Hitzzz Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Hello, I am planning to buy a gaming monitor but have some doubts which needs to be cleared. Monitor :: Benq XL2420T or Benq XL2411T. Nvidia 3d Vision 2 Kit Compatible GPU :: not sure -- please suggest. Now my question that will Nvidia 3d Vision 2 Kit will work with Benq XL2420T because as per nvidia website "3D Vision HDMI Support" is not available also read most forums / threads regarding this and get the information that 3D over HDMI is not supported. To get this working it needs to use dual link DVI-D cable or display port to get this working as HDMI is not supported for 3D games at 120hz. It will only be useful for movies and maybe playstation (as per forums). Now is anyone is using the Benq XL2420T or Benq XL2411T and Nvidia 3d Vision 2 Kit and working can you please provide me with the working of it with steps or photos or upload a video on youtube that would be great. Also please suggest a compatible GPU graphic card for this setup. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 ^^ First things first. Budget? What all games do you plan to play in 3D? Also, both the monitors you have short-listed are compatible with nVidia's 3D Vision program, they have DL-DVI ports as well over which I think the 3D system functions. Although if you have a spare HDMI cable on you, you can try out and test that approach as well. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Also, welcome to the forums. Have a pleasant stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 ^^ First things first. Budget? What all games do you plan to play in 3D? Also, both the monitors you have short-listed are compatible with nVidia's 3D Vision program, they have DL-DVI ports as well over which I think the 3D system functions. Although if you have a spare HDMI cable on you, you can try out and test that approach as well. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Also, welcome to the forums. Have a pleasant stay. Hi Alpha17, At this point of time my budget is something around 30k + 3k more or less including monitor + 3D vision kit. All the titles I would like to play which are 3D supported. I would like to add that currently I was using 17" CRT viewsonic E72f monitor from past 10 years which is now dead so decided to buy a new one and in next year I would be buying a GPU so some suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 At this point of time my budget is something around 30k + 3k more or less including monitor + 3D vision kit. All the titles I would like to play which are 3D supported. I would like to add that currently I was using 17" CRT viewsonic E72f monitor from past 10 years which is now dead so decided to buy a new one and in next year I would be buying a GPU so some suggestions would be much appreciated. What GPU have you got currently? This will affect the performance of the current set-up. Also, the monitors you have selected themselves cost close to ~25000/-. The 3D Vision kit costs ~14000/-. So the maths does not add up. Where are you based and how will you source all these components? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 What GPU have you got currently? This will affect the performance of the current set-up. Also, the monitors you have selected themselves cost close to ~25000/-. The 3D Vision kit costs ~14000/-. So the maths does not add up. Where are you based and how will you source all these components? Okay the budget can be increased to 40K. I am living in Nashik, Maharashtra and Mumbai / Pune or Online will be my sources for components. Here's my system configuration :: Processor :: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz Mobo :: Intel DX48BT2 Ram :: Transcend 2x2 GB DDR3 1333 HDD :: 1. Seagate Baracuda 300 GB @7200 HDD :: 2. Seagate Baracuda 2 TB @7200 GPU :: Geforce PCX 5300 128 bit (Need to upgrade) PSU :: Coolermaster 500 Watts (Need to upgrade) Display :: Need to buy Speakers :: Altec Lancing 5.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Here's my system configuration In my opinion it would be better if you went for a comprehensive upgrade, CPU + Motherboard + GPU (and SMPS) a little later or in phases (with your current budget) rather than focus on getting a 3D Monitor and associated peripherals. Let me know if that is agreeable to you, if no, then I can let you know a couple of dealers in Pune, Bombay and you can source from them at your discretion. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 In my opinion it would be better if you went for a comprehensive upgrade, CPU + Motherboard + GPU (and SMPS) a little later or in phases (with your current budget) rather than focus on getting a 3D Monitor and associated peripherals. Let me know if that is agreeable to you, if no, then I can let you know a couple of dealers in Pune, Bombay and you can source from them at your discretion. