Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 This time this seems to be going out of hand. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Religion has got nothing to do with this If there was no religion ppl would have used cast,colour,region to advantage themselves in political war It's about the mindset Something that's long gone in US India is almost there if ppl understand the motive behind it collectively I mean the same thing for caste as well. Not blaming the religion itself. Obviously, it is the people that do wrong. Different religion and caste have done more harm then good. It is people's fault but you get what i am saying. It is better they were not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Who knows Maybe they were created for ancient political & popular advantage to begin with Politics is older then you can imagin Yeah. They are very old. People need to understand that all those rituals and caste very made in the old times keeping situations of the old in mind and people don't have to adhere to them anymore or take them that seriously anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Take example of Army, Britishers did the classification of races and determined the fighter ones. Today, our regiments are named after these races. This is not wrong, this has some scientific base for sure. Don't want to sound racist, but american blacks have lowest IQ in the world, followed by I think Arabs. Same with them mascular power, think Indian can ever excel in sports like Rugby? Its not Just training but the genepool that makes the difference. So from your race to your forefathers' living place to what they did and what they ate and whom they screw with...all that comes to play. I believe that our forefathers had something similar in mind when they came with Varna vyavastha. It got twisted and the reason is lost with....that's another story. Just like Royals to preserve their blood....gotten into incestry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 even if there has to be one, there was only one! bit redundant don't you think /grammarnaziforaday and yep, staunch atheist here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Take example of Army, Britishers did the classification of races and determined the fighter ones. Today, our regiments are named after these races. This is not wrong, this has some scientific base for sure. Don't want to sound racist, but american blacks have lowest IQ in the world, followed by I think Arabs. Same with them mascular power, think Indian can ever excel in sports like Rugby? Its not Just training but the genepool that makes the difference. So from your race to your forefathers' living place to what they did and what they ate and whom they screw with...all that comes to play. I believe that our forefathers had something similar in mind when they came with Varna vyavastha. It got twisted and the reason is lost with....that's another story. Just like Royals to preserve their blood....gotten into incestry. …. Please post the the source for the IQ bit. and remember, IQ means nothing, literally nothing after a certain level (level showing that there is no medical retardness). It is all about hard work and effort. this is coming from a guy with perpetrated IQ in 140s but average academic performance due to slack and sloth. As for varna, make no mistake about it, It was solely done to make certain section of society subservient and then to exploit them. It is a sh*t system. I don't know why Brits named our army on races, maybe it sounded fancy (it does) but a lot of aura regarding 'warrior race' is embellished. Particularly the "Rajputana". For all their badass-ness, they were the perennial whipping boys for the central asian invaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 bit redundant don't you think /grammarnaziforaday and yep, staunch atheist here. Arghh.. true But you got the point.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Take example of Army, Britishers did the classification of races and determined the fighter ones. Today, our regiments are named after these races. This is not wrong, this has some scientific base for sure. Don't want to sound racist, but american blacks have lowest IQ in the world, followed by I think Arabs. Same with them mascular power, think Indian can ever excel in sports like Rugby? Its not Just training but the genepool that makes the difference. So from your race to your forefathers' living place to what they did and what they ate and whom they screw with...all that comes to play. I believe that our forefathers had something similar in mind when they came with Varna vyavastha. It got twisted and the reason is lost with....that's another story. Just like Royals to preserve their blood....gotten into incestry. But you just did. I'm sure there are other ways (words) to get your point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I don't know why Brits named our army on races, maybe it sounded fancy (it does) but a lot of aura regarding 'warrior race' is embellished. Particularly the "Rajputana". For all their badass-ness, they were the perennial whipping boys for the central asian invaders Yeah! But there are storied records of their fights against these invaders. Same with the Maratha's, the Sikh's, Gurkha's and Pathan's. Most of these classes had fights with the nascent British East India company and save for the terrible Indian command structures and officer cadre the fighting men were deemed to be made of sterner stuff than