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They kind of invented this whole democracy thing. Just saying.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah greeks did give populist rise and recognition to democracy but that was Perfunctory at best. Only citizens could vote and even then only males.

 

An ideology that somehow would find right at home in right wing anywhere :lol:

 

edit: Oh and by citizens i mean the ancient definition of a Citizen, not the current one.

 

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Voting update till 1 pm at Mumbai.

Mumbai North: 29.14%

Mumbai North West: 25.7%

Mumbai North East: 26.5%

Mumbai North Central: 24%

Poor.

Any IVG user from Mumbai voted?

 

 

Nope, no name in voter list. Apparently having a passport, driving license, sailing license, pan card, voter card and ration card isn't enough to qualify you as citizen of India. If you're not in The List you're disqualified.

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Yeah, not trying to be condescending, but rules are rules. The voter list is the "thing" for the lack of a better word, that makes the individual eligible to give vote. The IDs are for identification- one can use any of the listed IDs including the voter card. There is a cross check done and name from the list is then marked off.

 

It is a common misconception that just by having the voter ID one is eligible to vote, It is the listed name via the voter ID- that is what gives the right to vote. Technically.

 

People are encouraged to check their name weeks before the date of voting in their constituency and bring any discrepancy to notice.

 

Sure, the onus is on the authorities to ensure that no eligible name misses the electoral roll, but scope, size, complexities etc makes it not 100% perfect.

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How about some self policing first? Sorry. Couldn't resist when I saw those two posts back to back. :P

 

Purported. That's the word you may have been looking for. Also missing an 'a' before the word. Might want to take that test again. High IQ is characterized by a superior vocabulary and grammar which are purportedly missing here.

 

 

 

Yeah missed in spelling there and bumped the first autocorrect in haste. I know tons of words but am poor in spellings.

 

High IQ does take into account vocab plus a lot more, most notably the ability to think and reason, over any other measure. Have you ever taken any ? The Test i mean, or is it just what you have gathered from looking at the depiction of spelling B and mensa prodigies on TV ? I am asking this because I have been needlessly subjected to a bunch of IQ and rorschach tests over time since middle school and know a lot what goes in there. And as i mentioned, not a fan of connecting IQ with results. Sure it is intelligence but lack of effort and concentration derails it, as it so happened in my earlier post.

 

 

Edit :- please come up with better arguments than missing articles, if we are to digress.

 

 

Edit 2 :- one more thing that just dawned- if Vocab and grammar are such glaring indications of IQ, what is your take on the debate of "IQ and genes" that we have here ? Since not all the world's population has English as the first language, and we are, effectively identifying, creating and debating on, the schism that IQ creates in world population, how can one measure IQ of people who do not know english ? since, you know.. 'Language and ability to adequately place prepositions and articles' is apparently the most prominent, throbbing pillar of IQ.

 

 

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That is correct, unless nemo can claim his sources most psychologists believe its a factor of both.

 

 

Psychology =/= science

 

This theory will have more credibility if there were Medical doctors conducting research and the community coming on to a definitive conclusion. Up till then it is a dart game while being blindfolded.

 

If the genes were such an important factor (as Udham mentioned- seriously, people, read the origin of the debate) then there would not be a black scientist rising to top in a predominantly white community.

 

 

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Education and Environmental factors matter more than genes, provided the child born is not suffering from any debilitating mental illness. Again, i would like you to check out the context of the debate. Udham, as he is a supporter of segregation policies, mentioned the "less intelligent gene" as a basis for his stance that certain races or communities are necessarily supposed to be treated or subjected to, in a certain manner.

 

So yes, as a opposition to that, it is quite evident that this is not true. There are more than a fair number of dumb whites (a casual rummage through "america's funniest home videos" will show enough examples) as there are smart blacks in the world.

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Then you are biasing your study again. You have to pick people from a largely similar socio economic conditions, make sure their parents are of a similar nature and their growth has been largely the same. Which is VERY hard to do in the real world.

 

 

But if genes are the IN factor then the socio economic conditions should not matter.. innit ?

The whole debate was that intelligence is something embedded in your dna.

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Udham, as he is a supporter of segregation policies, mentioned the "less intelligent gene" as a basis for his stance that certain races or communities are necessarily supposed to be treated or subjected to, in a certain manner.

 

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These are cheap lanchans mate.

Laters when I have a PC.

 

And meanwhile

Read a bit of Manusmriti:

http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-shudras/

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These are cheap lanchans mate.

Laters when I have a PC.

 

And meanwhile

Read a bit of Manusmriti:

 

 

 

cheap accusations ?? really ? Ok mate, give your views- 3 words, "Biharis in mumbai".. get, set.. GO !

 

I am not hating on you, nor am i abusing you in this regards. You have your Pov, and i have mine- I have a pretty clear idea that any division on the basis of race, caste, gender or creed and religion is harmful and is an example of a mentally and ideologically backward society.

 

also as far as manu smriti is concerned, i think my views are pretty evident in this regards. Hate it, consider it abhorrent and a disgrace of the Indian culture, such as it is, that we are told to be proud of. One may have the argument that initially the segregation was done 'not' in a straight jacket manner and people were free to move across varnas vertically if they had shown the ability to do so, but in practice none of that is there.

 

It has always been a means to, and of, oppress and suppression, respectively.

 

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