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Thank you for your suggestions. But upgrading all at once will not fit in my budget as I am a salaried employee so upgrading will be done partially. As an when I will buy GPU a high powered PSU (SMPS) will be necessary as my current PSU will not have enough power to handle it. Now I just want to focus on Monitor and later after November will purchase 3D kit. Previously I thought for ASUS or Samsung S23A700D (Though samsung is in good budget which is near 18K to 20K) but after spending a week on reading reviews and issues I decided not to go with it. If you have any other suggestions it would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Thank you for your suggestions. But upgrading all at once will not fit in my budget as I am a salaried employee so upgrading will be done partially. As an when I will buy GPU a high powered PSU (SMPS) will be necessary as my current PSU will not have enough power to handle it. That is what I meant, instead of just focussing on getting a 3D capable set-up it would be better if you use the funds to comprehensively upgrade the system for a wider repertoire of tasks. Also, getting a 3D capable system is not just limited to your monitor + 3D Kit, your graphics sub-system would have to be hardy enough to perform @80 fps stably in all games for the experience to be truly worth it. This would mean investing ~40,000/- -->50,000/- there itself which skews the balance further. If you have any other suggestions it would be helpful. My suggestion to you would be to go for an IPS panel based monitor for better colour accuracy and wider viewing angles. Also, these monitors would be slightly cheaper in ~13,000/- -->18,000/- range. You can get mid-range hardware and enjoy the performance without having to break the bank. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow storm Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I would suggest change your psu ,get a gtx 770 , forget the 3d stuff for now its not worth it ,i started a topic regarding 3d gaming but it seems 3d feature still has a lot of ways to go its not very good .if you want a big screen i suggest instead buying a monitor ,you could use your tv .I use my tv as a monitor (40 inch screen),its pretty decent .btw i am not sure if your mobo will support a gtx 770 you should check the compatibility . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 That is what I meant, instead of just focussing on getting a 3D capable set-up it would be better if you use the funds to comprehensively upgrade the system for a wider repertoire of tasks. Also, getting a 3D capable system is not just limited to your monitor + 3D Kit, your graphics sub-system would have to be hardy enough to perform @80 fps stably in all games for the experience to be truly worth it. This would mean investing ~40,000/- -->50,000/- there itself which skews the balance further. Yes, that is what I mentioned earlier that I would be upgrading my system slowly (meaning buying components 1 by 1 every 3 - 4 months), so there should be no issues. My suggestion to you would be to go for an IPS panel based monitor for better colour accuracy and wider viewing angles. Also, these monitors would be slightly cheaper in ~13,000/- -->18,000/- range. You can get mid-range hardware and enjoy the performance without having to break the bank. IPS panel for gaming will be no good. Although IPS panels are way good then TN panels for viewing angles and colour reproduction, but in my case I alone will be using the monitor. I would suggest change your psu ,get a gtx 770 , forget the 3d stuff for now its not worth it ,i started a topic regarding 3d gaming but it seems 3d feature still has a lot of ways to go its not very good .if you want a big screen i suggest instead buying a monitor ,you could use your tv .I use my tv as a monitor (40 inch screen),its pretty decent .btw i am not sure if your mobo will support a gtx 770 you should check the compatibility . Shadow Storm :: As mentioned in my above reply, definitely I would be upgrading PSU + GPU and yes there is upcoming virtual reality head-mounted display technology. It is being developed by Oculus VR & developer kits are in the process of being shipped out. More on this at wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yes, that is what I mentioned earlier that I would be upgrading my system slowly (meaning buying components 1 by 1 every 3 - 4 months), so there should be no issues. I got that point of your argument although 3D in gaming is still not worth the money you pony up for it. If you were to appropriation your current budget for a good monitor, it will set you back by ~20,000/- and with the remaining money you can get a new modular SMPS. IPS panel for gaming will be no good. Although IPS panels are way good then TN panels for viewing angles and colour reproduction, but in my case I alone will be using the monitor. Who says that an IPS panel is wasted on gaming. Even if you are alone, the performance and colour accuracy itself is worth the slight premium, also unlike 3D monitor you will not need to spend a whole lot of money on a very expensive graphic card. Shadow Storm :: As mentioned in my above reply, definitely I would be upgrading PSU + GPU and yes there is upcoming virtual reality head-mounted display technology. It is being developed by Oculus VR & developer kits are in the process of being shipped out. More on this at wiki Helmet mounted display system (which is what the Oculus Rift is) have been in military usage for over two decades now so the technology is just being adopted for the same. Also, currently the display resolution