most European conscript armies. Also, Udham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Take example of Army, Britishers did the classification of races and determined the fighter ones. Today, our regiments are named after these races. This is not wrong, this has some scientific base for sure. Don't want to sound racist, but american blacks have lowest IQ in the world, followed by I think Arabs. Same with them mascular power, think Indian can ever excel in sports like Rugby? Its not Just training but the genepool that makes the difference. So from your race to your forefathers' living place to what they did and what they ate and whom they screw with...all that comes to play. I believe that our forefathers had something similar in mind when they came with Varna vyavastha. It got twisted and the reason is lost with....that's another story. Just like Royals to preserve their blood....gotten into incestry. What the? Now where did you read that. Let me guess, facebook? Its not genetic at all. Either you are completly a retard ( don't know what it is called, half minded maybe) or you are fine from the genes. The guys who claim that others are born intelligent are idiots who make excuses. Yes, there are people who don't understand science or any other subject or studying but that doesn't mean they are retard. They have equal minds! If Black Americans and Arabians are being fooled by someone (I don't know where did you read that that) than they are themselves to blame and not their genes and parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 But you just did. I'm sure there are other ways (words) to get your point across. oh i missed that. tbh, any monologue starting with "Dont want to sound racist/sexist/casteist etc.." is always, ALWAYS that Honestly, as far as the IQ-genetic idea goes, even if it is from a reputed journal, one has to be cognizant enough, if not intelligent, to understand that what it shows is Correlation, not Causation. If blacks (allegedly) have been shown to have lower iq, it is not because of their genetic makeup, it is because of the fact that the literacy levels among blacks is lower than other races. I am sure people can figure out for themselves why it is that (hint: see oscar winning movie of this year). Another example to illustrate my point. Suppose i take 100 people from a rural community of a poor eastern european nation, all proper caucasians and 100 black undergrads from a prominent African university, say Nigeria (random digression- Nigerian doctors are amongst the most respected professionals in that field, globally) and take their IQ. Any guesses as to which bunch will get higher score ? ------------------------------ @ Alpha Yeah! But there are storied records of their fights against these invaders. Sure there is, but my point is that the revered "rajputana" warrior race is anything but that. The way they were soundly owned by ruthless Central Asian invaders on horsebacks is beyond funny. The rajput king used to travel with his entourage, many wives; while the muslim invaders from C. Asia had small, efficient, lean fighting unit. It was a blinding whiplash of a motion and LOL goes the desi king Why i am mentioning this is that unlike the fight with Brits, these skirmishes never had any mis-match in equipment, what it however HAD, was a much much superior fighting unit (c. asians) against an embellished and often (but not always) needlessly romanticized warrior clan in rajputs. _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 ^ Lol? I think you are the one who reads everything at Facebook that's why you think everyone is doing that. Intelligence and certain physical skills are genetically transferred. Think about Sherpas and Gurakhas why they make great climbers? It came with generations after generations doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 But you just did. I'm sure there are other ways (words) to get your point across. Please tell me how I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Please tell me how I did. Nemo already did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Think about Sherpas and Gurakhas why they make great climbers? It came with generations after generations doing that. that is geography, rather proximity to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 No he did not. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Nemo already did. No he did not. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 that is geography, rather proximity to it. It's not just that. Is this so unacceptable for you that acquired knowledge can get genetically transferred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 If blacks (allegedly) have been shown to have lower iq, it is not because of their genetic makeup, it is because of the fact that the literacy levels among blacks is lower than other races. I am sure people can figure out for themselves why it is that (hint: see oscar winning movie of this year). Please do study on this a little more.There are lot of researches done on this subjext . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 No he did not. See below quote. tbh, any monologue starting with "Dont want to sound racist/sexist/casteist etc.." is always, ALWAYS that E.g. If I say to someone "Please don't mind, but I think you are an idiot" , then I cannot really expect the person to not mind. It is not what one speaks, but what is heard that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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