expected after Jan. 

 

B550/X570 is best choice if you plan to change your current CPU to next.

 

13 hours ago, HundredProofSam said:

Coming to my build, I'm building a new PC for myself and I need a CPU recommendation. What I've bought so far:

  • NZXT H210i Mini ITX case
  • ASUS ROG Gaming B550-I motherboard
  • Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 32 GB
  • WD Black SN750 500 GB
  • NZXT Kraken X53 AIO

Using from existing PC:

  • Corsair RM650i PSU
  • 1 TB Crucial MX500 SATA SSD
  • GTX 1070 (will upgrade later when the new mid-range GPUs come in)

 

I'm leaning towards the new Ryzen 5.

 

This will not be my primary gaming device since I game mostly on console, but I will be gaming on and off. And I'll be fine even if I can game at 1440p on medium-high settings. I'm currently on a 1080p display but just want to be future-ready.

 

This will primarily be my work PC, which includes a fair amount of photo and video editing. Recommendations welcome, Thanks

 

3700/x if you want now. Else get 5600x. Heard there will be good stock worldwide. 

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Still too much for me man. I don’t think I can go over 30-35k. Maybe I’ll upgrade sometime next year depending on which Nvidia/AMD one is more affordable.

Speaking of which, does do Nvidia cards perform at full potential on PCs with AMD CPUs? This is the first time going with AMD so it’s all new for me.

Yeah, equivalent tier of cpu from both AMD or Intel won’t make any difference to a Nvidia card. SAM though is only available if you go full team red.


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Hi, I am looking to build a gaming PC, will be using the existing 1080P monitor. I had initially planned to go with this configuration but heard that the processor is no longer available. Can you guys suggest suitable alternatives? My budget is 75k, I intend to build the PC that should be able to run all upcoming games for the next 3 years at a decent quality on my monitor.

Build I had planned for is as below:
Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 2060
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX
2X 8GB 3200mhz RAM
1TB HDD
256GB SSD
Corsair CX550

Please advise if this is a good configuration, and suggest an alternative for the processor. Also is there any room to cut costs on certain parts based on the criteria I have?
Thanks.

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28 minutes ago, awasay said:

Hi, I am looking to build a gaming PC, will be using the existing 1080P monitor. I had initially planned to go with this configuration but heard that the processor is no longer available. Can you guys suggest suitable alternatives? My budget is 75k, I intend to build the PC that should be able to run all upcoming games for the next 3 years at a decent quality on my monitor.

Build I had planned for is as below:
Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 2060
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX
2X 8GB 3200mhz RAM
1TB HDD
256GB SSD
Corsair CX550

Please advise if this is a good configuration, and suggest an alternative for the processor. Also is there any room to cut costs on certain parts based on the criteria I have?
Thanks.

 

Can you save up for RTX 3060 instead? Guessing It should be around 35k here and launch in ~Jan.  

 

Rest of the build looks good to me. 

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