is less than 640 x480 so $300 for a BETA system is a little to steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I got that point of your argument although 3D in gaming is still not worth the money you pony up for it. If you were to appropriation your current budget for a good monitor, it will set you back by ~20,000/- and with the remaining money you can get a new modular SMPS. Who says that an IPS panel is wasted on gaming. Even if you are alone, the performance and colour accuracy itself is worth the slight premium, also unlike 3D monitor you will not need to spend a whole lot of money on a very expensive graphic card. Alpha17 :: Thank you for your explanations and suggestions on it so what components do you suggest / recommend me for upgrading my rig for all latest games + full HD movies along with estimate budget the price or each component. Helmet mounted display system (which is what the Oculus Rift is) have been in military usage for over two decades now so the technology is just being adopted for the same. Also, currently the display resolution is less than 640 x480 so $300 for a BETA system is a little to steep. Off topic :: I was not aware of this that is was being used from past 2 decades any way thank you for the information and as per wiki the Developer kit resolution : 1280×800 (640×800 per eye), Consumer version: 1920×1080 . (Lets wait and watch for official release). If this goes successful will definitely buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow storm Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 i wouldn't know about gaming monitors honestly speaking coz i have never tried any just use my tv as a monitor (but from the way i have heard its better than tv's,dunno how much they differ).i will tell you about my setup ,see if it helps you in deciding . Motherboard-GA-H61M-D2-B3 GPU-Zotac gtx 670Cpu- i5 2400Ram -8gb Psu- CM gx 750Display-sony 40hx750 btw i tried the 3d setup with tridef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Alpha17 :: Thank you for your explanations and suggestions on it so what components do you suggest / recommend me for upgrading my rig for all latest games + full HD movies along with estimate budget the price or each component. If I were in your boots, following is what I would get (monitor), DELL Ultrasharp U2312M DELL Ultrasharp U2412M ASUS PA238Q Apart from that, look at the following SMPS, Seasonic S12II 520W Seasonic M12II 650W Finally, for the processor and motherboard, Intel Core i5 4670 (non-k) GIGABYTE B85M-D3H For graphic card, I would suggest you wait till AMD releases its new cards in the later part of this year. Let me know if you are looking to over-clock. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 For graphic card, I would suggest you wait till AMD releases its new cards in the later part of this year. Let me know if you are looking to over-clock. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Thank you for your suggestions and yes I would be looking to OC the system and Nvidia GPU prefered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Thank you for your suggestions and yes I would be looking to OC the system and Nvidia GPU prefered. If you plan to over-clock your PC, we need to change the motherboard and CPU to the following, Intel Core i5 4670k ASUS Z87-PRO / Z87-GRYPHON To go along with this, we would need a decent CPU cooler, Cooler Master Hyper T4 (minimum) Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Thermalright Silver Arrow Next generation nVidia GPU's will not release before Q2 next year and AMD is releasing its next line of cards around November this year itself, so you might want to rethink that part of your purchase. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzzz Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Once again thank you. As the Nvidia will be releasing it in next year Q2, so its better to wait as there is no hard and fast for me to upgrade in meantime I will gather some more money in bank . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow storm Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 btw since there is this discussion going on , i got a few questions , if i decide to run my gtx 670 in sli config will that future proof it for next 4 years (i know you cant predict or can make a rig future proof)my main question is how well the upcoming games run.If i do decide to run the sli config i will need to change the motherboard ,do i have to change my psu?(cooler master hx 750).what type of cooling would i need for the system .Would greatly appreciate it if any one can tell me how much would the upgrade cost me with price of each component . thanks a ton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Post the same query, here or here. In any one thread is enough, don't need the same query being spammed. Please don't hijack someone else's private thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow storm Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Post the same query, here or here. In any one thread is enough, don't need the same query being spammed. Please don't hijack someone else's private thread. cool and apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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